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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 09 2017 03:03 GMT
#1501
On August 09 2017 11:58 N1k0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 11:54 Achaian wrote:
On August 09 2017 11:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
Well, wasn't Crit the mastermind behind's OG quick elimination right out of TI6?


Yes, which was especially puzzling to me why EG would kick PPD out after that.

Granted, PPD certainly had his share of problems during TI6, but if cr1t is not removed after this abysmal performance I'll give up all hope in EG

I mean it seems like PPD ran the team like a dictatorship, and had some beef with arteezy, so it was either or, and having ppd telling you what to do all the time might grow tiresome. But i feel like you need that dictator to win TI, at the end of the day you need a single voice calling the shots not everyone yelling and discussing what to do on the heat of the moment


Both ways can be viable. Depends on the players. People respond to certain things differently. The two easiest analogs are in the NFL.

Bill Belichick, coach of the Patriots runs a dictatorship. You do what he says or he'll cut your head off and shit down your throat.

Pete Carroll, coach of the Seahawks is the opposite. He's one of the guys, he's your best friend, cheerleader.

They're both good coaches. Some people don't respond well to being yelled at constantly, they need to be built up and happy. Other people need a hard ass boss. Neither of them are bad, just 2 ways to skin the proverbial cat.
LiquidDota Staff
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 09 2017 03:04 GMT
#1502
maybe Valve will finally fix this naked bug now
Neosteel Enthusiast
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
August 09 2017 03:04 GMT
#1503
It's going to be awkward for NS to do his flying thing when his wings are bugged out.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 09 2017 03:05 GMT
#1504
On August 09 2017 11:59 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 11:58 Shellshock wrote:
On August 09 2017 11:57 TomatoBisque wrote:
On August 09 2017 11:55 wuhan_clan wrote:
On August 09 2017 11:53 TomatoBisque wrote:
On August 09 2017 11:52 Danzo wrote:
EG has mentioned it many times there's no real leader or captain on the team, they all feel like one big team all talking during drafts and open discussion, unlike PPD where he often made the early shot calls.

this can't be true, it goes against the narrative that everything is cr1t and RTZ's fault and that sumail and Universe are perfect


I really don't know why certain players get the "all the credit and none of the blame" treatment by fanboys. And EG has a LOT of fanboys.

I think they're mostly people that started bandwagoning them around the TI5 period, so they're gonna worship the players from that roster

same thing with Miracle fanboys and OG/Liquid

Liquid has no fanboys. only true fans with passion heart and soul like a family

Coming from TL writing staff. Interesting.

please. I could never be a big enough fan of taeja to be a writer
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 09 2017 03:05 GMT
#1505
Crit KS
LiquidDota Staff
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 09 2017 03:06 GMT
#1506
--- Nuked ---
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
August 09 2017 03:06 GMT
#1507
On August 09 2017 12:03 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 11:58 N1k0 wrote:
On August 09 2017 11:54 Achaian wrote:
On August 09 2017 11:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
Well, wasn't Crit the mastermind behind's OG quick elimination right out of TI6?


Yes, which was especially puzzling to me why EG would kick PPD out after that.

Granted, PPD certainly had his share of problems during TI6, but if cr1t is not removed after this abysmal performance I'll give up all hope in EG

I mean it seems like PPD ran the team like a dictatorship, and had some beef with arteezy, so it was either or, and having ppd telling you what to do all the time might grow tiresome. But i feel like you need that dictator to win TI, at the end of the day you need a single voice calling the shots not everyone yelling and discussing what to do on the heat of the moment


Both ways can be viable. Depends on the players. People respond to certain things differently. The two easiest analogs are in the NFL.

Bill Belichick, coach of the Patriots runs a dictatorship. You do what he says or he'll cut your head off and shit down your throat.

Pete Carroll, coach of the Seahawks is the opposite. He's one of the guys, he's your best friend, cheerleader.

They're both good coaches. Some people don't respond well to being yelled at constantly, they need to be built up and happy. Other people need a hard ass boss. Neither of them are bad, just 2 ways to skin the proverbial cat.


The point is that there is always ONE voice of reason on the team. You can be a dictator or entertain your team's opinions but in the end, there is still one guy calling the shots. If the case of EG really is that there isn't a dedicated shot caller, the team is guaranteed to fail.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 09 2017 03:07 GMT
#1508
did they try sumail as 1? I also dont think much of rtz as 1
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
August 09 2017 03:08 GMT
#1509
On August 09 2017 12:03 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 11:58 N1k0 wrote:
On August 09 2017 11:54 Achaian wrote:
On August 09 2017 11:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
Well, wasn't Crit the mastermind behind's OG quick elimination right out of TI6?


Yes, which was especially puzzling to me why EG would kick PPD out after that.

Granted, PPD certainly had his share of problems during TI6, but if cr1t is not removed after this abysmal performance I'll give up all hope in EG

I mean it seems like PPD ran the team like a dictatorship, and had some beef with arteezy, so it was either or, and having ppd telling you what to do all the time might grow tiresome. But i feel like you need that dictator to win TI, at the end of the day you need a single voice calling the shots not everyone yelling and discussing what to do on the heat of the moment


Both ways can be viable. Depends on the players. People respond to certain things differently. The two easiest analogs are in the NFL.

Bill Belichick, coach of the Patriots runs a dictatorship. You do what he says or he'll cut your head off and shit down your throat.

Pete Carroll, coach of the Seahawks is the opposite. He's one of the guys, he's your best friend, cheerleader.

They're both good coaches. Some people don't respond well to being yelled at constantly, they need to be built up and happy. Other people need a hard ass boss. Neither of them are bad, just 2 ways to skin the proverbial cat.


Maybe as a coach either approach would work, but in a closed environment with just 5 guys hearing each other, I think the one voice approach is far superior. I mean, how can you think if two guys are shouting at you to do different things
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
August 09 2017 03:09 GMT
#1510
Well, that's a weird looking Nightstalker.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 09 2017 03:10 GMT
#1511
lol Empire taking game 1. Half of LR thread yesterday: "Empire so bad they can never win EG anyway."
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 09 2017 03:11 GMT
#1512
Are we seriously going to have this entire game with that nightstalker model
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 09 2017 03:11 GMT
#1513
On August 09 2017 12:11 Kishin2 wrote:
Are we seriously going to have this entire game with that nightstalker model

zai channeling singsing
rip
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
August 09 2017 03:12 GMT
#1514
singsing have been abusing that bug for awhile now. i cant believe they havent fixed it yet
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
August 09 2017 03:13 GMT
#1515
Zai definitely did enough as NS in the first night. T1 mid taken for EG. Sven's farm isn't crazy ahead yet.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
August 09 2017 03:21 GMT
#1516
EG 16 minute high ground push is my EG
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
August 09 2017 03:22 GMT
#1517
Sumail kinda fed there.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
August 09 2017 03:22 GMT
#1518
EG arrogance strikes again, no need to go back in there.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 09 2017 03:22 GMT
#1519
Sumail just jumped in and... died.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 09 2017 03:22 GMT
#1520
EG's really bad at defending their towers.
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