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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
August 13 2016 23:23 GMT
#2441
On August 14 2016 08:21 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:18 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:13 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:10 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:08 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:58 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:53 CA Infraction wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:48 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:47 hfglgg wrote:
[quote]

the thing is, fnatic hat a legitimate reason to not play with era. was just shitty ruling by valve to stick to their rules without understanding what they are for.



rules are the rules though, at the time if valve made an exception then you'd have all sorts of teams trying to look to stealth kick players and pick up last minute additions or poaching players from other teams


they already made an exception for fear.


on topic: well they finally got a dc video together!

Fear wasn't trying to play though was he? IIRC fear had basically accepted he couldn't play. Era on the hand wanted to play with his team. If fear actually wanted to play for eg Valve would have forced eg to let him play as well.


no but there was no rule how to handle replacements. for all we know they could have not invited eg because mason was not on the invite list.
in the end rules are there for a reason though and dont stand on its own. the roster stability rule is to protect the players (all of them) and with valves terrible ruling on this they killed chances of the team (because no way they would perform after that) and destroyed eras career (because no way any decent team would take him after this). valves ruling did the opposite of what it was supposed to do, it did not protect anyone but harmed everyone involved. happens when you do rules without reason.




that is actually incredibly false.


eg had played enough tournaments with mason to still qualify with him as their 5th.

xcalibur and fnatic had not played enough, therefore that's why the decision was made


i didnt know there was a threshold of tournaments you need to play. lmao
but you didnt even get my point, my point is that valve destroyed the career of the very player their rule should have protected. was stupid, valve learned by introducing substitutes for the next ti. sometimes they just need someone with half a brain to go over their selfrightous rulings.


There actually is, you have to play a certain amount of tournaments and win and have a track record of being a stable team.


With the way the rules were setup they had no choice but to enforce them as is, because if you started making exceptions then you have people who were going to start having extremely wealthy organizations like EHOME/iG/LGD/EG/etc. trying to poach the best players last minute.


nope, you just made this shit up. there was no threshhold, just stop making shit up please.

they could have easily said that fnatic had a good case to not play with era because era was sick for months and months. it wasnt a stealth kick, fnatic played with the player they played most of the tournaments before ti and bootcamped with excalibur. in fact era didnt play any tournament for a long time there because he couldnt leave his home due to his condition.
valve could have just ruled that the 4 other players case is stronger than eras and it could not be abused at all. would just have protected era like they should have done, but they didnt and throw him under the bus. good guys valve.



There actually is a threshold amount of tournaments you have to play (it is variable), you have to show a track record of stability. The number of tournaments you play is accounted for. A team that was just created 2 months pre-TI and shows decent results is not going to get a direct invite, especially with only 6 invites now.

Good job at showing your ignorance of the rules.


No they didn't, xcalibur was standing in after invites were sent. It was too late at that point. Both of you are wrong, stfu and watch the tournament.


so was mason.
sorry, you are just dumb like always and you cant even explain how wealthy organizations could abuse this because usually players arent sick for months...
dumb as always, nothing more.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2442
Skywrath is actually w33's favorite hero. even over the meepo.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Titan107
Profile Joined March 2016
30 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2443
tobiLini thank god.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2444
Skywrath can absolutely dumpster Storm at least
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2445
This will be a good start.
EZ4ENCE
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2446
Lucky we don't have EG in finals. Misery drafting is balls
Tegenaria
Profile Joined November 2011
France379 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2447
please i dont get stomped i want to see this game going late
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2448
ok so dc just picks heroes as well
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2449
This gonna be good
Neosteel Enthusiast
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2450
НАКОНЕЦ-ТО ПЕТУХ В МИД (C) NS

This is greatest TI final game on the draft alone.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#2451
This lineup is directly taken from captains draft
passive quaranstream fan
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
August 13 2016 23:25 GMT
#2452
haha what a draft, ok im back in hype mode
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 13 2016 23:25 GMT
#2453
On August 14 2016 08:23 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:21 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:18 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:13 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:10 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:08 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:58 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:53 CA Infraction wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:48 superstartran wrote:
[quote]


rules are the rules though, at the time if valve made an exception then you'd have all sorts of teams trying to look to stealth kick players and pick up last minute additions or poaching players from other teams


they already made an exception for fear.


on topic: well they finally got a dc video together!

