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Naruto got boring a while ago
I'm missing the time when Jiraya was still one of the most powerful ninja unfortunately this manga sucks to much from power inflation.
God ... the S-Class Akatsuki ninjas each had only one fucking OP skill and it was more fun to discover their characters, but nowadays ... pffff .... Susanoo here, susanoo there ... even Amaterasu is a noob technique lol.
But well, I should have known it. In the first chapters, the shadow clone technique was even one of the forbidden Jounin-techniques, which in the Naruto stealing the scroll incident stirred up the whole village -_- . mehhhh ....
One Piece was/is/will be the best cause it stays true to itself and remains consistent ...
People actually like that one piece of shit? People have different tastes but you are missing something when you don't even give One Piece a try ... lol ,
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On May 30 2012 21:42 Ficetool wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 20:51 Killmouse wrote:On May 30 2012 20:48 SkelA wrote: Can we expect ultra superduper perfect susanoo from Sasuke next time ? i think u need rinnegan to use super duper perfect susanoo  What does it matter? Rinnegan evolves from Sharingan, so it's just a matter of time till Sasuke run around with Rinnegan as well
Sharingan evolved from Rinnegan.
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On May 31 2012 07:41 Pseudoku wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:42 Ficetool wrote:On May 30 2012 20:51 Killmouse wrote:On May 30 2012 20:48 SkelA wrote: Can we expect ultra superduper perfect susanoo from Sasuke next time ? i think u need rinnegan to use super duper perfect susanoo  What does it matter? Rinnegan evolves from Sharingan, so it's just a matter of time till Sasuke run around with Rinnegan as well Sharingan evolved from Rinnegan.
chap 560, by the end madara uses rinnegan and kabuto talks about how he gussed right when he thought that you could awake rinnegan after sharingan..
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On May 31 2012 06:38 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Naruto got boring a while ago I'm missing the time when Jiraya was still one of the most powerful ninja  unfortunately this manga sucks to much from power inflation. God ... the S-Class Akatsuki ninjas each had only one fucking OP skill and it was more fun to discover their characters, but nowadays ... pffff .... Susanoo here, susanoo there ... even Amaterasu is a noob technique lol. But well, I should have known it. In the first chapters, the shadow clone technique was even one of the forbidden Jounin-techniques, which in the Naruto stealing the scroll incident stirred up the whole village -_- . mehhhh .... One Piece was/is/will be the best cause it stays true to itself and remains consistent ... People have different tastes but you are missing something when you don't even give One Piece a try ... lol ,
1000% agree.
i loved kakashi at the beginning, because he was one of the most talented ninjas. he was powerful, but he was still so fucking afraid when he talked to oroshimaru, there still where classes between them.
now, kakashi got a whole lot stronger till back then. and what happened? he doesnt even matter at all because everything got so ridiculously OP, its totally retarded.
gosh i loved that manga sooo much till the 3rd hokage / oroshimaru fight, since then it got worse and worse. Now we have a fucking SSJ 8 Dragonball Fanmade story and Goku reaches the next SSJ stage 2 chapters from now.
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On May 31 2012 13:50 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 06:38 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Naruto got boring a while ago I'm missing the time when Jiraya was still one of the most powerful ninja  unfortunately this manga sucks to much from power inflation. God ... the S-Class Akatsuki ninjas each had only one fucking OP skill and it was more fun to discover their characters, but nowadays ... pffff .... Susanoo here, susanoo there ... even Amaterasu is a noob technique lol. But well, I should have known it. In the first chapters, the shadow clone technique was even one of the forbidden Jounin-techniques, which in the Naruto stealing the scroll incident stirred up the whole village -_- . mehhhh .... One Piece was/is/will be the best cause it stays true to itself and remains consistent ... People actually like that one piece of shit? People have different tastes but you are missing something when you don't even give One Piece a try ... lol , 1000% agree. i loved kakashi at the beginning, because he was one of the most talented ninjas. he was powerful, but he was still so fucking afraid when he talked to oroshimaru, there still where classes between them. now, kakashi got a whole lot stronger till back then. and what happened? he doesnt even matter at all because everything got so ridiculously OP, its totally retarded. gosh i loved that manga sooo much till the 3rd hokage / oroshimaru fight, since then it got worse and worse. Now we have a fucking SSJ 8 Dragonball Fanmade story and Goku reaches the next SSJ stage 2 chapters from now.
the next ssj stage would be ssj 9... oh wait, 9... 9-tails. wow, i just realized how many forms naruto has.
well kakashi is still badass i think. he can warp space time. to me thats like a super ultimate skill that makes him above anyone else.
lets say, kakashi vs anyone in the manga. warped into another universe. that is all. the only reason he couldn't recently cuz he wasnt full power.
