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nayumi
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then Newbee > Liquid for 2 times TI winner curse to be broken | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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Toadesstern
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Top3 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 1x 2nd Seed from Groups Top4 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups Top6 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups + 1x 3rd Seed + 1x 4th Seed So the Top 6 is taken completly by the teams who finished top8 in groups and ended up in upper bracket. Only EG and TNC choking out of it (both out in the round for top9th-12th) while OG and Empire are the only 2 teams that managed to get a top8 finisher, both on 7th and 8th, from the lower half of the groups. So much for all that "groupstage doesn't matter" Had Liquid not managed to finish top4 in groups they wouldn't be where they are today. The first game vs iG was a pure choke from them, both drafting wise as well as from a players perspective with noone showing up and I'd assume that had it been a bo7 that day Liquid wouldn't have taken a single game from iG either. Nerves got to them or whatever else. | ||
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Wintex
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CrazyBirdman
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On August 13 2017 00:39 Toadesstern wrote: Also a bit of an interesting tidbit from Blitz yesterday that I just didn't realize until he mentioned it: Top3 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 1x 2nd Seed from Groups Top4 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups Top6 TI: 2x 1st Seed + 2x 2nd Seed from Groups + 1x 3rd Seed + 1x 4th Seed So the Top 6 is taken completly by the teams who finished top8 in groups and ended up in upper bracket. Only EG and TNC choking out of it (both out in the round for top9th-12th) while OG and Empire are the only 2 teams that managed to get a top8 finisher, both on 7th and 8th, from the lower half of the groups. So much for all that "groupstage doesn't matter" Had Liquid not managed to finish top4 in groups they wouldn't be where they are today. The first game vs iG was a pure choke from them, both drafting wise as well as from a players perspective with noone showing up and I'd assume that had it been a bo7 that day Liquid wouldn't have taken a single game from iG either. Nerves got to them or whatever else. Nothing against your overall point but Liquid did take a game off IG that day. Even on an off-day they can be pretty scary. | ||
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tree.hugger
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Toadesstern
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On August 13 2017 01:10 CrazyBirdman wrote: Nothing against your overall point but Liquid did take a game off IG that day. Even on an off-day they can be pretty scary. granted and I did indeed forget about that, but that was a kotl game! Don't think iG would have repeated that mistake  | ||
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sprew980
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VGhost
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But then LFY vs. Newbee for the final could be a Newbee 3-0 stomp if LFY can't switch gears fast enough. Liquid and Newbee don't play at all the same game, and that's going to be rough on LFY: I think they almost certainly lose the first game. But I think LFY's really good, and so think the final will go to five games if LFY don't just tilt out after the loss. (If Liquid plays Newbee in the final, I have no idea what would happen.) | ||
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Artisreal
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Alur
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On August 13 2017 02:03 Artisreal wrote: I think day9 would be a really good host if he knew more about dota I liked him in SC, but from what I've seen at TI it's been quite lacklustre. | ||
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