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On August 02 2012 01:29 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 01:21 ticklishmusic wrote: So I haz idea
Naruto make clone
Kakashi warp clone to other dimension
Beat shit out of Tobi in both dimensions
GG. i dunno if something like that would really be possible plus the clone isnt very durable so Tobi would jsut kill the clone
Naruto's clones are kage-level.. xD
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Naruto's clones kind of wiped out half the white zetsu army.
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On August 02 2012 01:31 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 01:29 Forikorder wrote:On August 02 2012 01:21 ticklishmusic wrote: So I haz idea
Naruto make clone
Kakashi warp clone to other dimension
Beat shit out of Tobi in both dimensions
GG. i dunno if something like that would really be possible plus the clone isnt very durable so Tobi would jsut kill the clone Interesting idea though. Why not just send the real Naruto to the other dimension? And the rest of the team can beat up Tobi on this side.
Because Tobi can trap Naruto in his so called " dimension ". He even claimed no one can break out of it.
He send Sasuke and Karin to his dimension during the Kage meeting arc. Sasuke himself also could not break out of that dimension. http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v51/c475/15.html
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On August 02 2012 01:36 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 01:29 Forikorder wrote:On August 02 2012 01:21 ticklishmusic wrote: So I haz idea
Naruto make clone
Kakashi warp clone to other dimension
Beat shit out of Tobi in both dimensions
GG. i dunno if something like that would really be possible plus the clone isnt very durable so Tobi would jsut kill the clone Why not? Just uses Kamui and send Nine-tailed mode Naruto clone to the other dimension and beat up Tobi. Since Kakashi did the same with Rasengan,why not do it with a clone? because A) Kamui is designed to kill not transport so who can say theyll really survive it B) Naruto would ahve no way to get BACK C) theres no way to know its even possible to survive in taht dimension for extended periods of time (like say more then 5 minutes) D) then Tobi could just not go transparent then Naruto is completely removed from the fight E) he could just focus completely on a one on one with Naruto F) it wouldnt really change all that much except Naruto could only hit him while hes dodging a different attack
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On August 02 2012 01:43 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 01:36 FakeDeath wrote:On August 02 2012 01:29 Forikorder wrote:On August 02 2012 01:21 ticklishmusic wrote: So I haz idea
Naruto make clone
Kakashi warp clone to other dimension
Beat shit out of Tobi in both dimensions
GG. i dunno if something like that would really be possible plus the clone isnt very durable so Tobi would jsut kill the clone Why not? Just uses Kamui and send Nine-tailed mode Naruto clone to the other dimension and beat up Tobi. Since Kakashi did the same with Rasengan,why not do it with a clone? because A) Kamui is designed to kill not transport so who can say theyll really survive it B) Naruto would ahve no way to get BACK C) theres no way to know its even possible to survive in taht dimension for extended periods of time (like say more then 5 minutes) D) then Tobi could just not go transparent then Naruto is completely removed from the fight E) he could just focus completely on a one on one with Naruto F) it wouldnt really change all that much except Naruto could only hit him while hes dodging a different attack
A) Kamui is not designed to kill my friend LOL.Don't spout that nonsense.Kamui allows one to transfer anything to another dimension.Basically, you transfer someone or something into another dimension. B) Its' a clone.Just chakra.Not himself.His nine-tailed mode clone is Kage-level lol. C) How would you know??http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v51/c475/15.html Sasuke was there.Plus,its a clone so your point don't make any sense. D)If Tobi stop phasing, he would get whacked in the face by Gai,Kakashi and Naruto Your E and F don't make any sense.