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On May 31 2012 13:44 0kz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 07:41 Pseudoku wrote:On May 30 2012 21:42 Ficetool wrote:On May 30 2012 20:51 Killmouse wrote:On May 30 2012 20:48 SkelA wrote: Can we expect ultra superduper perfect susanoo from Sasuke next time ? i think u need rinnegan to use super duper perfect susanoo  What does it matter? Rinnegan evolves from Sharingan, so it's just a matter of time till Sasuke run around with Rinnegan as well Sharingan evolved from Rinnegan. chap 560, by the end madara uses rinnegan and kabuto talks about how he gussed right when he thought that you could awake rinnegan after sharingan..
Awake does not equal evolve. The Sage of the Six Paths had two sons, one with the eyes of the SotSP. The Uchiha clan are descendants of that son (and the SotSP). The potential lies in them to have the Rinnegan.
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On May 31 2012 13:59 Lokian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 13:50 KalWarkov wrote:On May 31 2012 06:38 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Naruto got boring a while ago I'm missing the time when Jiraya was still one of the most powerful ninja  unfortunately this manga sucks to much from power inflation. God ... the S-Class Akatsuki ninjas each had only one fucking OP skill and it was more fun to discover their characters, but nowadays ... pffff .... Susanoo here, susanoo there ... even Amaterasu is a noob technique lol. But well, I should have known it. In the first chapters, the shadow clone technique was even one of the forbidden Jounin-techniques, which in the Naruto stealing the scroll incident stirred up the whole village -_- . mehhhh .... One Piece was/is/will be the best cause it stays true to itself and remains consistent ... People actually like that one piece of shit? People have different tastes but you are missing something when you don't even give One Piece a try ... lol , 1000% agree. i loved kakashi at the beginning, because he was one of the most talented ninjas. he was powerful, but he was still so fucking afraid when he talked to oroshimaru, there still where classes between them. now, kakashi got a whole lot stronger till back then. and what happened? he doesnt even matter at all because everything got so ridiculously OP, its totally retarded. gosh i loved that manga sooo much till the 3rd hokage / oroshimaru fight, since then it got worse and worse. Now we have a fucking SSJ 8 Dragonball Fanmade story and Goku reaches the next SSJ stage 2 chapters from now. the next ssj stage would be ssj 9... oh wait, 9... 9-tails. wow, i just realized how many forms naruto has. well kakashi is still badass i think. he can warp space time. to me thats like a super ultimate skill that makes him above anyone else. lets say, kakashi vs anyone in the manga. warped into another universe. that is all. the only reason he couldn't recently cuz he wasnt full power.
Sasuke and Pain managed to sort of work against the technique by forcing Kakashi to use it defensively. Since he's limited to how many times he could do it, it seems to work.
