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No, this is not a joke/trolling thread. We don't need more filler posts asking if it is.

Remember to spoiler season 6 content, and clearly label your spoilers.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 01 2012 13:20 GMT
#9821
Re: Hasbro's response:

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Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
March 01 2012 14:23 GMT
#9822
Why isn't it saturday already? I need my fluttershy : \
Jhuyt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden365 Posts
March 01 2012 15:02 GMT
#9823
To everybody spoiling the upcoming episodes: USE SPOILER TAGS, they're there for a reason >
[17:32] <catphone> Roll for % cooler [17:32] <catphone> .roll d20 [17:32] <+Sweetiebot> catphone: 20 (d20=20)
Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
March 01 2012 15:29 GMT
#9824
Yea seriously, just because Gary did it doesn't mean we shouldn't use spoiler tags regarding ANY future episodes in the thread. I mean...is it REALLY that hard to spoiler tag? Being completely ignorant of all episode information is actually a really big part of the show for me because its affects how I interact with the introduction, which is a huuuuuge part of any story.

That being said, it seems that we are slowly taking over everyone on TL....only a matter of time....
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 01 2012 16:07 GMT
#9825
yeah, you don't need to tell everyone that the next episode is a spikerarityapplejackfluttershytwilightrainbowdash episode
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 17:23:32
March 01 2012 17:19 GMT
#9826
Official Bronycraft Showmatch Series!

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+ Show Spoiler +
Picture by Blotto The Clown of gamerswithjobs.com


Bio and I have been setting up and organizing a weekly showmatch series for the communities enjoyment, and I'm here to announce the first event! Each week, Bio will be joined by a community guest caster to cast a best of 7 series between two members of the community! Games are going to be each Sunday.

The Guest Caster for Week 2: You know him, you love him (and his troll antics), the illustrious + Show Spoiler +
Stardragon


Third series:
Date: March Fourth (Yes, that's an order soldier), 2012
Time: 2:00 pm EST
Place: Battle.net (And #tlponies of course)

The Players: Sermok(P) vs. Jhuyt(Z)!

If you wish to participate in future Bronycraft Showmatches as a player or as a guest caster, please contact me via PM here on TL.net or get a hold of me some other way. If you want to be streamed or have a go at casting, this event is your chance :D. If you're at all interested, PM me, I'll do my best to get you in if you merely show interest. You do require a NA account, or access to one (perhaps someone will be nice and lend you one if you need it).

For this sunday, would somepony happen to have a guest pass that is unused for the NA server? Jhuyt requires one (or for someone to lend him an account).
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Phearlock
Profile Joined December 2007
Norway400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 21:41:47
March 01 2012 21:41 GMT
#9827
Thread in the yellow, good thing I have something to contribute for once, the first thing I've drawn in like 2 months. Was a random OC pony request from an IRL friend:

[image loading]

(Could be better, but it went ok)
Volkspanzer
Profile Joined May 2010
United States83 Posts
March 01 2012 22:01 GMT
#9828
On March 01 2012 20:05 kastoob wrote:
Whenever I google image search the word 'derp' I see images which draw their humour at the expense of a group of disabled people who are incapable of controling their speech coherently, I think its called a cerebral palsy. It makes sense to me how someone could be offended.
While I think Ditzy is a less offensive name, I would've preferred if that scene never aired and that character never had a canon name. We were all happy when derpy/ditzy was not canon, and she didnt need to be.
I read some of the letters against the name derpy and I honestly think the arguments are logical and well thought out. They're not whining, and have good reason to feel the way they do.
Now while I am not handicapped, and I guess if you used the word derp around me I wouldn't be too offended, but then I gotta leave this quote:
Show nested quote +

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
-Martin Niemoller

Sure very few people were offended in the end, a minority, but its better that way. Atleast it wasn't a large group of people. If people can be offended enough to send mail complaining, the next likely thing to happen is bad rep from media. It could've appeared on Fox news, who knows. Hasbro is covering their asses and I honestly think they are in the right for doing so, and I would also like to think that maybe they are sensitive enough to care about not offending people.
The more important question would be whether appeasing a large fanbase is more important than avoiding alienating a minority, in regards to a show targeted at children.
Whether Derp is better than Ditzy, that answer has little value.
Just some thoughts I thought I'd leave here.


