• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:17
CEST 23:17
KST 06:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting7[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO65.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)79Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition325.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119
StarCraft 2
General
Revisiting the game after10 years and wow it's bad 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting How to Block Australia, Brazil, Singapore Servers The New Patch Killed Mech!
Tourneys
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
[Interview] Grrrr... 2024 Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game BW caster Sayle BW General Discussion Map with fog of war removed for one player?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B [ASL20] Semifinal A SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Siegecraft - a new perspective
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Men's Fashion Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Series you have seen recently... Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1422 users

[The International 9] Championship Sunday! - Page 55

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 53 54 55 56 57 121 Next
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 25 2019 07:13 GMT
#1081
I would have thought LGD would have sacked their coach after last year, considering his perception of strategy was winning lanes.
LiangHao
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44212 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 07:14:02
August 25 2019 07:13 GMT
#1082
On August 25 2019 16:11 Batmankills wrote:
TI after TI, we get to know again and again, how important old players were for chinese dota. 3 years in a row, they are faltering in the crucial stages of the game.

Wings all had new players and won TI.

I think LGD(and VG this year) just failed to play to win this year and last year.

They had the skill and momentum. They just failed to perform at optimal level when needed.
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 07:13 GMT
#1083
On August 25 2019 16:12 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 16:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
Somehow xNova's interview feels heavier than Fade's. I guess the higher the stakes, the higher the emotions.

i would actually be so much more upset if i were xnova given how lgd lost the games. LGD lost in a worse way

He was, i am sensitive to this kind of emotion.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 25 2019 07:13 GMT
#1084
On August 25 2019 16:10 Musicus wrote:
Yo guys, I have no idea about the Dota scene. How come LGD (a chinese team right?) is sponsored by PSG?

It's pretty common for Chinese teams to be sponsored by Qatari organisations based in Paris.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 25 2019 07:13 GMT
#1085
Alright Liquid let's do it
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 07:14:52
August 25 2019 07:13 GMT
#1086
On August 25 2019 16:09 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 16:08 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 25 2019 16:03 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 16:02 Grettin wrote:
buh bye china. best possible finals you could ask for.

i like LGD vs OG more

the next finals may end up as one-sided series with how much momentum each team has

One team will get destroyed and fans will cry blood.

What's not to like, honestly.

I like a much more even series . I got spoiled by last years finals.

I prefer blood. LGD could have made to GF and fall an easy prey to OG.
Now it is truly even, where each side can bleed. Liquid can do it all the way through.

OG should fell scared.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 25 2019 07:13 GMT
#1087
TI 7 vs TI 8
champ can retire
6nnn
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 25 2019 07:14 GMT
#1088
We are going to keep seeing repeat winners from this year onwards. Too few new blood is coming in. The beginning of the end.
Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
August 25 2019 07:14 GMT
#1089
also, i still remember the start of last roster season after TI when that team aster was formed and everyone was hailing them as china dota face savers . I actually feel sad knowing how that story panned out in few months.,
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 25 2019 07:15 GMT
#1090
Gh is being so chill. He said he loves hearing the crowd cheer, even if the cheers aren't for his team.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
August 25 2019 07:16 GMT
#1091
On August 25 2019 16:14 babysimba wrote:
We are going to keep seeing repeat winners from this year onwards. Too few new blood is coming in. The beginning of the end.
As someone who doesn't watch Dota outside of TI anymore it seems like there's tons of new players to me.
Once you Goblak...
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 07:19:18
August 25 2019 07:16 GMT
#1092
On August 25 2019 16:16 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 16:14 babysimba wrote:
We are going to keep seeing repeat winners from this year onwards. Too few new blood is coming in. The beginning of the end.
As someone who doesn't watch Dota outside of TI anymore it seems like there's tons of new players to me.


The only players new to scene at this TI would be part of Catburger stack and few other individual players on some teams, totalling something like 5 to 8. Out of 90 players.

EDIT: fixing it.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 25 2019 07:17 GMT
#1093
On August 25 2019 16:15 Elurie wrote:
Gh is being so chill. He said he loves hearing the crowd cheer, even if the cheers aren't for his team.

He can speak whatever bluff he wants after MC pulled their asses out of game two.

