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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
February 01 2017 22:19 GMT
#21
Other stuff people didn't mention
If you play core usually and you are on support
you should deny like a champ
Help your hero farm under tower (e.g. you see a ranged creep under tower you hit it once so your core can last hit easily after the tower hits it twice) stack ancients etc. basically what you'd love as a core
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brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-02 01:40:31
February 02 2017 01:37 GMT
#22
On January 26 2017 17:41 babysimba wrote:
SEA cores are garbage and lack common sense. They usually play an extremely slow paced game and do not know how to grab objectives when they have an advantage. I can't count how many times I lost huge leads in SEA because they just want to farm instead of winning the game. It's like the concept of potentially ending the game <20 mins doesn't exist in their mind.

If you really insist on playing support, play heroes that can actually do shit by yourself. A snowballing ganking support like skywrath, a support that has flash farming skill and can play as a 4th core like mirana or lina, a late game orientated support that have huge impact in teamfights like earthshaker or enigma. Basically heroes that can kill stuff but more towards supports that are good late game because games tend to drag.

One thing I found useful is to put "group up" on chatwheel and spam it and ping the shit out of an objective you want to take. It's the only way to get your team to work together without bursting the fragile egos of certain SEA nationalities.


True that. SEA cores don't see killing the throne as winning the game.
Most of the times I spammed "push now" and pinging towers.

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Akara12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
164 Posts
February 02 2017 04:06 GMT
#23
Caring about meta when soloing? come on like your team is ever gonna listen to you lol.
gotnowheels
Profile Joined June 2016
Philippines51 Posts
February 28 2017 10:05 GMT
#24
I usually end up screaming on top of my lungs so that my carries will go for the objectives. If you're playing in SEA, you'll end up using the nastiest words to your team mates just to make sure they will listen to you.
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
February 28 2017 10:38 GMT
#25
how's the improving going. any example games/situations you want to talk about?
i find it pretty weird that you need to yell at people or be obnoxious to get them to do stuff.
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schmitty9800
Profile Joined August 2010
United States390 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 15:11:19
March 01 2017 15:10 GMT
#26
Well sometimes people are just in the zone about their play and have a hard time processing info that people are telling them. You've got to go along with the team. Last game I was 4 pos Slardar, and lategame I was all, "ok, let's get a smoke and go for the rosh" and lo and behold the whole team is just wandering into the Rosh pit. I could yell and scream about how it was dumb and they will be coming soon, but instead I just cast amp damage, placed a sentry outside and watched for any kind of ambush. Is it the right play? No. Is it a winning play? With your team, yes it is. (and the other team was dumb and didn't have a ward there)
gotnowheels
Profile Joined June 2016
Philippines51 Posts
March 01 2017 15:24 GMT
#27
On February 28 2017 19:38 nanaoei wrote:
how's the improving going. any example games/situations you want to talk about?
i find it pretty weird that you need to yell at people or be obnoxious to get them to do stuff.


Doing okay sir, thanks for asking! I took note all of the advised that was given to me and most of the time it does work. I just focused more on the game instead of my team mates, and always think of the best possible way to win the game. Of course it doesn't work all the time as there are just some players who's better than you, or the opposing team is just better, but it's helping since my MMR is improving. This is what I love about this forum since there are a lot of people who are willing to help and not discriminating based on my race. Also, somebody messaged me and offered a coaching and I have to pay, I'm not sure if it's legit but, I'm just surprised that there are some who are offering a paid-coaching.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7067 Posts
March 01 2017 16:27 GMT
#28
Moving this to the Strategy forum
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gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
March 08 2017 01:37 GMT
#29
As a SEA support as well, one thing you can do is to pickup 1 or 2 offlaners such as tide/darkseer/sladar as initiator/counter initiator.
In rare occasions, there are people who first pick hard support such as CM in my team (maybe it was you!) If that happens, sometimes i would prefer to go for offlaners who can initiate. Because in SEA server, offlaners are just as lacking as supports. How many times i picked the 2nd support but the rest of 3 are all carry/farmers, end up the game is just as hard because no one can easily initiate a fight.
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cykoo0
Profile Joined March 2017
5 Posts
March 21 2017 08:36 GMT
#30
I feel for you bro as I end up playing as a support in most of the games. Playing solo for years and trying to improve my MMR just like you, I would like to suggest a few things
- supports have a powerful early game, even better than carries at times, focus more on that
- spoon feed the carry in your lane by making good conversation before horn, giving last hit opportunity, asking carry not to worry about denies and fulfill that responsibility
- irritate enemy heroes in your lane by spamming spells and continuous hits
- have effective in ganks, don't enter first, don't wait for ks, don't chase if alone cuz supports are the softest targets
- lastly, appreciate your carries (its an indirect way to have a good game)
I hope these will help you, and help me too
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