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On August 02 2012 00:40 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 00:00 Wrecken wrote:On August 01 2012 23:56 Names wrote:On August 01 2012 23:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On August 01 2012 19:28 FetTerBender wrote: I am a little confused. So there are different dimensions, but only 1 different for all users of the same "style"? Wait how did everyone seem to conclude this? Maybe I read another translation but I interpreted it as Kakashi using kamui first on Naruto's rasengan tricking Tobi into thinking that it was he who sent it to another dimension. Then Kakashi sends it back and it hits Tobi. I don't think tobi sends things to the other dimension, I think he just dodges them by going there himself. But the second point you make is sharp. They do talk about bringing things back at the end of the chapter, that might be it too. Though they don't talk about how he brought the kunai back, if he ever did. Yes, you are correct, Tobi's body goes to the same dimmension as whatever is warped by Kamui. So if something is warped right infront of Tobi in real time and he also becomes intangible, then both his body and whatever Kakashi warps, will appear parrallel to each other in the seperate dimmension. Kakashi has effectively countered Tobi's S/T. no he hasnt, Kakashi cant warp Gai or Naruto only the attacks they make so if he can figure out waht Kakashi warps then he jsut has to make himself tangible at that moment so it wont hit him, Kakashi has no way of telling when Tobi is tangible but Tobi can tell if something disapears plus lets say Kakashi warped Narutos Rasengan and Tobi notices he could of then absorbed Gai or Naruto since the attack was gone You don't get it. 1. Kakashi can warp anything he wants, if he had the chakra, he could warp the whole planet into another dimension
2. When they try another team attack, if Tobi becomes intangible when Kakashi warps an attack away, he is screwed.
3. IF they attack and Kakashi warps an attack away and Tobi stays tangible, he is dead to anyones attack regardless.
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On August 02 2012 01:42 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 01:31 StorkHwaiting wrote:On August 02 2012 01:29 Forikorder wrote:On August 02 2012 01:21 ticklishmusic wrote: So I haz idea
Naruto make clone
Kakashi warp clone to other dimension
Beat shit out of Tobi in both dimensions
GG. i dunno if something like that would really be possible plus the clone isnt very durable so Tobi would jsut kill the clone Interesting idea though. Why not just send the real Naruto to the other dimension? And the rest of the team can beat up Tobi on this side. Because Tobi can trap Naruto in his so called " dimension ". He even claimed no one can break out of it. He send Sasuke and Karin to his dimension during the Kage meeting arc. Sasuke himself also could not break out of that dimension. http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v51/c475/15.html
Even if it was Kakashi who sent Naruto though? I think it's still up in the air who has most control over that alternate dimension. Yes, Tobi is the only one we've seen use it up to now, but that's because Kakashi never went to the other side. There's nothing to say that Tobi has supreme authority in that dimension is there?
And ofc Tobi will claim things like that lol. He's not gonna trap someone there and then tell them "Hey, there's lots of ways to break out of here! Try to find one!"
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On August 02 2012 01:51 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 01:43 Forikorder wrote:On August 02 2012 01:36 FakeDeath wrote:On August 02 2012 01:29 Forikorder wrote:On August 02 2012 01:21 ticklishmusic wrote: So I haz idea
Naruto make clone
Kakashi warp clone to other dimension
Beat shit out of Tobi in both dimensions
GG. i dunno if something like that would really be possible plus the clone isnt very durable so Tobi would jsut kill the clone Why not? Just uses Kamui and send Nine-tailed mode Naruto clone to the other dimension and beat up Tobi. Since Kakashi did the same with Rasengan,why not do it with a clone? because A) Kamui is designed to kill not transport so who can say theyll really survive it B) Naruto would ahve no way to get BACK C) theres no way to know its even possible to survive in taht dimension for extended periods of time (like say more then 5 minutes) D) then Tobi could just not go transparent then Naruto is completely removed from the fight E) he could just focus completely on a one on one with Naruto F) it wouldnt really change all that much except Naruto could only hit him while hes dodging a different attack A) Kamui is not designed to kill my friend LOL.Don't spout that nonsense.Kamui allows one to transfer anything to another dimension.Basically, you transfer someone or something into another dimension. B) Its' a clone.Just chakra.Not himself.His nine-tailed mode clone is Kage-level lol. C) How would you know??http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v51/c475/15.html Sasuke was there.Plus,its a clone so your point don't make any sense. D)If Tobi stop phasing, he would get whacked in the face by Gai,Kakashi and Naruto Your E and F don't make any sense. While that would work, however, Tobi will become tangible the instant naruto clone attacks him in other dimmension, thus avoiding all damage.
