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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 18 2013 19:56 GMT
#301
listening to that Yeezus right now, thus far it's garbage. only on track 3 though.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 18 2013 23:12 GMT
#302
On June 19 2013 04:56 Schelim wrote:
listening to that Yeezus right now, thus far it's garbage. only on track 3 though.

It's pretty bad, the album is sort of a mess. As far as new things, it's stuff that's been done before.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 19 2013 00:32 GMT
#303
ROFL this born sinner review

r i g o r m o r t i s
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 19 2013 10:04 GMT
#304
On June 19 2013 09:32 andyrau wrote:
ROFL this born sinner review

r i g o r m o r t i s

Which review?
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Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
June 19 2013 10:57 GMT
#305
On June 19 2013 04:56 Schelim wrote:
listening to that Yeezus right now, thus far it's garbage. only on track 3 though.


On June 19 2013 08:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 04:56 Schelim wrote:
listening to that Yeezus right now, thus far it's garbage. only on track 3 though.

It's pretty bad, the album is sort of a mess. As far as new things, it's stuff that's been done before.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeezus#Critical_reception


DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 19 2013 11:21 GMT
#306
^just cause critics like it doesn't mean they have to.

Personally I think it's a good album, but disappointing given that it's coming from Kanye. With him I know he's capable of a better album, mostly lyrically.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 11:45:30
June 19 2013 11:29 GMT
#307
Both Jay Z and Kanye pretty much fkd their next albums after making Watch the Throne. I mean fuck me, probably the biggest rap album this century? (thats after 90s before u QQ) How on earth are they going to follow that up with solo albums :S

Jay Z might fair a bit better, but Blueprint 3 wasn't world class, it was good though, but not amazing.
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Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
June 19 2013 11:41 GMT
#308
On June 19 2013 20:29 Pandemona wrote:
Both Jay Z and Kanye pretty much fkd their next albums after making Watch the Throne. I mean fuck me, probably the biggest rap album this century? (thats after 90s before u QQ)


Depends on what you mean by biggest. I don't really know how I'd rate Yeezus, the first half of the album was great, the second - bleurgh. Overall, i was kinda disappointed considering all the hype and that it came after MBDTF which is probably my favourite/second favourite Kanye album
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
June 19 2013 11:41 GMT
#309
On June 19 2013 20:21 DystopiaX wrote:
^just cause critics like it doesn't mean they have to.

Personally I think it's a good album, but disappointing given that it's coming from Kanye. With him I know he's capable of a better album, mostly lyrically.

I think he was mostly talking to wei2 and how he said "as far as new stuff it has been done before". The link he put has actual critics saying the opposite. Opinions are opinions, facts are facts but i agree with your sentiment.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
June 19 2013 11:47 GMT
#310
On June 19 2013 20:21 DystopiaX wrote:
^just cause critics like it doesn't mean they have to.

Personally I think it's a good album, but disappointing given that it's coming from Kanye. With him I know he's capable of a better album, mostly lyrically.


Calling something bad when in direct opposition to unanimous praise by a select group of individuals who literally have the job of critiquing seems a bit short sighted. Especially when no argument of substance was made as to why Yeezus is not good. It would be better for them to simply voice their personal dislike of the album and accept that it is actually a quality work of music that falls outside their preference.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 19 2013 12:07 GMT
#311
http://kroq.cbslocal.com/2013/06/18/west-on-west-adam-west-interprets-kanye-wests-new-album-yeezus/#.UcCtLVNNBlo.twitter
haha
Love Adam West's voice, but part of it is white dudes saying rap lyrics.
Yagonagos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada12 Posts
June 21 2013 05:57 GMT
#312
Just listened to this, and dayum.

darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 21 2013 06:01 GMT
#313
Yeezus is fucking horrible.

I hadn't listened to J-Cole before, but listening to these two songs off Born Sinner:



and compare the lyrics/beat to this, from Yeezus:


Seriously, how the fuck do people like Yeezus?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
June 21 2013 06:14 GMT
#314
I've been watching some SSBM combo videos and such and bumped into "June" by RJD2 ft. Copywrite. I like the lyrics and the instrumental; I just wish there was a 3rd verse since the break between is so long and Copywrite is so sick (apparently).



Also been getting into Immortal Technique. He's got some good stuffs.

Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 21 2013 08:24 GMT
#315
On June 19 2013 19:57 Dali. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 04:56 Schelim wrote:
listening to that Yeezus right now, thus far it's garbage. only on track 3 though.


Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 08:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 19 2013 04:56 Schelim wrote:
listening to that Yeezus right now, thus far it's garbage. only on track 3 though.

It's pretty bad, the album is sort of a mess. As far as new things, it's stuff that's been done before.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeezus#Critical_reception



what a surprise, a Kanye West album got positive reviews from critics. you do realize how popular he is and how perfect of an opportunity it is for professional music critics to call something "great" that is both very popular AND very different from the rest of the mainstream? it makes them look like they're ahead of the curve while also appealing to the preferences of a large amount of their readers.

that does not change the fact i can't even listen to this album. it destroys my ears. i did not expect Kanye to rap anything good, cause i know he can't, but the lyrics are even worse than his other album. what i did expect, however, was great production, and that electronic bullshit kills my ears.
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unteqair
Profile Joined November 2011
United States308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 08:49:08
June 21 2013 08:48 GMT
#316
From way back when



There is more singing than rapping, so I'm not completely sure if it qualifies as Hip Hop / Rap.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 21 2013 11:06 GMT
#317
I dont think I've ever seen an album have such a divide from what the critics think and what the general public thinks as Yeezus.
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Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 11:51:10
June 21 2013 11:49 GMT
#318
On June 21 2013 15:01 darthfoley wrote:
Yeezus is fucking horrible.

I hadn't listened to J-Cole before, but listening to these two songs off Born Sinner:

and compare the lyrics/beat to this, from Yeezus:

Seriously, how the fuck do people like Yeezus?


Born Sinner as a whole was just not that interesting. Hearing 'Villuminati' for the first time was like "ohhh shit, this is amazing", then it was just a roller coaster of good and meh. Rich Niggaz, Forbidden Fruit, Let Nas Down & Runaway were all pretty strong in all regards. Everything else was kinda forgettable. Something about the way Cole deals with his material is just too plain. I could go into great detail if could be bothered really reviewing the album (had about ~4 full listens, ~10 on certain songs) but its just not worth the effort. Its a good album, but even listening to it now it just comes across as weak.

Yeezus on the other hand is just fucking nuts. It demands your attention instantly and does a pretty good job holding it. Its not a nice album by any stretch. Its dirty, crass, obnoxious and outrageous. It also comes across as entirely sincere. I think Kanye put himself into this 100% just like 808s. There's no gloss at all. Lyrics are utterly without pretense. Some of the lines are pretty shit under conventional analysis. But I don't find myself cringing. I mean sampling a song as solemnly disturbing as Strange Fruit and using it to underpin the lyrics and production of Blood of the Leaves is almost disgusting in its concept. Its SO fucking obtuse. And yet that is probably my favourite song. I mean if Bound 2 is a love song then yet contains these lines like these

All them other niggas lame, and you know it now
When a real nigga hold you down, you supposed to drown

I wanna fuck you hard on the sink
After that, give you something to drink
Step back, can't get spunk on the mink

She asked me what I wished for on my wishlist
Have you ever asked your bitch for other bitches?

How is it even a love song?

But that's kinda the beauty of it all. Its fucking ridiculous. Beautifully fucking ridiculous. If art is the baring of the human condition, no matter how lovely or disgusting, then this is a record of Kanye's humanity at this time.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
June 21 2013 12:11 GMT
#319
i agree with dali. J cole's album bored the fuck out of me and it sounded like his shit when he first came out, except ripping on other artists more and being less original.

I think that's a nice take on Yeezus. you have to really pay attention to it, and on the surface it's very rough. Nice that you mention 808s because i enjoyed that enough that i understand what you mean. I need more listens for lyrics and different elements but after 5 or so times ive def found parts that i enjoy. i mean there's flaws here and there but overall i agree with you - if you look at it as an artform and not just a hip hop album there's things to appreciate and love. which is exactly why people don't like it, i suppose.

also my favorite songs were also blood on the leaves and bound 2 so i think we can get along lol. i think its something you have to zoom out to listen to at the same time though. which goes against what i said originally when i first went through, but looking at it from that perspective..

i dunno man. so easy to say 'oh its pretty bad,' but a bad album won't have you wanting to listen to it again
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 21 2013 16:18 GMT
#320
I don't really agree with either of you. Maybe it's just me, but I really think the enjoyability of a song rests at least 40-60% on the beat/music surrounding the lyrics. I just found Yeezus incredibly hard to listen to; to me, Born Sinner (at least 3-4 of the songs) were smooth sounding, which is something i value highly.

I won't be listening to Yeezus again, nor spending money on it.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
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