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On May 31 2012 14:12 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 13:59 Lokian wrote:On May 31 2012 13:50 KalWarkov wrote:On May 31 2012 06:38 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:Naruto got boring a while ago I'm missing the time when Jiraya was still one of the most powerful ninja  unfortunately this manga sucks to much from power inflation. God ... the S-Class Akatsuki ninjas each had only one fucking OP skill and it was more fun to discover their characters, but nowadays ... pffff .... Susanoo here, susanoo there ... even Amaterasu is a noob technique lol. But well, I should have known it. In the first chapters, the shadow clone technique was even one of the forbidden Jounin-techniques, which in the Naruto stealing the scroll incident stirred up the whole village -_- . mehhhh .... One Piece was/is/will be the best cause it stays true to itself and remains consistent ... People actually like that one piece of shit? People have different tastes but you are missing something when you don't even give One Piece a try ... lol , 1000% agree. i loved kakashi at the beginning, because he was one of the most talented ninjas. he was powerful, but he was still so fucking afraid when he talked to oroshimaru, there still where classes between them. now, kakashi got a whole lot stronger till back then. and what happened? he doesnt even matter at all because everything got so ridiculously OP, its totally retarded. gosh i loved that manga sooo much till the 3rd hokage / oroshimaru fight, since then it got worse and worse. Now we have a fucking SSJ 8 Dragonball Fanmade story and Goku reaches the next SSJ stage 2 chapters from now. the next ssj stage would be ssj 9... oh wait, 9... 9-tails. wow, i just realized how many forms naruto has. well kakashi is still badass i think. he can warp space time. to me thats like a super ultimate skill that makes him above anyone else. lets say, kakashi vs anyone in the manga. warped into another universe. that is all. the only reason he couldn't recently cuz he wasnt full power. Sasuke and Pain managed to sort of work against the technique by forcing Kakashi to use it defensively. Since he's limited to how many times he could do it, it seems to work. He's extremely versatile with his bajillions of jutsu, but he doesn't have the chakra pool to use it effectively against a sufficiently formidable opponent :/
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I really like the recent developments in Naruto, including (especially) how OP Madara is. Finally, a legendary character getting the respect he deserves. I think it's really fucking cool that nobody in the modern-day ninja world had a fucking clue just how strong Madara and the First Hokage truly were. All they had were stories, which they believed to be exaggerations, but it turns out they were true.
And it's not like the Kages were doing well and Madara just pulled some deus ex machina shit. Don't forget he's been DOMINATING this fight from the beginning, and was literally just having fun with the clones. Plus Kishi has been hinting forever that there is a perfect form that Susano can reach. I will personally be disappointed if all 5 kage survive this war, or even this battle.
You can cry about OP all you want, but I really like skill systems that allow for some people to be leagues ahead of others. Just look at StarCraft. I actually beat my friends 1v4 all the time, but I can't touch an NA Grandmaster. And someone like IMMvp could mop the floor with an NA Grandmaster easily. Similarly, there are one or two ninjas in Naruto who really are just better than the rest. Deal with it. If you're not already prepared for someone to eventually reach power on par with that of a God (the Sage of the Six Paths), then you're pretty dense. How much foreshadowing do you need?
Also, the Sharingan is pretty sick, but it's within the realm of reason. Remember 99.9999% of Uchihas don't achieve the level that Madara has, or even Sasuke or Itachi's level. Crying about Sharingan because of what .00001% of Sharingan users can do is like saying ninjutsu as a whole is imba because of what the Sage of Six Paths could do. Besides, there have been plenty of non-Sharingan users strong enough to kill Sasuke if they really tried.
EDIT: And can we please discuss the best part of this chapter??? Itachi finally told Sasuke straight to his face, "You're an idiot and Naruto is going to beat you senseless." I wonder if hearing that Itachi respects Naruto will finally make Sasuke respect Naruto, too?
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On May 31 2012 17:30 Courthead wrote:
EDIT: And can we please discuss the best part of this chapter??? Itachi finally told Sasuke straight to his face, "You're an idiot and Naruto is going to beat you senseless." I wonder if hearing that Itachi respects Naruto will finally make Sasuke respect Naruto, too?
Sasuke will get jealous again,, he will whine,, he will yell,, he will go back to being a madman,, and he will get stomped..
This back to being seven years old thing won't last..
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On May 31 2012 17:50 Zinnwaldite wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 17:30 Courthead wrote:
EDIT: And can we please discuss the best part of this chapter??? Itachi finally told Sasuke straight to his face, "You're an idiot and Naruto is going to beat you senseless." I wonder if hearing that Itachi respects Naruto will finally make Sasuke respect Naruto, too?
Sasuke will get jealous again,, he will whine,, he will yell,, he will go back to being a madman,, and he will get stomped.. This back to being seven years old thing won't last..