Fear wasn't trying to play though was he? IIRC fear had basically accepted he couldn't play. Era on the hand wanted to play with his team. If fear actually wanted to play for eg Valve would have forced eg to let him play as well.


no but there was no rule how to handle replacements. for all we know they could have not invited eg because mason was not on the invite list.
in the end rules are there for a reason though and dont stand on its own. the roster stability rule is to protect the players (all of them) and with valves terrible ruling on this they killed chances of the team (because no way they would perform after that) and destroyed eras career (because no way any decent team would take him after this). valves ruling did the opposite of what it was supposed to do, it did not protect anyone but harmed everyone involved. happens when you do rules without reason.




that is actually incredibly false.


eg had played enough tournaments with mason to still qualify with him as their 5th.

xcalibur and fnatic had not played enough, therefore that's why the decision was made


i didnt know there was a threshold of tournaments you need to play. lmao
but you didnt even get my point, my point is that valve destroyed the career of the very player their rule should have protected. was stupid, valve learned by introducing substitutes for the next ti. sometimes they just need someone with half a brain to go over their selfrightous rulings.


There actually is, you have to play a certain amount of tournaments and win and have a track record of being a stable team.


With the way the rules were setup they had no choice but to enforce them as is, because if you started making exceptions then you have people who were going to start having extremely wealthy organizations like EHOME/iG/LGD/EG/etc. trying to poach the best players last minute.


nope, you just made this shit up. there was no threshhold, just stop making shit up please.

they could have easily said that fnatic had a good case to not play with era because era was sick for months and months. it wasnt a stealth kick, fnatic played with the player they played most of the tournaments before ti and bootcamped with excalibur. in fact era didnt play any tournament for a long time there because he couldnt leave his home due to his condition.
valve could have just ruled that the 4 other players case is stronger than eras and it could not be abused at all. would just have protected era like they should have done, but they didnt and throw him under the bus. good guys valve.



There actually is a threshold amount of tournaments you have to play (it is variable), you have to show a track record of stability. The number of tournaments you play is accounted for. A team that was just created 2 months pre-TI and shows decent results is not going to get a direct invite, especially with only 6 invites now.

Good job at showing your ignorance of the rules.


No they didn't, xcalibur was standing in after invites were sent. It was too late at that point. Both of you are wrong, stfu and watch the tournament.


so was mason.
sorry, you are just dumb like always and you cant even explain how wealthy organizations could abuse this because usually players arent sick for months...
dumb as always, nothing more.



Mason was playing for EG pre-invite, xcalibur was not, a simple history check shows you this. You're actually dumb if you think the situations were even remotely similar, and if you think Valve has some EG bias. Stop talking about this shit and watch Wings stomp DC. Thanks.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 13 2016 23:25 GMT
#2454
DC line up is so weak against BKBs though.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 13 2016 23:25 GMT
#2455
On August 14 2016 08:24 hfglgg wrote:
ok so dc just picks heroes as well

just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's bad
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
August 13 2016 23:25 GMT
#2456
fuck man that was such a meepo game :[
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
lega
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada290 Posts
August 13 2016 23:25 GMT
#2457
i love those teams. Don't care who wins any more.
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
August 13 2016 23:25 GMT
#2458
man this TI has been the embodiment of notail's words

everything can work
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 13 2016 23:25 GMT
#2459
OMG KotL Skywrath mid might be the most disgusting thing ever conceived
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
August 13 2016 23:25 GMT
#2460
people usually run core sky with wisps though
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