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Seedfan
Profile Joined July 2016
58 Posts
March 22 2017 21:31 GMT
#21
PA is such a garbage hero
fpivan15
Profile Joined February 2017
United States63 Posts
March 24 2017 12:29 GMT
#22
On March 23 2017 06:31 Seedfan wrote:
PA is such a garbage hero

yeah, but if she get 2-3 kills in early game, it's easy win for her.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
March 24 2017 18:40 GMT
#23
Personally hood first is core item for me. Magic damage is the only thing stopping this low hp agi hero from going ham early game.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
March 24 2017 19:22 GMT
#24
On March 25 2017 03:40 babysimba wrote:
Personally hood first is core item for me. Magic damage is the only thing stopping this low hp agi hero from going ham early game.

hmm i don't think i would agree

you wouldn't get the necessary stuff like vlads/deso fast enough with that and you're still vulnerable to crowdcontrol (which is one of the reasons why PA sucks since the hero is too bkb dependent )

and even with hood the hero still has shit hp .. i don't think it would help but rather it'll just slow you down (even something like echosabre would probably do better than hood since it gives survivability and damage alike) getting the stuff that help her sustain and kill people faster would just be better
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
March 28 2017 03:16 GMT
#25
On March 23 2017 01:04 neozxa wrote:
basically you need to snowball hard before their carries get silveredge bloodthorn or mkb.
hence why people build phase aquila vlads and try to end the game fast with her before she goes obsolete.
flank supports and squishy casters,and fuck things up for them in the midgame.

Also your rng needs to be on point if you want to get ez mmr.


hmm, the actual build is phase aquila deso basher nowadays tbh, no time to get vlads really

as a person that loves PA more than any hero in the game has 66% winrate with it(i play exclusively party ranked (4.5k)) and about 200 games on the hero it's sad, but I think the hero might need a rework
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1964 Posts
March 28 2017 03:30 GMT
#26
I agree that she needs a rework. Especially her ult is boring and unimaginative, and I think it makes it so that if she is ever "good" she will be far too good. I think the ult should do something cool to do with all the blood that comes. Like maybe make it a chance to bleed her opponents, which slows attack and/or movement speed, does damage over time, and prevents them from healing? Or something. I dunno.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 28 2017 04:47 GMT
#27
I think the hero is fine. Maybe some talent tweaks. The hero becomes crazy good if you're really skillful, but if skill eludes you then she's crap. I like this aspect of her. All about snowball!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-28 05:03:17
March 28 2017 05:02 GMT
#28
On March 28 2017 13:47 DucK- wrote:
I think the hero is fine. Maybe some talent tweaks. The hero becomes crazy good if you're really skillful, but if skill eludes you then she's crap. I like this aspect of her. All about snowball!

i mean the hero does works for sure but not like juggernaut , sven level kind of working or pick reliability

it's just a niche pick
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 28 2017 07:31 GMT
#29
On March 28 2017 14:02 goody153 wrote:
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On March 28 2017 13:47 DucK- wrote:
I think the hero is fine. Maybe some talent tweaks. The hero becomes crazy good if you're really skillful, but if skill eludes you then she's crap. I like this aspect of her. All about snowball!

i mean the hero does works for sure but not like juggernaut , sven level kind of working or pick reliability

it's just a niche pick


Yep. Not every hero needs to be flexible and fitting every style
BlackPinkBoombayah
Profile Joined March 2017
21 Posts
March 28 2017 10:30 GMT
#30
consider how broken magnus is this patch - magnus being so strong/broken/firstphaseban-material and still pa is not picked

really makes you think
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
March 28 2017 13:04 GMT
#31
Is this thread an elaborate ruse ?
BlackPinkBoombayah
Profile Joined March 2017
21 Posts
March 28 2017 13:07 GMT
#32
On March 28 2017 22:04 gaymon wrote:
Is this thread an elaborate ruse ?

my first thought as well. who in their right mind would consider PA too strong at the moment but then I remembered how dumb people are in general and well here we are.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4200 Posts
March 28 2017 16:15 GMT
#33
On March 21 2017 23:30 ahswtini wrote:
she has her bullshit dagger moments but thats about it

Yeah... I'm kinda reluctant to criticize her because maybe its just something I need to "l2p", but god damn, when I play support and I just gibbed by dagger, its the most unfun shit on this planet.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
March 28 2017 21:23 GMT
#34
On March 22 2017 00:58 Plansix wrote:
If you are a support in a game with PA, you need to be aware of how powerful she is and how quickly she can get to you. She is one of those heroes that it is impossible to escape if you are solo and don't have the items to deal with her. Even with a hero like CM, who has a reliable root and nuke, PA will just murder you if she can live through that. Being pretty shit at Dota, a lot of games again PA go bad because myself or people on my team feed her 2-3 free kills once she gets past the laning stage.


If PA doesn't have BKB I'm sure CM can solo her (if you don't get 1 shotted). And all you need is ghost scepter. Let her blink you root her and cast ult. Once she's un-rootted press ghost. Literally the best counter there is as a support (maybe treant is upthere too)

The root wreks mobile heros this patch with the buff.

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/phantom-assassin/matchups

sort by reverse win-rate. You see cm is actually hard-counter to some extent.
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