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Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
June 21 2013 16:24 GMT
#321
I don't know, Yeezus is definitely not Kanyes best, but not his worst either. I like his experiment with "harsher" beats, which makes him sound a bit like Death Grips. I don't think he nailed it 100% but it's still a solid album.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 21 2013 16:43 GMT
#322
On June 22 2013 01:18 darthfoley wrote:
I don't really agree with either of you. Maybe it's just me, but I really think the enjoyability of a song rests at least 40-60% on the beat/music surrounding the lyrics. I just found Yeezus incredibly hard to listen to; to me, Born Sinner (at least 3-4 of the songs) were smooth sounding, which is something i value highly.

I won't be listening to Yeezus again, nor spending money on it.

I haven't listened to Yeezus or Born Sinner yet, but for me I'm finding myself veering away from smoothness, I keep going back to albums like Danny Brown's XXX and Chance the Rappers's Acid Rap, just cause they are like the opposite of predictable, smooth sounding music.

So I guess I'll enjoy Yeezus?
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Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
June 21 2013 16:48 GMT
#323
Yeezus was nothing special IMO. It's Kanye being self indulgent and trying to make an art album. It doesn't really come off as very good, especially considering how amazing MBDTF was. My suspicion is that we as a civilization have reached peak Kanye and have only downward to go from here.
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
June 21 2013 16:50 GMT
#324
His peak will be getting a Kardashian pregnant, and we all know it.

=P
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el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 00:16:58
June 21 2013 17:01 GMT
#325
Not really a fan of Yeezus either. It's sorta difficult to listen to for casual listening and not nuanced/deep enough for an artsy album. It makes his other albums seem subtle, which is saying something, lol. Obviously Kanye was going for a harsh sound, but I'm just not a fan.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 21 2013 17:29 GMT
#326
MassHysteria, I think your sig is a slighty misquote, its "at exactly which point..."
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 17:44:36
June 21 2013 17:42 GMT
#327
I think you're prob right. I only meant to have it on for like a day when I first put it.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 21:43:08
June 21 2013 21:32 GMT
#328
On June 22 2013 01:43 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 01:18 darthfoley wrote:
I don't really agree with either of you. Maybe it's just me, but I really think the enjoyability of a song rests at least 40-60% on the beat/music surrounding the lyrics. I just found Yeezus incredibly hard to listen to; to me, Born Sinner (at least 3-4 of the songs) were smooth sounding, which is something i value highly.

I won't be listening to Yeezus again, nor spending money on it.

I haven't listened to Yeezus or Born Sinner yet, but for me I'm finding myself veering away from smoothness, I keep going back to albums like Danny Brown's XXX and Chance the Rappers's Acid Rap, just cause they are like the opposite of predictable, smooth sounding music.

So I guess I'll enjoy Yeezus?

well xxx was one of the best conceptual albums in the past 5 years and Acid Rap is like one of the mixtapes of the year so I wouldn't really say Yeezus is on the same level.

Yeezus is like an amalgamation of a lot of the new developing trends in alt-hiphop, watered down for the rest of us to enjoy (or not). That said, most people that say 'yo yeezy pushed the envalope wit dis joint' need to uh.. diversify their portfolio, so to speak. On the other hand, they're right in the sense that this album is definitely more grungy than his past works.


Really, between the two albums (Yeezus and Born Sinner), BGF put it pretty nicely. Look past all of his childish hate and funny jabs and there's actually a valid opinion to be considered.

Yeezus might be a great album, or it might not. First couple listens you're either going to love or hate the edginess, but it'll probably be a decade or more before we can actually go back and say with certainty, "Kanye outdid hisself with this and changed the game again" or it might just be one of those things were it's like, "Well, at the very least we got Bound 2 out of it."

And Born Sinner is just like.. same ol shit once again. I mean, that Eeyore comparison Mr. Cocaine Biceps did with the Sideline Story really exemplified the self-angst and retrospection in the album, but I think his droopy eyes and face is a great metaphor for the amount of bore I derived from Born Sinner. "Aite" is the most apt description, nuff said.
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 22:47:39
June 21 2013 22:31 GMT
#329
damn thats a good way to put it


edit
not REALLY rap but i love everything about this and i like drake http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/06/watch-drake-get-denied-access-to-the-heat-locker-room/
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 21 2013 23:44 GMT
#330
On June 22 2013 01:48 Rayeth wrote:
Yeezus was nothing special IMO. It's Kanye being self indulgent and trying to make an art album. It doesn't really come off as very good, especially considering how amazing MBDTF was. My suspicion is that we as a civilization have reached peak Kanye and have only downward to go from here.

idk I think a lot of people felt that way after 808s and he went on to make MBDTF, Kanye is unpredictable.