I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
August 25 2019 07:17 GMT
#1094
On August 25 2019 16:13 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 16:11 Batmankills wrote:
TI after TI, we get to know again and again, how important old players were for chinese dota. 3 years in a row, they are faltering in the crucial stages of the game.

Wings all had new players and won TI.

I think LGD(and VG this year) just failed to play to win this year and last year.

They had the skill and momentum. They just failed to perform at optimal level when needed.



wings were pretty special in that regard. relating them to chinese dota feels weird to this point. They were by no means, playing methodical dota. Their picks were unconventional 90% of the time, They had 1000 different draft combinations up their arsenal and way better team synergy than any of the team in that year. I don't see any of that same quality in any of the current chinese teams.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 25 2019 07:18 GMT
#1095
Fuck dota honestly. In any case. Anything but OG. I don't even feel like caring enough to watch the game now.
The Bomber boy
Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1697 Posts
August 25 2019 07:20 GMT
#1096
This upcoming Final got to be the most wholesome one TI ever had. Two teams mostly fueled by positive motivation and comradship led by two legends who are close friends and respect the hell out of each other.

Not only will thie series result in the first two times TI champions but also probably answer the question who the GOAT of Dota is. Just remains to be seen if it will be the Danish flower or the German garbage man.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 07:21 GMT
#1097
On August 25 2019 16:13 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 16:11 Batmankills wrote:
TI after TI, we get to know again and again, how important old players were for chinese dota. 3 years in a row, they are faltering in the crucial stages of the game.

Wings all had new players and won TI.

I think LGD(and VG this year) just failed to play to win this year and last year.

They had the skill and momentum. They just failed to perform at optimal level when needed.


Because OG broke the cycle and did beat the better team at TI8, we're surprised this was a down year for China. But it's really just the Cycle with the OG Caveat.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44212 Posts
August 25 2019 07:21 GMT
#1098
On August 25 2019 16:17 Batmankills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 16:13 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 16:11 Batmankills wrote:
TI after TI, we get to know again and again, how important old players were for chinese dota. 3 years in a row, they are faltering in the crucial stages of the game.

Wings all had new players and won TI.

I think LGD(and VG this year) just failed to play to win this year and last year.

They had the skill and momentum. They just failed to perform at optimal level when needed.



wings were pretty special in that regard. relating them to chinese dota feels weird to this point. They were by no means, playing methodical dota. Their picks were unconventional 90% of the time, They had 1000 different draft combinations up their arsenal and way better team synergy than any of the team in that year. I don't see any of that same quality in any of the current chinese teams.

I only brought up wings because your point was that chinese dota didn't win because they didn't have old players on their best teams for TI. Which Wings also didn't have but they won.

Regardless if Wings won in an unconventional way they still count as chinese and no-old players. Which is the whole point of your statement.

Unless you are arguing about something else then open with a completely different statement lol
this is a quote
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 25 2019 07:21 GMT
#1099
On August 25 2019 16:16 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 16:14 babysimba wrote:
We are going to keep seeing repeat winners from this year onwards. Too few new blood is coming in. The beginning of the end.
As someone who doesn't watch Dota outside of TI anymore it seems like there's tons of new players to me.

Too much barrier of entry for new players. The gap in knowledge between tier1 players and the rest is too huge for such a deep game. No teams are willing to pick up and train new players unless they show exceptional skills in pubs. Well unless tier1 players start retiring and decide to coach new teams.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 25 2019 07:21 GMT
#1100
the post-game analysis has been really lackluster i feel this ti.
Prev 1 53 54 55 56 57 121 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h 43m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 91
Railgan 86
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 14485
Calm 2889
Larva 449
EffOrt 433
UpATreeSC 145
Dota 2
Pyrionflax184
canceldota43
Counter-Strike
Foxcn199
PGG 71
Other Games
Grubby3247
ScreaM1713
fl0m621
shahzam434
C9.Mang0170
crisheroes142
PPMD13
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 50
• davetesta21
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3733
• TFBlade749
Other Games
• imaqtpie2070
• Shiphtur334
• WagamamaTV293
• Scarra134
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
13h 43m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 12h
Safe House 2
1d 19h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Safe House 2
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.