So what makes putting Derpy Hooves on TV any different than putting Ed from Ed, Edd 'n Eddy on TV, Ed the Hyena from the Lion King on the big screen, Cheese from Foster's Home, or any other archetypical dumbass, fuckwit, peabrain, or braindead character on to any other form of mainstream media?

If it's the demographic that watches this that you're concerned with, in the case of young children, I don't think they're going to make the connection of Derpy and mental retardation. In the case of the adult... why would you be offended by this, when there's plenty out there already that's offensive on PURPOSE?? The fact that this is even a topic of discussion is baffling to me.
Caumen
Profile Joined January 2012
Denmark42 Posts
March 01 2012 23:28 GMT
#9829
I would say it was wrong to hide something or someone, just because they are showing a slight retardness.
I do understand why they panicked and hurried to change it though, as they had no idea what they had unleashed.

I don't see anything wrong in their actions at removing derpys name from the episode, though, I still find it wrong, that they felt the need for it through people contacting them.

Oh well, my last page in my Out of bounds comic is up! I think I've removed all the small oopses everywhere (white still visible on the transparent areas, a tongue that shouldn't have the colour of her coat and a bit of colour that wasn't meant to be)

http://caumen.deviantart.com/art/Out-of-bounds-3-288059263

I hope you like it! \o/

Toodles
Otterly confuddleling.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
March 01 2012 23:33 GMT
#9830
<3 Caumen, great comic!

Also, Diversee is fucking awesome:

[image loading]
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 01 2012 23:35 GMT
#9831
On March 02 2012 07:01 Volkspanzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 20:05 kastoob wrote:
Whenever I google image search the word 'derp' I see images which draw their humour at the expense of a group of disabled people who are incapable of controling their speech coherently, I think its called a cerebral palsy. It makes sense to me how someone could be offended.
While I think Ditzy is a less offensive name, I would've preferred if that scene never aired and that character never had a canon name. We were all happy when derpy/ditzy was not canon, and she didnt need to be.
I read some of the letters against the name derpy and I honestly think the arguments are logical and well thought out. They're not whining, and have good reason to feel the way they do.
Now while I am not handicapped, and I guess if you used the word derp around me I wouldn't be too offended, but then I gotta leave this quote:

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
-Martin Niemoller

Sure very few people were offended in the end, a minority, but its better that way. Atleast it wasn't a large group of people. If people can be offended enough to send mail complaining, the next likely thing to happen is bad rep from media. It could've appeared on Fox news, who knows. Hasbro is covering their asses and I honestly think they are in the right for doing so, and I would also like to think that maybe they are sensitive enough to care about not offending people.
The more important question would be whether appeasing a large fanbase is more important than avoiding alienating a minority, in regards to a show targeted at children.
Whether Derp is better than Ditzy, that answer has little value.
Just some thoughts I thought I'd leave here.


So what makes putting Derpy Hooves on TV any different than putting Ed from Ed, Edd 'n Eddy on TV, Ed the Hyena from the Lion King on the big screen, Cheese from Foster's Home, or any other archetypical dumbass, fuckwit, peabrain, or braindead character on to any other form of mainstream media?

If it's the demographic that watches this that you're concerned with, in the case of young children, I don't think they're going to make the connection of Derpy and mental retardation. In the case of the adult... why would you be offended by this, when there's plenty out there already that's offensive on PURPOSE?? The fact that this is even a topic of discussion is baffling to me.

Its the effect of both the name, the voice and the actions of Derpy which strongly imply some kind of retardation. Now if you drop say, the voice then suddenly Derpy becomes associated with being clumsy rather than retarded. Change the name from Derpy to Ditzy and keep the voice and you still have the association with clumsy rather than retarded. If you look at Ed, his name doesn't imply that he is retarded. The same goes for similar characters in shows (i.e. pinky from pinky and the brain). Unfortunately, Derpy just had too many traits indicating it and this was the result.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Lynda
Profile Joined May 2010
649 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 23:47:30
March 01 2012 23:46 GMT
#9832
On March 02 2012 08:28 Caumen wrote:
Oh well, my last page in my Out of bounds comic is up! I think I've removed all the small oopses everywhere (white still visible on the transparent areas, a tongue that shouldn't have the colour of her coat and a bit of colour that wasn't meant to be)

