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village_idiot
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 01 2012 23:44 village_idiot wrote: I bet Madara will just switch his fighting strategy. Madara has nothing to do with Tobi, other than the fact they know each other. At the moment Madara is busy making the Gokage look like idiots. | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On August 01 2012 23:42 StorkHwaiting wrote: ^That sounds like a satisfactory way to whoop this annoying elusive dude once and for all. Well even if they do manage to land a fatal hit can't he just use Izanagi? By then the Gedo Mazo should be ready. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On August 01 2012 19:28 FetTerBender wrote: I am a little confused. So there are different dimensions, but only 1 different for all users of the same "style"? Wait how did everyone seem to conclude this? Maybe I read a different translation but I interpreted it as Kakashi using kamui first on Naruto's rasengan tricking Tobi into thinking that it was he who sent it to another dimension. Then Kakashi sends it back and it hits Tobi. | ||
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 01 2012 23:51 Zane wrote: Well even if they do manage to land a fatal hit can't he just use Izanagi? By then the Gedo Mazo should be ready. If he uses Izanagi, then his precious "Obito sharingan" is gone, along with the S/T ability it has. | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On August 01 2012 23:53 Wrecken wrote: If he uses Izanagi, then his precious "Obito sharingan" is gone, along with the S/T ability it has. That's true, but once the 10 tails completes he shouldn't need it. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 01 2012 23:51 Zane wrote: Well even if they do manage to land a fatal hit can't he just use Izanagi? By then the Gedo Mazo should be ready. he only has one sharingan left, if he does uise Izanagi then he has to leave to get a new eye, and judging by Sasuke those arent inplant and start firing away hed need time for the new eye to be ready before he can cast Tsukyomi and thats time for them to destroy 10 tails also remember that Kakashis ability isnt instant, the bigger the thing he absorbs the more time so even if they do fire 2 Bijuudamas at him its possible th etime it would take him to absorb is too much and Tobi would escape plus they have no way to force him to stay in the same spot while they cast the Bijuudama to make the perfect pincer attack | ||
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Names
Canada328 Posts
On August 01 2012 23:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Wait how did everyone seem to conclude this? Maybe I read another translation but I interpreted it as Kakashi using kamui first on Naruto's rasengan tricking Tobi into thinking that it was he who sent it to another dimension. Then Kakashi sends it back and it hits Tobi. I don't think tobi sends things to the other dimension, I think he just dodges them by going there himself. But the second point you make is sharp. They do talk about bringing things back at the end of the chapter, that might be it too. Though they don't talk about how he brought the kunai back, if he ever did. | ||
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 01 2012 23:55 Forikorder wrote: he only has one sharingan left, if he does uise Izanagi then he has to leave to get a new eye, and judging by Sasuke those arent inplant and start firing away hed need time for the new eye to be ready before he can cast Tsukyomi and thats time for them to destroy 10 tails also remember that Kakashis ability isnt instant, the bigger the thing he absorbs the more time so even if they do fire 2 Bijuudamas at him its possible th etime it would take him to absorb is too much and Tobi would escape plus they have no way to force him to stay in the same spot while they cast the Bijuudama to make the perfect pincer attack There is a theory that the speed Kakashi can warp is based on how much chakra he puts into it. If he puts a ton, then he can warp anything away almost instantly, but would leave him very very weak. So insteat, he put less chakra into kamui on the Gedo Maza, because even if it failed, he would still have energy left to fight. Thats why he was greatly fatigued after instantly warping away sasukes huge Susanno arrow. | ||
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 01 2012 23:56 Names wrote: I don't think tobi sends things to the other dimension, I think he just dodges them by going there himself. But the second point you make is sharp. They do talk about bringing things back at the end of the chapter, that might be it too. Though they don't talk about how he brought the kunai back, if he ever did. Yes, you are correct, Tobi's body goes to the same dimmension as whatever is warped by Kamui. So if something is warped right infront of Tobi in real time and he also becomes intangible, then both his body and whatever Kakashi warps, will appear parrallel to each other in the seperate dimmension. Kakashi has effectively countered Tobi's S/T. | ||
