I do remember hearing that Mashima didn't plan too far ahead early on because he thought the series wasn't going to go for as long as it has so its possible little inconsistencies from early arcs just happen because he didn't have the whole story planned out from the start.

ZerOCoolSC2

8984 Posts

December 14 2016 07:32 GMT

#4223

I remember something like that as well. I wonder if he'll redeem himself and kill some more lead characters (how long is Makarov dead?) and if he'll find a way for Zeref and Mavis to marry and live happily ever after.

Slaughter

United States20254 Posts

December 14 2016 07:53 GMT

#4224

He barely even kills villains. Markarov is like the Neji death, one meaningful one to throw in a token emotional moment and its easier to kill off the older generation. Maybe he will axe Gildarts too. He already ruined Jellal's good death and end of his arc to contrive some made up romance so Erza has a love interest.

ZerOCoolSC2

8984 Posts

December 14 2016 08:07 GMT

#4225

I agree. To bring up the Neji death, that's hard man. I got kinda choked up at that one. But I think that he can do it further and kill Natsu or Gray. Someone meaningful has to die for this to be a good ending. This is turning into the 4th Ninja War and we don't have people dying enough. The small fry have probably been killed off, but not enough main people. I think the Ten Wizard Saints are dead (at least the top 4)

abuse

Latvia1932 Posts

December 14 2016 09:10 GMT

#4226

sadly enough the ten wizard saints actually qualify as small-fry.

About Gildarts death..
Sadly I probably wouldn't care if I'd see that happen.
Gildarts hasn't gotten nearly as much attention as he should have.

ZerOCoolSC2

8984 Posts

December 14 2016 15:57 GMT

#4227

Gildarts was touted to be the strongest besides God Serena so many times and he never got the chance. I'm curious to see what he and Natsu would do to the world if they fought.

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

December 15 2016 05:55 GMT

#4228

On December 14 2016 18:10 abuse wrote:
sadly enough the ten wizard saints actually qualify as small-fry.

About Gildarts death..
Sadly I probably wouldn't care if I'd see that happen.
Gildarts hasn't gotten nearly as much attention as he should have.

ten wizard saints were never shown to be very strong though

ZerOCoolSC2

8984 Posts

December 15 2016 07:04 GMT

#4229

Jellal and Jura were shown to be pretty strong. Makarov and Jose as well.

abuse

Latvia1932 Posts

December 15 2016 07:34 GMT

#4230

On December 15 2016 14:55 Forikorder wrote:

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ten wizard saints were never shown to be very strong though

yeah.. they were talked about being very strong though.
they even said that the top 3 were monsters who were so strong that you can't even call them human.
but in practice they're all small-fry..

abuse

Latvia1932 Posts

December 15 2016 07:35 GMT

#4231

On December 15 2016 16:04 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Jellal and Jura were shown to be pretty strong. Makarov and Jose as well.

top 3 were said to be in a completely different league than all of them though..
Jose was friggin weak now that we think about it, if he got killed by fairy law, considering what we know about it now.

ZerOCoolSC2

8984 Posts

December 15 2016 14:59 GMT

#4232

Fairy Law is OP though.

Slaughter

United States20254 Posts

December 15 2016 15:39 GMT

#4233

The 10 wizard saints were big fish in a small pond. Only one of them is actually strong in a greater context and that is God Serena. By now probably a good chunk of the main FT people are at wizard saint strength. Gildartz has been that way for ages too. Not sure where he would rank though. Seems like maybe borderline top 4.

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

December 15 2016 16:13 GMT

#4234

On December 15 2016 16:04 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Jellal and Jura were shown to be pretty strong. Makarov and Jose as well.

jellal sure but not Jura

Slaughter

United States20254 Posts

December 15 2016 16:24 GMT

#4235

Jura has the problem of the character who is said to be strong and gets defeated to show how strong the enemy is so he always seems lack luster in practice.

I don't think Jellal is anything especially strong either though.

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

December 15 2016 20:57 GMT

#4236

On December 14 2016 10:31 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:

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Biological fits. Could replace chronological with perceived though. Since you're time of aging is changing, but not the way you naturally age. Make sense? Biologically I'm probably 2342 with the way my body feels. But I've been on Earth for 30. (If that even helps)

Yeah uh no. Apparently you don't know the meaning of these words.

ZerOCoolSC2

8984 Posts

December 15 2016 21:55 GMT

#4237

On December 16 2016 05:57 Dangermousecatdog wrote:

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Yeah uh no. Apparently you don't know the meaning of these words.

Apparently. Please, old wise one, enlighten us.

abuse

Latvia1932 Posts

December 16 2016 07:45 GMT

#4238

On December 16 2016 00:39 Slaughter wrote:
The 10 wizard saints were big fish in a small pond. Only one of them is actually strong in a greater context and that is God Serena. By now probably a good chunk of the main FT people are at wizard saint strength. Gildartz has been that way for ages too. Not sure where he would rank though. Seems like maybe borderline top 4.

so do you think that erza or natsu or gray or whatever would beat Gildartz in a 1x1?
Do you think Serena would beat Gildartz in a 1x1?

I don't think either of those would happen.
Honestly he should be way better than top 1, not top 4.
I mean several FT members have beaten the Alvarez people by now, and serena was said to be one of the weaker ones there.
Meaning FT members are much stronger than the saints.
This is a huge flaw in the anime/manga as a whole, but that's where we are, sadly.
Gildartz is the absolute strongest FT member, no contest.

I'd love to see a fight between gildartz and eileen, honestly..