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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 07 2014 03:27 GMT
#15941
huh. how could you have lost it? the enemy have no anti push and you get good initiators in puck and ES. if you can't break high ground but have a very good lead then starve them. meaning if they want to farm outside then pick them off. wait for aegis and roll in with your superior items
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 12:07:24
March 07 2014 12:06 GMT
#15942
On March 07 2014 12:27 icystorage wrote:
huh. how could you have lost it? the enemy have no anti push and you get good initiators in puck and ES. if you can't break high ground but have a very good lead then starve them. meaning if they want to farm outside then pick them off. wait for aegis and roll in with your superior items


Don't underestimate late game Sniper.
+ it could be ridiculous cask from WD which bounced from one hero to other ignoring creeps like it often happens.
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Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
March 07 2014 13:34 GMT
#15943
Think rat doto works very good in that situation. Imo.
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126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
March 07 2014 14:45 GMT
#15944
Is it worthwhile to use the Augment recipe scrolls (eg. 4 uncommons for 1 rare)? If so, how many uncommons is a rare worth, etc? And what are dota 2 item values like in general - is the general rule that commons, uncommons and rares are all 1:1, or are some more valuable than others?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 07 2014 14:46 GMT
#15945
Item values vary a lot not necessarily based on the associated rarity but on the popularity of the individual item. There are some popular uncommons that are worth more than unpopular rares.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 07 2014 15:01 GMT
#15946
I heard somewhere that Maelstrom can't have more than 1 proc active at a time due to a bug (relevant for SoF on ember). True or not true?
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 07 2014 15:08 GMT
#15947
True
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 07 2014 15:16 GMT
#15948
On March 07 2014 23:45 126Q;A1 wrote:
Is it worthwhile to use the Augment recipe scrolls (eg. 4 uncommons for 1 rare)? If so, how many uncommons is a rare worth, etc? And what are dota 2 item values like in general - is the general rule that commons, uncommons and rares are all 1:1, or are some more valuable than others?

No, some items just look better or have a nice effect. You won't get 1:1 for the same rarity of item very often. Often in trades, people talk about wanting '2 rr' for one of their rares, which stands for "2 random rares" which really means two trash rares that nobody cares about.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
March 07 2014 19:28 GMT
#15949
Thanks guys, I'll keep that in mind then.
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 08 2014 02:31 GMT
#15950
How do you guys practice for a hero? I want to practice Tinker but I'm afraid of being blamed/flamed when I do bad and I feel like it will be unfair to the guys there who'd do their best and I'm there letting them down or something. I doubt AI practice will do anything too except for getting last hits and shift queueing my skills properly.

Also, is there a record that keeps the accuracy of pros when they use Meat Hook or Mirana's Arrow? I'd like to see Dendi's lifetime hook accuracy and SingSings lifetime arrow accuracy.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
March 08 2014 03:27 GMT
#15951
On March 08 2014 11:31 SilverSkyLark wrote:
How do you guys practice for a hero? I want to practice Tinker but I'm afraid of being blamed/flamed when I do bad and I feel like it will be unfair to the guys there who'd do their best and I'm there letting them down or something. I doubt AI practice will do anything too except for getting last hits and shift queueing my skills properly.

I get some replays of pros and good pubbers who are known for their skill with the particular hero I want to learn, then I go unranked and try to emulate. No need to feel bad in unranked. Once you got one style down, learn another and try to figure out which one is best under which circumstances. Chains is easily the best Tinker in the world.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
March 08 2014 04:28 GMT
#15952
On March 08 2014 11:31 SilverSkyLark wrote:
How do you guys practice for a hero? I want to practice Tinker but I'm afraid of being blamed/flamed when I do bad and I feel like it will be unfair to the guys there who'd do their best and I'm there letting them down or something. I doubt AI practice will do anything too except for getting last hits and shift queueing my skills properly.

