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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 24 2019 03:19 GMT
#141
On August 24 2019 12:17 Achaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 12:15 goody153 wrote:
is alch support doable in this meta ?


what does it give you besides a wind-up stun and a mild armor reduction?

free aghanims
Neosteel Enthusiast
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 24 2019 03:19 GMT
#142
On August 24 2019 12:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 12:14 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
if you pick omni you want to win before 35minutes

as much as i hate to use nahaz-type thinking

Isn't it obvious? Omni's abilities don't actually scale that well with time, so of course you want to win with him early.

I feel like his ult scales fine. 50% status resist is also always useful. It is true that he's no tiny, enchantress, or wisp though
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-24 03:20:05
August 24 2019 03:19 GMT
#143
On August 24 2019 12:16 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 12:14 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:12 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:08 lolfail9001 wrote:
I mean, i can't call carry wisp an OG's invention, even though i must admit OG were the team that had the balls to actually pick carry wisp because their carry asked for it in second phase.
It is like you have no idea what you are actually trying to say.

I do, i don't confuse words "invent" and "use", unlike some people.
Inherently if you are the first to use it, it is your invention.

This idea does not even work in real life, see Arnold's law. No part of carry wisp is original to OG, outside of arguably laning.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44224 Posts
August 24 2019 03:19 GMT
#144
On August 24 2019 12:18 ChickenDieAlive wrote:
This Alche is looking invincible. There is nothing that can kill him in Secret's lineup atm.

tiny and WR(mid-lategame) melt Alch pretty fast
this is a quote
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 24 2019 03:19 GMT
#145
sidelane razor sucks much ass unless you're running something wonky like a 4-5 clock or a veno to lane with them
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 24 2019 03:19 GMT
#146
Baffled at how blatantly they ignored Void this draft
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44224 Posts
August 24 2019 03:20 GMT
#147
VG draft looking really slow
this is a quote
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
August 24 2019 03:20 GMT
#148
Grimstroke 30% win rate hmm.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 24 2019 03:20 GMT
#149
On August 24 2019 12:19 Shergal wrote:
Baffled at how blatantly they ignored Void this draft

The idea is that Void can't keep up with Alchemist tempo, and i tend to agree.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 24 2019 03:20 GMT
#150
secret taking another page from og's book and picking a bristle with the omni

they understand the philosophy of omni drafts
posting on liquid sites in current year
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-24 03:21:07
August 24 2019 03:20 GMT
#151
On August 24 2019 12:18 Achaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 12:16 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:14 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:12 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:08 lolfail9001 wrote:
I mean, i can't call carry wisp an OG's invention, even though i must admit OG were the team that had the balls to actually pick carry wisp because their carry asked for it in second phase.
It is like you have no idea what you are actually trying to say.

I do, i don't confuse words "invent" and "use", unlike some people.
Inherently if you are the first to use it, it is your invention.


I'll get some popcorn
There is literally nothing to see. We just have a guy that have no idea what he is saying. The other day he was trying to argue it is out of people control to make a choice, while they make the choice for RNG over something else.
LiangHao
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44224 Posts
August 24 2019 03:20 GMT
#152
ok secret gonna win this

secret has a really fast draft and VG has the stalling draft
this is a quote
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 24 2019 03:20 GMT
#153
On August 24 2019 12:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 12:17 Achaian wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:15 goody153 wrote:
is alch support doable in this meta ?


what does it give you besides a wind-up stun and a mild armor reduction?

free aghanims


you pick a support alch to farm aghs? or you put all your points into greed so that you have no good spells and your team gets run over?
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 24 2019 03:21 GMT
#154
Secret basically have no cooldowns. The only spell with a long cooldown is Freezing Field.
super gg
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 24 2019 03:21 GMT
#155
On August 24 2019 12:20 goody153 wrote:
VG draft looking really slow


how? they have the alch lol
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 24 2019 03:21 GMT
#156
On August 24 2019 12:20 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 12:18 Achaian wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:16 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:14 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:12 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:08 lolfail9001 wrote:
I mean, i can't call carry wisp an OG's invention, even though i must admit OG were the team that had the balls to actually pick carry wisp because their carry asked for it in second phase.
It is like you have no idea what you are actually trying to say.

I do, i don't confuse words "invent" and "use", unlike some people.
Inherently if you are the first to use it, it is your invention.


I'll get some popcorn
There is literally nothing to see. We just have a guy that have no idea what he is saying. The other day he was trying to argue it is out of people control to make a choice, while they make the choice for RNG over something else.

You make a hell of a lot less sense than he does, but ok.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 24 2019 03:21 GMT
#157
On August 24 2019 12:20 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 12:18 Achaian wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:16 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:14 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:12 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 24 2019 12:08 lolfail9001 wrote:
I mean, i can't call carry wisp an OG's invention, even though i must admit OG were the team that had the balls to actually pick carry wisp because their carry asked for it in second phase.
It is like you have no idea what you are actually trying to say.

I do, i don't confuse words "invent" and "use", unlike some people.
Inherently if you are the first to use it, it is your invention.


I'll get some popcorn
There is literally nothing to see. We just have a guy that have no idea what he is saying. The other day it was trying to argue it is out of people control to make a choice, while they make the choice for RNG over something else.

god i love pointless semantic arguments
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Nantrix9
Profile Joined March 2019
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-24 03:22:23
August 24 2019 03:22 GMT
#158
Never let Alch through.. Way broken.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
August 24 2019 03:22 GMT
#159
god i really dont want secret to win.

i would not be able to stand puppey advancing further.
Skol
Damned627
Profile Joined November 2016
Indonesia264 Posts
August 24 2019 03:22 GMT
#160
On August 24 2019 12:19 Shergal wrote:
Baffled at how blatantly they ignored Void this draft

Yep, I was absolutely sure Secret would last pick Void there, VG can't handle the teamfights well tbh if Secret picked Void
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