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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 12 2017 15:25 GMT
#21
Liquid > LFY for E vs W final please
then Newbee > Liquid for 2 times TI winner curse to be broken
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 12 2017 15:31 GMT
#22
LFY will stomp liquid so hard this very LR thread will be the definition of a saltmine
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-12 15:42:02
August 12 2017 15:39 GMT
#23
Also a bit of an interesting tidbit from Blitz yesterday that I just didn't realize until he mentioned it:

Top3 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 1x 2nd Seed from Groups
Top4 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups
Top6 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups + 1x 3rd Seed + 1x 4th Seed

So the Top 6 is taken completly by the teams who finished top8 in groups and ended up in upper bracket. Only EG and TNC choking out of it (both out in the round for top9th-12th) while OG and Empire are the only 2 teams that managed to get a top8 finisher, both on 7th and 8th, from the lower half of the groups.

So much for all that "groupstage doesn't matter"
Had Liquid not managed to finish top4 in groups they wouldn't be where they are today. The first game vs iG was a pure choke from them, both drafting wise as well as from a players perspective with noone showing up and I'd assume that had it been a bo7 that day Liquid wouldn't have taken a single game from iG either. Nerves got to them or whatever else.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 12 2017 16:01 GMT
#24
let's go LFY! I wouldn't mind an Sccc/faith aegis either!
The Bomber boy
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
August 12 2017 16:10 GMT
#25
On August 13 2017 00:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Also a bit of an interesting tidbit from Blitz yesterday that I just didn't realize until he mentioned it:

Top3 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 1x 2nd Seed from Groups
Top4 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups
Top6 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups + 1x 3rd Seed + 1x 4th Seed

So the Top 6 is taken completly by the teams who finished top8 in groups and ended up in upper bracket. Only EG and TNC choking out of it (both out in the round for top9th-12th) while OG and Empire are the only 2 teams that managed to get a top8 finisher, both on 7th and 8th, from the lower half of the groups.

So much for all that "groupstage doesn't matter"
Had Liquid not managed to finish top4 in groups they wouldn't be where they are today. The first game vs iG was a pure choke from them, both drafting wise as well as from a players perspective with noone showing up and I'd assume that had it been a bo7 that day Liquid wouldn't have taken a single game from iG either. Nerves got to them or whatever else.

Nothing against your overall point but Liquid did take a game off IG that day. Even on an off-day they can be pretty scary.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 12 2017 16:11 GMT
#26
Going all in on Liquid losing, so make sure to vote for Liquid
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 12 2017 16:17 GMT
#27
Let's go Liquid!
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-12 16:25:42
August 12 2017 16:24 GMT
#28
On August 13 2017 01:10 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 00:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Also a bit of an interesting tidbit from Blitz yesterday that I just didn't realize until he mentioned it:

Top3 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 1x 2nd Seed from Groups
Top4 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups
Top6 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups + 1x 3rd Seed + 1x 4th Seed

So the Top 6 is taken completly by the teams who finished top8 in groups and ended up in upper bracket. Only EG and TNC choking out of it (both out in the round for top9th-12th) while OG and Empire are the only 2 teams that managed to get a top8 finisher, both on 7th and 8th, from the lower half of the groups.

So much for all that "groupstage doesn't matter"
Had Liquid not managed to finish top4 in groups they wouldn't be where they are today. The first game vs iG was a pure choke from them, both drafting wise as well as from a players perspective with noone showing up and I'd assume that had it been a bo7 that day Liquid wouldn't have taken a single game from iG either. Nerves got to them or whatever else.

Nothing against your overall point but Liquid did take a game off IG that day. Even on an off-day they can be pretty scary.

granted and I did indeed forget about that, but that was a kotl game! Don't think iG would have repeated that mistake
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 12 2017 16:39 GMT
#29
I want all TI winner final for the Grand Final. Seeing them all root against Faith or having to watch him leap over them all will be quite momentous.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
August 12 2017 16:49 GMT
#30
tobi for finals pls
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 12 2017 16:53 GMT
#31
I just want Newbee not to win :p
The Real Power~
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 12 2017 16:56 GMT
#32
Lfy gonna stomp Liquid so hard.
secret - never again
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-12 16:57:58
August 12 2017 16:57 GMT
#33
Ya LFY looks like the better team than Liquid. I expect them too win unless Liquid can find themselves some last pick alch/brood/huskar autowins.
sprew980
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway10 Posts
August 12 2017 16:58 GMT
#34
Liquid are destined to win this since it's an odd year
Never say "oops", instead say "Ah, interesting!"
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 12 2017 16:59 GMT
#35
Nah, if you follow the cycle it's Western Team year to win it
The Real Power~
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
August 12 2017 17:01 GMT
#36
Liquid's gotten this far by forcing their own wacky meta on people: but LFY's really good and plays really tightly together, so I'm not convinced Liquid can force LFY to play their game for a whole series. I think LFY takes it in three.

But then LFY vs. Newbee for the final could be a Newbee 3-0 stomp if LFY can't switch gears fast enough. Liquid and Newbee don't play at all the same game, and that's going to be rough on LFY: I think they almost certainly lose the first game. But I think LFY's really good, and so think the final will go to five games if LFY don't just tilt out after the loss.

(If Liquid plays Newbee in the final, I have no idea what would happen.)
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 12 2017 17:03 GMT
#37
I think day9 would be a really good host if he knew more about dota
passive quaranstream fan
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 12 2017 17:09 GMT
#38
I can never follow what the hell Akke is rambling about
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
August 12 2017 17:16 GMT
#39
On August 13 2017 02:03 Artisreal wrote:
I think day9 would be a really good host if he knew more about dota

I liked him in SC, but from what I've seen at TI it's been quite lacklustre.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 12 2017 17:18 GMT
#40
Hoping for LFY to take it all
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