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Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 11 2016 03:29 GMT
#3021
On August 11 2016 12:28 Orome wrote:
Wth are you guys even talking about. They couldn't break hg because they fucking dove base repeatedly with their bkbs and used half their spells on void without killing him

if they don't dive base they don't get to hit the tower either because lol chrono axe eblade iceblast 5wipe. that draft can't kill a base without EG being already dead, it's not luna/sd
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3022
On August 11 2016 12:25 Shergal wrote:
my read on that game is EG and EHOME are evenly matched but that draft was literally unbeatable with EHOME's comp. the only reason they even got that far is because they completely shut down EG early and Axe had like a 16 minute blink dagger or some shit and EHOME snowballed a gold lead off that (stuff like Warlock Aghs-Refresher and shit).

Play that game 10 more times, EHOME always lose in 30.


Quoted for someone who actually understands this shit. Once Ehome lost that 1st high ground push attempt (Jugg losing Aegis without Chrono commit) Ehome was already at a disadvantage for the rest of the game. Like I said earlier, Chrono + Axe call are 2 AOE controls that Ehome have no answer for and EG has the burst dmg to follow that control. Ehome had relatively weak initiation in a beastmaster roar (which SD can counter easily). I was surprised that they pushed a lane of rax at all, nvm megas.
xXxUnseenxXx
Profile Joined March 2013
United States230 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3023
On August 11 2016 12:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 12:28 xXxUnseenxXx wrote:
On August 11 2016 12:26 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 11 2016 12:25 xXxUnseenxXx wrote:
I actually think the ogre pick is what lost it for them. The control was nice for earlier game, but I think a more solid support like WW would have been better


Game was never supposed to go that long. For either team's planning.


I agree but I just scratch my head with the decision to pick Ogre. Where did he fit in the plan? They already had rock and roar to lock people down.

LanM's general picking strategy:

1. Did they ban kunkka? If yes, wait, if no, pick kunkka.

2. Did they ban undy? If yes, pick ogre, if no, pick undy.

3. Otherwise, if pocket strategy is planned, pick ET, otherwise, pick ogre.


That might be their ultimate demise if this is true. Ogre is good but situational, not a priority support pick in this meta...
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Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3024
EHOME took the bait and took mirana, where EG got the real key heroes
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3025
On August 11 2016 12:22 cchriss wrote:
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On August 11 2016 12:20 FFGenerations wrote:
fantasy scores after that game:
old chicken (jug) 22.7
iceiceice (timber) 18
ppd (i'm almost sure he hit an ice blast somewhere in there) 20.7

I got 18.78 from icex3 23.85 from sumail and 30.76 from fenrir.


hoooly fuck. was fenrir the warlock? 30 is a mindblowing score (tho i havent seen the spreadsheet from main stage, cant find it)
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3026
On August 11 2016 12:29 MCDayC wrote:
lol you have 3 pro players calling it the game of the tournament and can't decide who is the most MVPest of the MVPS, crazy tension, fans going wild, insane finish, triple dagon + rapier, and people are actually in here complaining

As great of a game it was, it was pretty frustrating to watch at times, especially on EHOME's side.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3027
Ehome overvaluing Warlock?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3028
Okay, now EHOME lose with potm, even if hero is broken.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3029
I think ehome can still take it if they don't tilt (ice^3 looking at you).
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3030
I still think there were some super questionable item choices on EHOME that game and multiple timing windows that were missed as a result

But it's very possible to have a team play well and also make ultra-game losing plays. In fact, the better your team plays most of the game the more impressive your game-losing plays become.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3031
On August 11 2016 12:30 Kishin2 wrote:
Ehome overvaluing Warlock?

Not really, hero did work last game.

But since EG have SD now, they win the game.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
August 11 2016 03:30 GMT
#3032
second pick warlock
ehome tilted? or genius?
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Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 11 2016 03:31 GMT
#3033
On August 11 2016 12:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 12:27 superstartran wrote:
ehome draft was fine, they just made a few key mistakes that cost them the game

Diz.

I think Ehome now tilt and finish at best 4th.

Looks like you might be right. They picked warlock again, just like MVP stubbon PA pick after losing with it.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 11 2016 03:31 GMT
#3034
On August 11 2016 12:29 MCDayC wrote:
lol you have 3 pro players calling it the game of the tournament and can't decide who is the most MVPest of the MVPS, crazy tension, fans going wild, insane finish, triple dagon + rapier, and people are actually in here complaining


You are underestimating the power of salt.
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
August 11 2016 03:31 GMT
#3035
warlock wasn't the reason ehome lost the game cmon guys...
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 11 2016 03:31 GMT
#3036
Let's do the warlock jugg huskar combo yo
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 11 2016 03:32 GMT
#3037
On August 11 2016 12:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 12:29 babysimba wrote:
Soul catcher + eblade + 3 dagons

Dead timber rofl

Rofl, how pipe can even help you survive this.

Get 3 pipes at min 25, end.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 11 2016 03:32 GMT
#3038
On August 11 2016 12:31 babysimba wrote:
Let's do the warlock jugg huskar combo yo

Against the guy who is willing pick AA mid? Not sure.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 11 2016 03:32 GMT
#3039
EG ban sand king, glad to see them catching on
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
August 11 2016 03:32 GMT
#3040
shadow demon is the real hero to worry about, eg's got this
hell is other people
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