EPT[Nanyang Championships] Playoffs - Page 152
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babysimba
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the`postman
United States1643 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:30 trinxified wrote: cannot beat Alch late game. not surprised. that agh's on jugg did some work you can easily beat alch late game... Secret just played that horrendously | ||
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Byyk
457 Posts
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:30 lolfail9001 wrote: No one has played solid since reshuffle tbh. secret 3 in a row grand final is solid enough imo | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:35 uriel- wrote: xiao8, chuan and yao seem to disagree with you regarding this particular analysis of rubick's impacts in the fights but hey those are just some TI winners you are azarkon so I'm going to have to defer to you here as usual I don't know what they said, but they can't honestly think this was an excellent performance by Rubick. | ||
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Danzo
2820 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:34 Azarkon wrote: He turned one fight with fissure, and this was a game with five big ultimates on Secret's side. You don't pick Rubick for fissure. You pick earthshaker for that. Not that hard to understand. He didn't perform up to the level of top tier Rubicks. He turned at least 4 fights and one critical fissure to stop Secret from killing off Illusion while they were taking the mid lane raxes. Oh let's not to forget his early first bloood and numerous initiations with blink/lift. Did he make big ult plays by stealing fissure or echo slam? Well of course, tbh kinda of hard Rubick game to make le epick flashy plays. | ||
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uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:35 rabidch wrote: VG doing their traditional "we have the weaker strategy but we'll try to outplay you anyway" xiao8's stream seemed to have the consensus that secret had the advantage in lineups and only lost it due to a few questionable plays, and that they seem to still have the edge in terms of the understanding of p/b | ||
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maximrobi
Hungary347 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:33 uthgard wrote: honestly the game losing mistake was not backing up immediately after they get 1 lane of rax they underestimated the jug aghs + bf totally agree, + the AA ulti didn't hit anyone is the last 4-5 fights. That would've made so much harder for VG to kill the cores from Secret. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:36 the`postman wrote: you can easily beat alch late game... Secret just played that horrendously yeah they beat the alch, but not the jugg | ||
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Danzo
2820 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:36 babysimba wrote: AA and doom's ults are impossible to steal if the players are cautious. So I don't know what world you are living in There's still SF, Earthshaker, Bane... Every single Secret hero had big ultimates. This was THE Rubick game. Fy tried too hard to steal Doom. That was why he didn't get those other spells. He kept spell stealing EternalEnvy hoping he'd get Doom but never got it. | ||
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Exoteric
Australia2330 Posts
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goody153
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:38 Azarkon wrote: There's still SF, Earthshaker, Bane... Every single Secret hero had big ultimates. This was THE Rubick game. Fy tried too hard to steal Doom. That was why he didn't get those other spells. He kept spell stealing EternalEnvy hoping he'd get Doom but never got it. you're underestimating 0 cast point fissures so much that it's almost cute | ||
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uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:36 Azarkon wrote: I don't know what they said, but they can't honestly think this was an excellent performance by Rubick. I don't know man I guess the TI winners of this world see games differently from the azarkons seriously though they didn't say he was excellent, but pointed out multiple fights where the fissures were important as well as several key early moves including the fb and the catch on ES top slowing down the blink. Not a highlight reel performance, but nothing close to useless either. he didn't steal 20 ultimates and get 7 rampages though so you are right as usual, don't worry | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:36 babysimba wrote: AA and doom's ults are impossible to steal if the players are cautious. So I don't know what world you are living in The only time you can steal doom's ult is when everything is on CD. AA always has vortex ready. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:37 uriel- wrote: xiao8's stream seemed to have the consensus that secret had the advantage in lineups and only lost it due to a few questionable plays, and that they seem to still have the edge in terms of the understanding of p/b its really nothing new, ppd has mentioned this repeatedly | ||
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WakaDoDo
Sweden1183 Posts
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:34 Azarkon wrote: He turned one fight with fissure, and this was a game with five big ultimates on Secret's side. You don't pick Rubick for fissure. You pick earthshaker for that. Not that hard to understand. He didn't perform up to the level of top tier Rubicks. must be hard to be fy and not be able to play 10/10 every game | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On November 01 2015 20:39 Stancel wrote: you're underestimating 0 cast point fissures so much that it's almost cute He didn't even steal fissure till the later half of the game. As I said, there were multiple fights in which he chose to spell steal EternalEnvy and got only level death, scorched earth, etc. | ||
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