http://caumen.deviantart.com/art/Out-of-bounds-3-288059263

I hope you like it! \o/

Toodles

Yeah, have been waiting for this; really cute and great finish to your comic. :D


Also, nothing can go wrong with this, right?
Saurabhinator
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Australia347 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 23:59:40
March 01 2012 23:51 GMT
#9833
On March 02 2012 07:01 Volkspanzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 20:05 kastoob wrote:
Whenever I google image search the word 'derp' I see images which draw their humour at the expense of a group of disabled people who are incapable of controling their speech coherently, I think its called a cerebral palsy. It makes sense to me how someone could be offended.
While I think Ditzy is a less offensive name, I would've preferred if that scene never aired and that character never had a canon name. We were all happy when derpy/ditzy was not canon, and she didnt need to be.
I read some of the letters against the name derpy and I honestly think the arguments are logical and well thought out. They're not whining, and have good reason to feel the way they do.
Now while I am not handicapped, and I guess if you used the word derp around me I wouldn't be too offended, but then I gotta leave this quote:

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
-Martin Niemoller

Sure very few people were offended in the end, a minority, but its better that way. Atleast it wasn't a large group of people. If people can be offended enough to send mail complaining, the next likely thing to happen is bad rep from media. It could've appeared on Fox news, who knows. Hasbro is covering their asses and I honestly think they are in the right for doing so, and I would also like to think that maybe they are sensitive enough to care about not offending people.
The more important question would be whether appeasing a large fanbase is more important than avoiding alienating a minority, in regards to a show targeted at children.
Whether Derp is better than Ditzy, that answer has little value.
Just some thoughts I thought I'd leave here.


So what makes putting Derpy Hooves on TV any different than putting Ed from Ed, Edd 'n Eddy on TV, Ed the Hyena from the Lion King on the big screen, Cheese from Foster's Home, or any other archetypical dumbass, fuckwit, peabrain, or braindead character on to any other form of mainstream media?

If it's the demographic that watches this that you're concerned with, in the case of young children, I don't think they're going to make the connection of Derpy and mental retardation. In the case of the adult... why would you be offended by this, when there's plenty out there already that's offensive on PURPOSE?? The fact that this is even a topic of discussion is baffling to me.


the difference is that these characters were not named retard (or in this case; derp). They were given names like ed, Ralph, Patrick.
Children might not realize the word they are using is a slur, but that's where the word derives from. We shouldn't teach children that calling other people a retard is ok. You have to remember, this is a show which resounds around teaching children good values.

from my perspective:
voice change : changed because the character was supposed to be a girl in the first place. Might as well fix the mistake.
name removal : political correctness. necessary.
eye corrected : the producers had a panic attack. it was unnecessary to change this.

EDIT: This is a show where rainbow calling twilight an egghead was considered borderline. Of course Derp crosses that line.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 02 2012 00:02 GMT
#9834
I'm going to disagree that her name implies any retardation. The word "Derp" is so widely used in so many different types of context, even among the subculture that created it, that it might as well not have any definition at all.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 00:35:00
March 02 2012 00:04 GMT
#9835
i demand a wallpaper (full HD) rest is your choice, should be too colorful

#edit lol should NOT be too colorful!
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 02 2012 00:16 GMT
#9836
I'll just leave this here

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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13955 Posts
March 02 2012 01:17 GMT
#9837


This sunday I will not fail my rarity. Special taktics will be the order of the day. You could say the games will be over in a blink.

But really so pumped for sunday. I promise to make it a great showmatch.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
March 02 2012 02:16 GMT
#9838
About Derpy, I'm happy about the voice change. First voice was strangely deep and weird. Too bad about the name and the eyes, though .
Bora Pain minha porra!
Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
March 02 2012 04:31 GMT
#9839
I know it's a little late for most of you, but
Happy Derpy Hooves Day! I hope it was a good one.

This whole controversy has really been a downer. But if there's one thing this show is about, it's about being happy and friendly even in the worst of circumstances. So, I guess we should all just stay positive and smile smile smile!

(Obligatory Derpy pic)
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Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
March 02 2012 06:35 GMT
#9840
Caumen's comic is now on EQD..

Brace yourselves....views are coming!
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