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A) Kamui is not designed to kill my friend LOL.Don't spout that nonsense.Kamui allows one to transfer anything to another dimension.Basically, you transfer someone or something into another dimension. its probably like that instant transfer techinque they used to move the RAikage and Tsunade that a normal human couldnt survive
B) Its' a clone.Just chakra.Not himself.His nine-tailed mode clone is Kage-level lol.
which is why hes made so many this fight that have been owned
C) How would you know??http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v51/c475/15.html Sasuke was there.Plus,its a clone so your point don't make any sense.
the place Kamui sends them and the place Tobi has a secret base are definently not the same place
D)If Tobi stop phasing, he would get whacked in the face by Gai,Kakashi and Naruto
except you said Naruto was in the second space
2. When they try another team attack, if Tobi becomes intangible when Kakashi warps an attack away, he is screwed.
3. IF they attack and Kakashi warps an attack away and Tobi stays intangible, he is dead to anyones attack regardless.
gee unless be blocks one attack
going intangible isnt his only defense, he can physically block it or dodge it as well
if they pincer attack Tobi, and he warps one then Tobi can jsut block the other attack and be perfectly fine they have to use Kamui in a way thats not obvious at all and have him not even be aware of the attack they Kamui
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On August 02 2012 02:05 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +A) Kamui is not designed to kill my friend LOL.Don't spout that nonsense.Kamui allows one to transfer anything to another dimension.Basically, you transfer someone or something into another dimension. its probably like that instant transfer techinque they used to move the RAikage and Tsunade that a normal human couldnt survive Show nested quote +B) Its' a clone.Just chakra.Not himself.His nine-tailed mode clone is Kage-level lol. which is why hes made so many this fight that have been owned C) How would you know??http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v51/c475/15.html Sasuke was there.Plus,its a clone so your point don't make any sense. the place Kamui sends them and the place Tobi has a secret base are definently not the same place Show nested quote +D)If Tobi stop phasing, he would get whacked in the face by Gai,Kakashi and Naruto except you said Naruto was in the second space Show nested quote +2. When they try another team attack, if Tobi becomes intangible when Kakashi warps an attack away, he is screwed.
3. IF they attack and Kakashi warps an attack away and Tobi stays intangible, he is dead to anyones attack regardless. gee unless be blocks one attack going intangible isnt his only defense, he can physically block it or dodge it as well if they pincer attack Tobi, and he warps one then Tobi can jsut block the other attack and be perfectly fine they have to use Kamui in a way thats not obvious at all and have him not even be aware of the attack they Kamui This is Kishi we are talking about. He said a few weeks ago, that Tobi identity would be revealed in a "few weeks" and next week is another colored edition, so his identity may be revealed then. Kishi won't drag on this bout with Tobi for much longer. Even though his writing has gone to shit, he knows not to drag this fight along further. They will subdue Tobi soon, or atleast cause massive damage. Some asspull/talking will be done I am sure.
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On August 02 2012 02:09 Wrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 02:05 Forikorder wrote:A) Kamui is not designed to kill my friend LOL.Don't spout that nonsense.Kamui allows one to transfer anything to another dimension.Basically, you transfer someone or something into another dimension. its probably like that instant transfer techinque they used to move the RAikage and Tsunade that a normal human couldnt survive B) Its' a clone.Just chakra.Not himself.His nine-tailed mode clone is Kage-level lol. which is why hes made so many this fight that have been owned C) How would you know??http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v51/c475/15.html Sasuke was there.Plus,its a clone so your point don't make any sense. the place Kamui sends them and the place Tobi has a secret base are definently not the same place D)If Tobi stop phasing, he would get whacked in the face by Gai,Kakashi and Naruto except you said Naruto was in the second space 2. When they try another team attack, if Tobi becomes intangible when Kakashi warps an attack away, he is screwed.
3. IF they attack and Kakashi warps an attack away and Tobi stays intangible, he is dead to anyones attack regardless. gee unless be blocks one attack going intangible isnt his only defense, he can physically block it or dodge it as well if they pincer attack Tobi, and he warps one then Tobi can jsut block the other attack and be perfectly fine they have to use Kamui in a way thats not obvious at all and have him not even be aware of the attack they Kamui This is Kishi we are talking about. He said a few weeks ago, that Tobi identity would be revealed in a "few weeks" and next week is another colored edition, so his identity may be revealed then. Kishi won't drag on this bout with Tobi for much longer, even though his writing has gone to shit. They will subdue Tobi soon, or atleast cause massive damage. or jsut enough damage to destroy his mask or rip it off
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On August 02 2012 02:10 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 02:09 Wrecken wrote:On August 02 2012 02:05 Forikorder wrote:A) Kamui is not designed to kill my friend LOL.Don't spout that nonsense.Kamui allows one to transfer anything to another dimension.Basically, you transfer someone or something into another dimension. its probably like that instant transfer techinque they used to move the RAikage and Tsunade that a normal human couldnt survive B) Its' a clone.Just chakra.Not himself.His nine-tailed mode clone is Kage-level lol. which is why hes made so many this fight that have been owned C) How would you know??http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v51/c475/15.html Sasuke was there.Plus,its a clone so your point don't make any sense. the place Kamui sends them and the place Tobi has a secret base are definently not the same place D)If Tobi stop phasing, he would get whacked in the face by Gai,Kakashi and Naruto except you said Naruto was in the second space 2. When they try another team attack, if Tobi becomes intangible when Kakashi warps an attack away, he is screwed.
