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On November 12 2015 16:20 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 13:22 SupaChicken wrote: Wizard Saint is just a title. If you based it just on fighting ability then Laxus, Erza, Natsu and maybe Gray are all potential candidates.
It's like getting knighted today. It's a fancy thing you can call yourself but it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 11:33 Dark_Chill wrote: Treant dude said he was weak as fuck, but he was still #4. The wizard saints aren't completely based on fighting ability, so it could very well be that Gildartz is better in a fight. It was mentioned many times in the manga, that the wizard saints are indeed the strongest mages in the continent. The fairy tail co-founder guy/treant is also insanely strong, in his arc it was very strongly hinted that he is indeed an extremely powerful mage, he was just very humble. no he literally saids he cant fight worth shit and weve seen one of the wizard saitns get KOd multiple times
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On November 12 2015 20:21 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 16:20 abuse wrote:On November 12 2015 13:22 SupaChicken wrote: Wizard Saint is just a title. If you based it just on fighting ability then Laxus, Erza, Natsu and maybe Gray are all potential candidates.
It's like getting knighted today. It's a fancy thing you can call yourself but it doesn't necessarily mean anything. On November 12 2015 11:33 Dark_Chill wrote: Treant dude said he was weak as fuck, but he was still #4. The wizard saints aren't completely based on fighting ability, so it could very well be that Gildartz is better in a fight. It was mentioned many times in the manga, that the wizard saints are indeed the strongest mages in the continent. The fairy tail co-founder guy/treant is also insanely strong, in his arc it was very strongly hinted that he is indeed an extremely powerful mage, he was just very humble. no he literally saids he cant fight worth shit and weve seen one of the wizard saitns get KOd multiple times
which of the top4 got KOed multiple times?
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ya lets just ignore the evidence from the manga because it doesnt follow our opinion, makes total sense
which of the top4 got KOed multiple times?
i love how you have to ignore the other 6 because you realise they completely destroy your argument
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On November 12 2015 22:31 Forikorder wrote:ya lets just ignore the evidence from the manga because it doesnt follow our opinion, makes total sense i love how you have to ignore the other 6 because you realise they completely destroy your argument Have we even met 6 other wizard saints??
The only wizard saints who have legit lost a fight are Jose to Makarov, Makarov to Hades and Jellal to an etherion friendship protection powered up dragon force natsu(make what you will of that).
Jura vs Laxus is by no means disgraceful "loss" as laxus himself would be a wizard saint if not for his attitude and its iffy that Jura was trying his best.
Gildarts is referred to as the strongest mage in the west during Ice Trails but also seems to be a bit of a pain in the ass for the army/council by constantly accidentally destroying things hence why he wouldn't be given a title. The 4th gods age may have effected his physical ability to fight but he is still an immensely powerful person with a quite frankly incredible power that is surely of vast use to whichever side he is on.
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Warrod can still have super high magic but low combat potential. Magic doesn't have to have combat applications. Though I would agree he was more trolling them when he said he was weak.
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Gildarts is strong as fuck but dont forget that he got annihilated by Acnologia. He lost an arm and a leg (literally) and couldn't even return any damage to the dragon.
If we are to assume that Zeref can beat the dragon, then it stands to say that Zeref is stronger than Gildarts. If Natsu is to be able to beat Zeref, then Natsu should be exceeding Gildarts sometime soon.
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On November 13 2015 13:47 saltywet wrote: Gildarts is strong as fuck but dont forget that he got annihilated by Acnologia. He lost an arm and a leg (literally) and couldn't even return any damage to the dragon.
If we are to assume that Zeref can beat the dragon, then it stands to say that Zeref is stronger than Gildarts. If Natsu is to be able to beat Zeref, then Natsu should be exceeding Gildarts sometime soon.
Ah thats assumed? Zeref is the most powerful wizard on the planet ofc he would be superior to Gildarts. We were talking about wizard saints.
Besides, just because Natsu might be the one to finish Zeref of (if the power of love and friendship doesn't convert him and break his curse or w/e 1st) it will most likely be a one off tech or that he is hiding in his arm or just the way Natsu was built (he was created for that purpose).