I agree with this to an extent. I think it will push Sasuke further into the darkness since Itachi has acknowledged Naruto, but not Sasuke. It will make their battle so much more interesting :D
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What happened to the poor byakugan.. I vaguely remember in a very early chapter/episode that they were comparing strengths of byakugan and normal sharingan. Can someone point out what was the conclusion of that comparison?
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On May 31 2012 22:25 Heh_ wrote: What happened to the poor byakugan.. I vaguely remember in a very early chapter/episode that they were comparing strengths of byakugan and normal sharingan. Can someone point out what was the conclusion of that comparison? Author couldnt think of any op techniques for it. In othee words, it sucks in comparison.
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On May 31 2012 17:30 Courthead wrote: Also, the Sharingan is pretty sick, but it's within the realm of reason. Remember 99.9999% of Uchihas don't achieve the level that Madara has, or even Sasuke or Itachi's level. Crying about Sharingan because of what .00001% of Sharingan users can do is like saying ninjutsu as a whole is imba because of what the Sage of Six Paths could do. Besides, there have been plenty of non-Sharingan users strong enough to kill Sasuke if they really tried.
Well what you said is true....probably, it used to be only itachi and Madara who awakened the mangekyo ut just last chapter Itahci told us that Uchihas were apparently spamming izanagi and izanami left and right. Sharingan is cool I admit it, but it become less and less appealing after "predicting Movement or copying jutsus" became irrelevant and it was all about spamming hax jutsus. geezs i miss the old times where this manga incoorperated basic ninja strategies.
good old times when Naruto and Sasuke teamed up for a shadow shuriken technique to fool Zabuza.
In 100 chapters when the Manga ends we will prolly find out that the whole manga is a Genjutsu and we're actually right at the moment Itahci slaughtered the Uchiha and looked into Sasuke's eyes with his mangekyo and put him under Genjutsu, it feels like in "Naruto" Sasuke is Kishi's Main Character anyway.
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On May 31 2012 06:13 SoulTakerz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 06:03 aeroblaster wrote:On May 31 2012 01:28 zJayy962 wrote: Retardation at its finest. I'm glad I always save one piece for the end. On May 31 2012 01:39 RusHXceL wrote: wow Naruto keeps getting boring and boring with this new "techniques"
thank god I save one piece at the start. On May 31 2012 05:53 SoulTakerz wrote: Zzzz naruto is so bad now TT. Im so glad to have one piece. People actually like that one piece of shit? On May 31 2012 04:09 Daiki wrote: I wonder when will the spore in Kabuto turn active Finally an interesting post. Umm...One Piece is actually the most popular manga in the world so...yeah people do like it. Not sure if stupid or trolling. Yea, but when people come in here saying that this manga sucks and that they still have One Piece, why even come in this thread then? They are the true trolls.
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On May 31 2012 22:44 Cush wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 06:13 SoulTakerz wrote:On May 31 2012 06:03 aeroblaster wrote:On May 31 2012 01:28 zJayy962 wrote: Retardation at its finest. I'm glad I always save one piece for the end. On May 31 2012 01:39 RusHXceL wrote: wow Naruto keeps getting boring and boring with this new "techniques"
thank god I save one piece at the start. On May 31 2012 05:53 SoulTakerz wrote: Zzzz naruto is so bad now TT. Im so glad to have one piece. People actually like that one piece of shit? On May 31 2012 04:09 Daiki wrote: I wonder when will the spore in Kabuto turn active Finally an interesting post. Umm...One Piece is actually the most popular manga in the world so...yeah people do like it. Not sure if stupid or trolling. Yea, but when people come in here saying that this manga sucks and that they still have One Piece, why even come in this thread then? They are the true trolls. Because most of us were reading the big three, and two of them crashed and burned while OP stuck to its guns. Why are we still reading this? Let me put my quote, which kinda got buried in the flamefest before Forkiorder got banned..
On May 24 2012 03:36 Heh_ wrote:Meanwhile I'm just waiting for the manga to reach its conclusion.Quoted from the Bleach thread about exactly how I feel: Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 05:57 SilverskY wrote: I want this manga to end. The only reason why I'm still reading this thing is because I'm already 500 chapters into this shit hole and might as well see through it. But damn it couldn't come any faster.