3. IF they attack and Kakashi warps an attack away and Tobi stays intangible, he is dead to anyones attack regardless. gee unless be blocks one attack going intangible isnt his only defense, he can physically block it or dodge it as well if they pincer attack Tobi, and he warps one then Tobi can jsut block the other attack and be perfectly fine they have to use Kamui in a way thats not obvious at all and have him not even be aware of the attack they Kamui This is Kishi we are talking about. He said a few weeks ago, that Tobi identity would be revealed in a "few weeks" and next week is another colored edition, so his identity may be revealed then. Kishi won't drag on this bout with Tobi for much longer, even though his writing has gone to shit. They will subdue Tobi soon, or atleast cause massive damage. or jsut enough damage to destroy his mask or rip it off That is probably what most likely will happen. At this point it is all but 100% confirmed that Tobi is using Obito's sharingan and possibly body, but as for who exactly he is, we may know by next week or by issue 600 at the very latest from Kishi's words.
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Actually the more I think about it... maybe Tobi is not Obito. Reading last few pages, wouldn't Obito know what his other eye would do, or atleast know it is linked with space dimension like his. Tobi says he thought kamui was a combination of 2 jutus, one that dematerializes and the other that makes its appear/disappear. Which then leads to maybe Tobi doesn't even have Obito's other eye and that these space dimension jutus just share alot of similiarities/dimension.
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On August 02 2012 03:51 TheBrunk wrote: Actually the more I think about it... maybe Tobi is not Obito. Reading last few pages, wouldn't Obito know what his other eye would do, or atleast know it is linked with space dimension like his. Tobi says he thought kamui was a combination of 2 jutus, one that dematerializes and the other that makes its appear/disappear. Which then leads to maybe Tobi doesn't even have Obito's other eye and that these space dimension jutus just share alot of similiarities/dimension. wasnt that Kakashi talking about Tobis technique?
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On August 02 2012 03:51 TheBrunk wrote: Actually the more I think about it... maybe Tobi is not Obito. Reading last few pages, wouldn't Obito know what his other eye would do, or atleast know it is linked with space dimension like his. Tobi says he thought kamui was a combination of 2 jutus, one that dematerializes and the other that makes its appear/disappear. Which then leads to maybe Tobi doesn't even have Obito's other eye and that these space dimension jutus just share alot of similiarities/dimension. That's Kakashi talking at that moment, not Tobi
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On August 02 2012 04:13 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 03:51 TheBrunk wrote: Actually the more I think about it... maybe Tobi is not Obito. Reading last few pages, wouldn't Obito know what his other eye would do, or atleast know it is linked with space dimension like his. Tobi says he thought kamui was a combination of 2 jutus, one that dematerializes and the other that makes its appear/disappear. Which then leads to maybe Tobi doesn't even have Obito's other eye and that these space dimension jutus just share alot of similiarities/dimension. wasnt that Kakashi talking about Tobis technique?
Ohh woops lol. I guess your right XD
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What do you guys think about tobi arm after the hit with rasengan? The arm looks like a normal arm, but in the fight against the 4th it was melting after he got hit
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On August 02 2012 05:26 DrunkenHomer wrote: What do you guys think about tobi arm after the hit with rasengan? The arm looks like a normal arm, but in the fight against the 4th it was melting after he got hit i dont think Naruto got a clean shot in
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Could Tobi somehow be Kakashi? From different dimension or something, there is many things that would somehow go with it, considering that they both use space travel and stuff, and i suppose both got there eyes differently? This is just somewhat of theory crafting but well i think it would be stupid to be Obito, as i am sure he is tied with Kakashi somehow!
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