Also, is there a record that keeps the accuracy of pros when they use Meat Hook or Mirana's Arrow? I'd like to see Dendi's lifetime hook accuracy and SingSings lifetime arrow accuracy.

practice against ai. so many people undervalue what practicing against bots can do for people. not only can you learn all the little things about every hero by playing them repeatedly in a pressure-free game, but other things like last hitting, harassing, map awareness etc can be improved from bot games too. the only thing you have to make sure of is that when you play enough bot games and you figure out all their patterns, dont assume real players are going to do the same thing.
heroes like tinker especially need a lot of time invested in order for you to play him properly. he requires so many keys and always has to be moving around the map, meaning you should be knowing what to do and what to press like clockwork. best way to get this much practice is vs bots
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
March 08 2014 11:36 GMT
#15953
How are you supposed to stop yourself from being under leveled as AA? You wanna stand back so your ult hits lots of people, but you dont get EXP for kills this way do you? I find I'm often very under leveled as him despite having loads of assists.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 08 2014 11:52 GMT
#15954
On March 08 2014 20:36 Ryder. wrote:
How are you supposed to stop yourself from being under leveled as AA? You wanna stand back so your ult hits lots of people, but you dont get EXP for kills this way do you? I find I'm often very under leveled as him despite having loads of assists.

Just buy a midas if you are staying this far back
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 08 2014 13:10 GMT
#15955
you can jungle or take a lane in the midgame
watch aui2k play his supports
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
March 08 2014 15:24 GMT
#15956
On March 08 2014 20:36 Ryder. wrote:
How are you supposed to stop yourself from being under leveled as AA? You wanna stand back so your ult hits lots of people, but you dont get EXP for kills this way do you? I find I'm often very under leveled as him despite having loads of assists.

if you get the kill youll get experience.
also, ice blast has a short cd. you should be using it to farm lanes/push lanes across the map when it gets later into the game (mid-late)
farm up items with this while doing other stuff with your hero and youll have enough items to stay in the thick of fights.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 08 2014 15:44 GMT
#15957
Is everyone maxing E on AA nowadays?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
March 08 2014 16:21 GMT
#15958
Seems to be the most common build, but I'd say it depends on the game.

The global strat DK did that one time when Mushi played Zeus, LanM maxed vortex for the big -resistance.

Fenrir maxed coldfeet today I believe in some game, because it's still a strong nuke in early ganks with say rasta.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 08 2014 16:28 GMT
#15959
Just had a game where I was Slardar. I was with KotL, Nercophos, Chen, and Timbersaw. What I found weird was that Timbersaw went to the safelane with me - and the lanes got messed up since KoTL was mid and Necrophos was offlane (Chen was playing pokemon in the jungle). The other team was made up of Beastmaster, Nyx, PL, Wraith King, and Omniknight. I don't think the other team would be coordinated enough to chain stun burst Timbersaw had Timbersaw gone to the offlane solo. Yeah sure it will be hard for Timbersaw to farm since he can't really attempt to last hit without the danger of dying, but once the offlane gets pushed to our tower, it becomes easier for him to last hit.

Did I miss anything or is it acceptable now to see strong solo offlane heroes in the safelane? Cuz I also watched a youtube video (The one where Purge queues up in SEA Server) and Weaver went solo safelane instead of offlane.


Also, why is it that blink is rarely a top pick in Ability Draft? Twice I managed to get it when I was picking last, and I even managed to get Epicenter one time and damn that initiation was so good and cheap at the same time since I didn't have to get blink dagger.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 08 2014 18:15 GMT
#15960
The majority of Ability Draft players are awful at selecting skills, in part because many decent DotA players never actually played a game of LoD in their lives.

Blink is ok. It's a pretty good skill to pick up, it's just not on the outrageous level of some of the absolute best skills (Waveform and Shukuchi have comparable mobility in most cases that don't involve initiation while also doubling as nukes, for example).
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