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On November 13 2015 00:03 shark. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 22:31 Forikorder wrote:ya lets just ignore the evidence from the manga because it doesnt follow our opinion, makes total sense which of the top4 got KOed multiple times? i love how you have to ignore the other 6 because you realise they completely destroy your argument Have we even met 6 other wizard saints?? The only wizard saints who have legit lost a fight are Jose to Makarov, Makarov to Hades and Jellal to an etherion friendship protection powered up dragon force natsu(make what you will of that). Jura vs Laxus is by no means disgraceful "loss" as laxus himself would be a wizard saint if not for his attitude and its iffy that Jura was trying his best. Gildarts is referred to as the strongest mage in the west during Ice Trails but also seems to be a bit of a pain in the ass for the army/council by constantly accidentally destroying things hence why he wouldn't be given a title. The 4th gods age may have effected his physical ability to fight but he is still an immensely powerful person with a quite frankly incredible power that is surely of vast use to whichever side he is on. point is that weve seen tons of people who are stronger or on the same level as the 10 wizard saints
are the 10 wizard saints badasss motherfuckers? hell yes
are they the baddest motherfuckers in the country? hell no
i mean the phantom leader was a wizard saint and he got KOd by Erza like right at the start of the manga
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On November 13 2015 15:00 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2015 00:03 shark. wrote:On November 12 2015 22:31 Forikorder wrote:ya lets just ignore the evidence from the manga because it doesnt follow our opinion, makes total sense which of the top4 got KOed multiple times? i love how you have to ignore the other 6 because you realise they completely destroy your argument Have we even met 6 other wizard saints?? The only wizard saints who have legit lost a fight are Jose to Makarov, Makarov to Hades and Jellal to an etherion friendship protection powered up dragon force natsu(make what you will of that). Jura vs Laxus is by no means disgraceful "loss" as laxus himself would be a wizard saint if not for his attitude and its iffy that Jura was trying his best. Gildarts is referred to as the strongest mage in the west during Ice Trails but also seems to be a bit of a pain in the ass for the army/council by constantly accidentally destroying things hence why he wouldn't be given a title. The 4th gods age may have effected his physical ability to fight but he is still an immensely powerful person with a quite frankly incredible power that is surely of vast use to whichever side he is on. point is that weve seen tons of people who are stronger or on the same level as the 10 wizard saints are the 10 wizard saints badasss motherfuckers? hell yes are they the baddest motherfuckers in the country? hell no i mean the phantom leader was a wizard saint and he got KOd by Erza like right at the start of the manga
I seem to remember her being rekt and Makarov giving him the Fairy Law.
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On November 13 2015 15:00 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2015 00:03 shark. wrote:On November 12 2015 22:31 Forikorder wrote:ya lets just ignore the evidence from the manga because it doesnt follow our opinion, makes total sense which of the top4 got KOed multiple times? i love how you have to ignore the other 6 because you realise they completely destroy your argument Have we even met 6 other wizard saints?? The only wizard saints who have legit lost a fight are Jose to Makarov, Makarov to Hades and Jellal to an etherion friendship protection powered up dragon force natsu(make what you will of that). Jura vs Laxus is by no means disgraceful "loss" as laxus himself would be a wizard saint if not for his attitude and its iffy that Jura was trying his best. Gildarts is referred to as the strongest mage in the west during Ice Trails but also seems to be a bit of a pain in the ass for the army/council by constantly accidentally destroying things hence why he wouldn't be given a title. The 4th gods age may have effected his physical ability to fight but he is still an immensely powerful person with a quite frankly incredible power that is surely of vast use to whichever side he is on. point is that weve seen tons of people who are stronger or on the same level as the 10 wizard saints are the 10 wizard saints badasss motherfuckers? hell yes are they the baddest motherfuckers in the country? hell no i mean the phantom leader was a wizard saint and he got KOd by Erza like right at the start of the manga
the only correct assumption of the 4 you made is that the 10 wizard saints are badasses.
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On November 12 2015 22:31 Forikorder wrote:ya lets just ignore the evidence from the manga because it doesnt follow our opinion, makes total sense
I literally gave you evidence from the manga in the very post that you quoted.
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lol my man forikorder bring chaos to Fairy Tail thread. I was wondering why there was lots of posts.
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On November 13 2015 23:01 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 22:31 Forikorder wrote:ya lets just ignore the evidence from the manga because it doesnt follow our opinion, makes total sense I literally gave you evidence from the manga in the very post that you quoted. no you gave something that could be seen as possibly meanging hes able to fight, not actual evidence
he could have infinite magic power but if he cant effectively use it for combat its worthless in a fight
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Jura got promoted it seems!
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That Brandish ass...Twice? Cmon... Cool chapter otherwise! I believe the only missing piece of the puzzle is Crime Sorcière right? I guess they'll show up at some point to help Erza.
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On November 17 2015 07:37 Merany wrote: That Brandish ass...Twice? Cmon... Cool chapter otherwise! I believe the only missing piece of the puzzle is Crime Sorcière right? I guess they'll show up at some point to help Erza.
I hope they come and Mashima kills of Jellal. Only way to redeem the character after the shit show post tower of heaven.
As for Brandish, it was so nice he drew it twice.
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Wait is the new chapter out? but how. It's nov 17th, I checked yesterday and it was only supposed to be out on the 18th..
off to read!
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Lol.
to the north I will send : Levy, Elfman, Lisanna, Gajeel, Lily and Mira
to the south I will send: Natsu, Gray, Laxus, Wendy and bla bla bla,
kind of obvious which side will be more interesting and tough, lol. Especially considering that the north is where sabertooth will be aswell. Some awesome stuff can potentially happen there, I'm just surprised gajeel wasn't sent there aswell to finish off the dragonslayer package.
Also - looks like it's time to settle our dispute(after a few chapters at least) if the treant guy can fight or not.
Hype for natsuxzeref!
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