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nonsequitur
384 Posts
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 02 2012 00:01 nonsequitur wrote: Kakashi's chakra should be almost gone by now right? IIRC he can only use Kamui 2 times? Kishimoto is a horrible horrible writer, and is just using plot right now, so essentially Kakashi has unlimted chakra, the same goes for Gai who has been using the 6th gate a lot this fight. | ||
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 02 2012 00:00 Wrecken wrote: Yes, you are correct, Tobi's body goes to the same dimmension as whatever is warped by Kamui. So if something is warped right infront of Tobi in real time and he also becomes intangible, then both his body and whatever Kakashi warps, will appear parrallel to each other in the seperate dimmension. Kakashi has effectively countered Tobi's S/T. no he hasnt, Kakashi cant warp Gai or Naruto only the attacks they make so if he can figure out waht Kakashi warps then he jsut has to make himself tangible at that moment so it wont hit him, Kakashi has no way of telling when Tobi is tangible but Tobi can tell if something disapears plus lets say Kakashi warped Narutos Rasengan and Tobi notices he could of then absorbed Gai or Naruto since the attack was gone | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 02 2012 00:40 Forikorder wrote: no he hasnt, Kakashi cant warp Gai or Naruto only the attacks they make so if he can figure out waht Kakashi warps then he jsut has to make himself tangible at that moment so it wont hit him, Kakashi has no way of telling when Tobi is tangible but Tobi can tell if something disapears plus lets say Kakashi warped Narutos Rasengan and Tobi notices he could of then absorbed Gai or Naruto since the attack was gone I always thought that was kind of bs. Why does Tobi's image still appear if he's in another dimension? Seems more like just lazy visualization by Kishi. If he's in a completely different dimension then how is it possible for them to still see him? Then again, sometimes he does get sucked in and completely disappear. Yet other times he can materialize just parts of himself? How does that work? Blah. I'm not a fan of that partial dimensional stuff. WHen Kakashi does it to other people their limb gets torn off. That makes some sense to me. Or it's a complete move like Frog Dimension Summoning etc. This partial stuff is really iffy to me. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 02 2012 00:46 StorkHwaiting wrote: I always thought that was kind of bs. Why does Tobi's image still appear if he's in another dimension? Seems more like just lazy visualization by Kishi. If he's in a completely different dimension then how is it possible for them to still see him? Then again, sometimes he does get sucked in and completely disappear. Yet other times he can materialize just parts of himself? How does that work? Blah. I'm not a fan of that partial dimensional stuff. WHen Kakashi does it to other people their limb gets torn off. That makes some sense to me. Or it's a complete move like Frog Dimension Summoning etc. This partial stuff is really iffy to me. ya its pretty confusing, somehow he moves his body to that other dimension in a way that he is in that dimension but in a way that hes not completely in that dimension so he can still see things in the regular dimension and people can still see him so he moves into it without completely moving into it | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Naruto make clone Kakashi warp clone to other dimension Beat shit out of Tobi in both dimensions GG. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 02 2012 01:21 ticklishmusic wrote: So I haz idea Naruto make clone Kakashi warp clone to other dimension Beat shit out of Tobi in both dimensions GG. i dunno if something like that would really be possible plus the clone isnt very durable so Tobi would jsut kill the clone | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 02 2012 01:29 Forikorder wrote: i dunno if something like that would really be possible plus the clone isnt very durable so Tobi would jsut kill the clone Interesting idea though. Why not just send the real Naruto to the other dimension? And the rest of the team can beat up Tobi on this side. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On August 02 2012 01:29 Forikorder wrote: i dunno if something like that would really be possible plus the clone isnt very durable so Tobi would jsut kill the clone Why not? Just uses Kamui and send Nine-tailed mode Naruto clone to the other dimension and beat up Tobi. Since Kakashi did the same with Rasengan,why not do it with a clone? | ||
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