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Reminds me pretty much of Diablo 2. (Sorry for that reference).
Suddenly, Hammerdings. With Enigma. Everywhere!
I just keep on reading because im am intersted in who will die in the course of the war and who will live.
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On May 31 2012 17:30 Courthead wrote: I really like the recent developments in Naruto, including (especially) how OP Madara is. Finally, a legendary character getting the respect he deserves. I think it's really fucking cool that nobody in the modern-day ninja world had a fucking clue just how strong Madara and the First Hokage truly were. All they had were stories, which they believed to be exaggerations, but it turns out they were true.
And it's not like the Kages were doing well and Madara just pulled some deus ex machina shit. Don't forget he's been DOMINATING this fight from the beginning, and was literally just having fun with the clones. Plus Kishi has been hinting forever that there is a perfect form that Susano can reach. I will personally be disappointed if all 5 kage survive this war, or even this battle.
You can cry about OP all you want, but I really like skill systems that allow for some people to be leagues ahead of others. Just look at StarCraft. I actually beat my friends 1v4 all the time, but I can't touch an NA Grandmaster. And someone like IMMvp could mop the floor with an NA Grandmaster easily. Similarly, there are one or two ninjas in Naruto who really are just better than the rest. Deal with it. If you're not already prepared for someone to eventually reach power on par with that of a God (the Sage of the Six Paths), then you're pretty dense. How much foreshadowing do you need?
Also, the Sharingan is pretty sick, but it's within the realm of reason. Remember 99.9999% of Uchihas don't achieve the level that Madara has, or even Sasuke or Itachi's level. Crying about Sharingan because of what .00001% of Sharingan users can do is like saying ninjutsu as a whole is imba because of what the Sage of Six Paths could do. Besides, there have been plenty of non-Sharingan users strong enough to kill Sasuke if they really tried.
EDIT: And can we please discuss the best part of this chapter??? Itachi finally told Sasuke straight to his face, "You're an idiot and Naruto is going to beat you senseless." I wonder if hearing that Itachi respects Naruto will finally make Sasuke respect Naruto, too?
The starcraft reference doesn't really make sense, because the most important part of it is practice. It also means that every other character is forgotten because they're not naturally gifted enough, which is obviously not a good thing. Madara was a great ninja for sure, but learning that all he apparently had going for him was his eye techniques and nothing else is pretty disappointing. He may be strong, but he's still facing five of the most powerful ninja alive, and he's barely breaking a sweat. All sharingan users now are using advanced eye techniques. It's fine if it's kept to let's say one or two people at most, but seeing it now being spammed with no repercussions by four people, along with another who has arguably one of the strongest techniques ever (though at some cost, Kakashi), it gets a little annoying. I'm honestly hating Itachi right now, he's fucking stupid. "Hmm, this kid looks up to me like a god, and if I just explain myself, there's a good chance he'll listen to me. I could probably stop a lot if of potential conflict as well, which is what I've been trying to do my whole life... Better leave it to the 18 year old who has to deal with his own problems as well". Seriously, it's all been building up to Sasuke wanting to talk to Itachi, and that was probably all it would take.
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On June 01 2012 00:20 Dark_Chill wrote: The starcraft reference doesn't really make sense, because the most important part of it is practice. It also means that every other character is forgotten because they're not naturally gifted enough, which is obviously not a good thing.
Naruto would be boring as hell if every single character was similar in strength, and imo people who yearn for that situation haven't really thought through the implications. The fact is that there've always been shitty kids (including Naruto), and there've always been shitty adults (like Iruka). Weak ninjas fight against other weak ninjas, and strong ninjas fight against strong ninjas. The entire first half of the series we watched relatively-weak ninjas fight each other.
Now people have grown up, and a handful of previously-shitty kids have made it to kage-level status. But most of them are, obviously, still shitty. I don't know why/how anyone can argue that every single character should be strong all the time. That's not good fiction. It's not realistic in the least. Thank god Kishi isn't making showing us Tenten vs Madara Uchiha right now. He already showed the relatively-weak characters fighting relatively-weak enemies, as is their appropriate role.
