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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 09 2016 22:24 GMT
#1461
On August 10 2016 07:23 Aceace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 07:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:15 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
What good does radiance do at 70 minute

Makes morph take 5 hits to kill someone instead of 4.


I can understand to a point. Farming with your illusions while you are at base feels good. But after feeding literally 5 aghs...
Also these feeded aghs was not even necessary. I mean.. Skywrath aghs sucks. Naix aghs just for fun. Oracle good to a point. Feeding himself somewhat acceptable...

Also i hate new shiva trend too. Alch isn't the best late game carry but going "caster" with alch is the ultimate absurdity.

Skywrath aghs was actually keeping Newbee in the game closer to late game.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
August 09 2016 22:24 GMT
#1462
strongest meme game ever
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 09 2016 22:24 GMT
#1463
On August 10 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 07:22 nojok wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:20 nojok wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:18 blobrus wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:15 a-game wrote:
I miss the days when TI featured pristine quality dota. That was a good game with some big plays but also many many sloppy plays that made me feel like I was watching a pub.


You've probably just improved at dota if you're noticing mistakes more often. I'm pretty sure the general level of play has gotten much higher every year.

Then how come average MMR of EG has dropped a whole thousand since TI5?

Haha, poor RTZ, stops burning him.

I am not even kidding, pretty much everyone on EG has a lost a whole thousand of MMR since TI5. Universe was almost 8.5k during TI5, ffs.

Did we really need any proof that solo MMR was not that important?

Well, actually, i am making an argument that EG are indeed worse than TI5 EG skill-wise.

Zai >> aui makes up for the difference.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 09 2016 22:24 GMT
#1464
Damn, Kaci has worked hard this year
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
August 09 2016 22:24 GMT
#1465
Oh my Newbee vs Liquid loser going home :o
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-09 22:25:01
August 09 2016 22:24 GMT
#1466
At least secret can be milked for drama even when eliminated, what a sad fate
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11864 Posts
August 09 2016 22:24 GMT
#1467
Didn't expect anybody to lift those shuffles up in an interview.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 09 2016 22:25 GMT
#1468
On August 10 2016 07:24 Pandemona wrote:
Wow PPD "all the europeans losing and us against China again"


Well it was the same last year lol
Getting too old for this..
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 09 2016 22:25 GMT
#1469
On August 10 2016 07:24 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:22 nojok wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:20 nojok wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:18 blobrus wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:15 a-game wrote:
I miss the days when TI featured pristine quality dota. That was a good game with some big plays but also many many sloppy plays that made me feel like I was watching a pub.


You've probably just improved at dota if you're noticing mistakes more often. I'm pretty sure the general level of play has gotten much higher every year.

Then how come average MMR of EG has dropped a whole thousand since TI5?

Haha, poor RTZ, stops burning him.

I am not even kidding, pretty much everyone on EG has a lost a whole thousand of MMR since TI5. Universe was almost 8.5k during TI5, ffs.

Did we really need any proof that solo MMR was not that important?

Well, actually, i am making an argument that EG are indeed worse than TI5 EG skill-wise.

Zai >> aui makes up for the difference.

Well yeah, but even Zai can fail to carry, see TI5 Secret
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 09 2016 22:25 GMT
#1470
On August 10 2016 07:23 Aceace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 07:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:15 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
What good does radiance do at 70 minute

Makes morph take 5 hits to kill someone instead of 4.


I can understand to a point. Farming with your illusions while you are at base feels good. But after feeding literally 5 aghs...
Also these feeded aghs was not even necessary. I mean.. Skywrath aghs sucks. Naix aghs just for fun. Oracle good to a point. Feeding himself somewhat acceptable...

Also i hate new shiva trend too. Alch isn't the best late game carry but going "caster" with alch is the ultimate absurdity.


You wouldn't be saying that if SWM was on EG's team that game.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 09 2016 22:25 GMT
#1471
ppd shits on europe. I've missed this guy lol
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 09 2016 22:25 GMT
#1472
It's EG vs Ehome in the bottom of the 2 Upper Bracket of TI again. Both won 2-0.

Let's hope we can get another EG in the Upper Finals. (And maybe EG can win one this time.)
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 09 2016 22:25 GMT
#1473
EG was burying expectations, it's even better than hiding strats.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 09 2016 22:26 GMT
#1474
So, guys, over/under on amount of sand king bans come tomorrow?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
August 09 2016 22:26 GMT
#1475
Puppeyfeels
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 09 2016 22:26 GMT
#1476
Sick interview with that tower
Neosteel Enthusiast
pajoondies
Profile Joined February 2014
United States316 Posts
August 09 2016 22:26 GMT
#1477
On August 10 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 07:22 nojok wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:20 nojok wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:18 blobrus wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:15 a-game wrote:
I miss the days when TI featured pristine quality dota. That was a good game with some big plays but also many many sloppy plays that made me feel like I was watching a pub.


You've probably just improved at dota if you're noticing mistakes more often. I'm pretty sure the general level of play has gotten much higher every year.

Then how come average MMR of EG has dropped a whole thousand since TI5?

Haha, poor RTZ, stops burning him.

I am not even kidding, pretty much everyone on EG has a lost a whole thousand of MMR since TI5. Universe was almost 8.5k during TI5, ffs.

Did we really need any proof that solo MMR was not that important?

Well, actually, i am making an argument that EG are indeed worse than TI5 EG skill-wise.


your argument is counter-intuitive - if EG wins despite dropping in solo MMR over time, that shows that MMR doesn't actually prove much
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
August 09 2016 22:26 GMT
#1478
On August 10 2016 07:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 07:19 Diavlo wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:16 MetalMercury wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:15 a-game wrote:
I miss the days when TI featured pristine quality dota. That was a good game with some big plays but also many many sloppy plays that made me feel like I was watching a pub.


Rose colored glasses.

These teams are better than any team that played even last year, let alone two or three TI's ago.

Yeah, it's just that in the old days without the comeback mechanics you needed huge throws to change a game's outcome past a certain point. I remember a stat that before the changes, a 10 k gold lead at 25 minutes had like a 95% winrate at the time.

Actually this stat was even more in favor of winning team after comeback mechanics.

Alchemist sort of fucks it up, however.


I don't think so. I remember when VP threw the "biggest game ever" or when DK threw at TI4 against LGD, they were behind 25K gold with better late game. That kind of scenario happen way more often now, and not always with Alch.

I enjoy watching old games and it's quite funny seeing casters lose their shit when a kill nets a 1k gold bounty.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 09 2016 22:26 GMT
#1479
On August 10 2016 07:25 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 07:24 Pandemona wrote:
Wow PPD "all the europeans losing and us against China again"


Well it was the same last year lol


yea, it's EG tho

second best NA team is DC
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 09 2016 22:26 GMT
#1480
On August 10 2016 07:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, guys, over/under on amount of sand king bans come tomorrow?


I don't think it makes it that far. Expect him 2nd phase even the next two. The main thing is teams haven't figured out a Safelaner that can match up.
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