I don't think it's a poorly made album, if someone went in expecting MBDTF or old Kanye or doesn't like the dark sounding beats I could understand why they'd be disappointed, but I think Kanye was successful in creating the sound he wanted to achieve.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 22 2013 00:40 GMT
#331
What other hip hop forums do you guys go to, if any at all?
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
June 22 2013 00:45 GMT
#332
None. I don't really like discussing music (though i'm starting to) because its all opinion. Same with kpop (i only really visit kmd). I don't want to be overloaded eith opinions and reading and i just want to enjoy the music how i want to enjoy it
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Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
June 22 2013 03:26 GMT
#333
On June 22 2013 09:40 MCDayC wrote:
What other hip hop forums do you guys go to, if any at all?


r/hiphopheads is the best music community I've found. Super respectful and fun. /mu/ is great for trolling, being trolled and insanely pointless arguments.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
June 22 2013 04:29 GMT
#334
On June 22 2013 01:48 Rayeth wrote:
Yeezus was nothing special IMO. It's Kanye being self indulgent and trying to make an art album. It doesn't really come off as very good, especially considering how amazing MBDTF was. My suspicion is that we as a civilization have reached peak Kanye and have only downward to go from here.


i saw that argument posted just about everywhere after 808s came out... lol. know your history fam

yeezus is interesting because it's one of those albums that splits the hip hop community right down the middle. i personally love it - i can listen to guilt trip all day. is it as good as MBDTF? no, but it was never going to be in the first place because MBDTF is as close to a perfect album that anyone over the last 30 or 40 years of music has ever come close to.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 22 2013 07:45 GMT
#335
On June 22 2013 12:26 Dali. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 09:40 MCDayC wrote:
What other hip hop forums do you guys go to, if any at all?


r/hiphopheads is the best music community I've found. Super respectful and fun. /mu/ is great for trolling, being trolled and insanely pointless arguments.

I do love some r/hiphopheads
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Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
June 22 2013 07:54 GMT
#336
I was gonna come in here and be like "Yo, Acid rap!" but you guys already went there. That means I should probably spend some time in this thread as theres some people with similar taste to myself in here. I have yet to listen to Yeezus or Born Sinner, but they're on tap for tomorrow. I'm not big on Kanye and I'm not going into it expecting a masterpiece so I'll probably enjoy it a good deal.
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 08:16:42
June 22 2013 08:13 GMT
#337
3 new drake songs

https://soundcloud.com/octobersveryown

the motion is my kind of song omg. his flow reminds me of something else but im very excited omg.

jodeci freestyle is kinda like mixtape drake, but i'm a fan of the production and the direction of the sound.

versace is more old style drake, but i don't like it as much.

but september release <3


meanwhile the PARTYNEXTDOOR dude is pretty good if you're into that kinda thing
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 22 2013 08:53 GMT
#338
On June 22 2013 13:29 sertman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 01:48 Rayeth wrote:
Yeezus was nothing special IMO. It's Kanye being self indulgent and trying to make an art album. It doesn't really come off as very good, especially considering how amazing MBDTF was. My suspicion is that we as a civilization have reached peak Kanye and have only downward to go from here.

is it as good as MBDTF? no, but it was never going to be in the first place because MBDTF is as close to a perfect album that anyone over the last 30 or 40 years of music has ever come close to.

uh
what
???????
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duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
June 22 2013 09:00 GMT
#339
yeah MBDTF appreciation has gone wayyyy overboard, imo it isn't even the best Kanye album let alone the best album of the last decades rofl
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 10:52:52
June 22 2013 09:18 GMT
#340
well, Born Sinner and Yeezus finally arrived.

LOL, I got the deluxe edition of Born Sinner... and I cant open it to get to the 2nd CD. i'm not supposed to be this stupid, this is weird.
I cant tell which way the hinge is, and I dont want to just rip the whole thing apart


Dw everyone i figured it out
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