As for talent, obviously StarCraft is going to be different from the ninja world, where (a) chakra reserves are hereditary, (b) bloodline limits are hereditary, and (c) some students train under Hokage-level teachers while others train under scrubs. That's been obvious from the beginning of the series when you look at the best ninjas and see that they all trained together, or when you look at the hokages and see that they're all related.
It would be boring to have a world where practice accounts for 100% of ability and there are no special powers that can be gained without practice. Then everyone will end up with roughly the same ability, and nobody will stand out. See: real-life martial arts.
On June 01 2012 00:20 Dark_Chill wrote: Madara was a great ninja for sure, but learning that all he apparently had going for him was his eye techniques and nothing else is pretty disappointing. He may be strong, but he's still facing five of the most powerful ninja alive, and he's barely breaking a sweat. Who said that all he has going for him are his eye techniques? How can you claim that he is unskilled at any/every other area? What do you want him to do, run around throwing shurikens at Gaara and trying to punch the Raikage to death?
The Sharingan is an extremely versatile technique with tons of unique abilities. Even Orochimaru, master of variety, wanted the its power above all else. I don't really understand how anyone can complain about history's best Sharingan user making use of... the Sharingan.
On June 01 2012 00:20 Dark_Chill wrote: All sharingan users now are using advanced eye techniques. It's fine if it's kept to let's say one or two people at most, but seeing it now being spammed with no repercussions by four people, along with another who has arguably one of the strongest techniques ever (though at some cost, Kakashi), it gets a little annoying.
Really? Madara's Sharingan is totally unique to anything we've ever seen. Besides, him and Itachi are long dead and were just revived temporarily. It's not like they're some new characters who are here to stay and who recently gained Sharingan. As for Kakashi, he does not "spam Sharingan with no cost". Sasuke is the only permanent character who fits your description, and even so, he's hardly OP.
On June 01 2012 00:20 Dark_Chill wrote:I'm honestly hating Itachi right now, he's fucking stupid. "Hmm, this kid looks up to me like a god, and if I just explain myself, there's a good chance he'll listen to me. I could probably stop a lot if of potential conflict as well, which is what I've been trying to do my whole life... Better leave it to the 18 year old who has to deal with his own problems as well". Seriously, it's all been building up to Sasuke wanting to talk to Itachi, and that was probably all it would take.
Sasuke's entire motivation to destroy Konoha is to punish them for what they made Itachi do.
And Itachi has basically said, "Dammit Sasuke, why are you fighting Konoha? You're following the wrong path, idiot. Nobody forced me to do what I did. I killed our stupid clan because they were stupid, and I'd do it again, too. I love Konoha. Even after being revived, I'm willing to die again to help Konoha. By the way, listen to Naruto."
Don't know what more you want Itachi to say...
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On June 01 2012 03:33 Courthead wrote: Naruto would be boring as hell if every single character was similar in strength, and imo people who yearn for that situation haven't really thought through the implications. The fact is that there've always been shitty kids (including Naruto), and there've always been shitty adults (like Iruka). Weak ninjas fight against other weak ninjas, and strong ninjas fight against strong ninjas. The entire first half of the series we watched relatively-weak ninjas fight each other.
Now people have grown up, and a handful of previously-shitty kids have made it to kage-level status. But most of them are, obviously, still shitty. I don't know why/how anyone can argue that every single character should be strong all the time. That's not good fiction. It's not realistic in the least. Thank god Kishi isn't making showing us Tenten vs Madara Uchiha right now. He already showed the relatively-weak characters fighting relatively-weak enemies, as is their appropriate role.
As for talent, obviously StarCraft is going to be different from the ninja world, where (a) chakra reserves are hereditary, (b) bloodline limits are hereditary, and (c) some students train under Hokage-level teachers while others train under scrubs. That's been obvious from the beginning of the series when you look at the best ninjas and see that they all trained together, or when you look at the hokages and see that they're all related.
It would be boring to have a world where practice accounts for 100% of ability and there are no special powers that can be gained without practice. Then everyone will end up with roughly the same ability, and nobody will stand out. See: real-life martial arts. Yes, but there's a difference between a soccer player that can run circles around his peers and a soccer player that can freeze time.
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