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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
February 22 2014 05:40 GMT
#15701
On February 22 2014 14:21 Jonoman92 wrote:
In matchmaking lobbies are blue/pink the highest MMR and orange/brown the lowest or is it just random?

random
:)
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
February 22 2014 10:14 GMT
#15702
On February 22 2014 14:40 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 14:21 Jonoman92 wrote:
In matchmaking lobbies are blue/pink the highest MMR and orange/brown the lowest or is it just random?

random

This is not true, its based on when you started queuing. First to q gets a higher slot. In the highest/lowest MMR, this tends to be the person with the highest/lowest MMR because the search algorithm waits longer to try and find closer matches. In the middle MMR's, there isn't much difference.
more weight
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
February 22 2014 12:34 GMT
#15703
On February 22 2014 19:14 alphafuzard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 14:40 synapse wrote:
On February 22 2014 14:21 Jonoman92 wrote:
In matchmaking lobbies are blue/pink the highest MMR and orange/brown the lowest or is it just random?

random

This is not true, its based on when you started queuing. First to q gets a higher slot. In the highest/lowest MMR, this tends to be the person with the highest/lowest MMR because the search algorithm waits longer to try and find closer matches. In the middle MMR's, there isn't much difference.


And what are you basing this theory off of?
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 22 2014 12:51 GMT
#15704
Does anyone know if you play with more than 1 recruit. Let's say you recruit 1 + get recruited by one. Do you get 100% battlepoint bonus pre lvl 10? Is it possible to powerlevel accs?
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 22 2014 13:23 GMT
#15705
On February 22 2014 21:34 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 19:14 alphafuzard wrote:
On February 22 2014 14:40 synapse wrote:
On February 22 2014 14:21 Jonoman92 wrote:
In matchmaking lobbies are blue/pink the highest MMR and orange/brown the lowest or is it just random?

random

This is not true, its based on when you started queuing. First to q gets a higher slot. In the highest/lowest MMR, this tends to be the person with the highest/lowest MMR because the search algorithm waits longer to try and find closer matches. In the middle MMR's, there isn't much difference.


And what are you basing this theory off of?

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1utoq5/random_facts_about_valve_mmr_clearing_up_the/

A person tested it, decide for yourself if you accept it.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
February 22 2014 17:57 GMT
#15706
On February 21 2014 22:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
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On February 21 2014 12:32 BoZiffer wrote:
I'm looking to play some Brewmaster....Where can he play? Mid only? And how do I do play him?


Get kotl in help, go offlane 2x2 against enemy carries.
You will be happy.

Arcanes-blink, sometimes bottle.
Then it depends on how game goes, but scepter after huge upgrade for Pandas and cd reduction is ridiculously good.
Force staff, bkb, euls, ghost scepter, shivas, heart of tarrasque, even cuirass or some damage items like mkb are good.

If you sure in your power you can go even farming Panda on #1 position, get pt/armlet/dagger and be like Slardar with way more fun.

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On February 21 2014 18:11 Eriksen wrote:
On February 21 2014 12:32 BoZiffer wrote:
I'm looking to play some Brewmaster....Where can he play? Mid only? And how do I do play him?


He doesn't need a particular lane to play, all he needs is a place where he can solo farm gold & XP to maximize his teamfight potential by reaching 6 earlier. That, + Blink Dagger, and some sort of mana-boosting items, and you're good to go.

And yes usually he plays at middle lane, this in case your laning matchup will be also a melee hero.


You rarely care a lot about ranges as Panda.
Probably some dudes like Drow or Bone Fletcher can be annoying but you always can get point in W and RNG karma to succeed.


Does the skill build change much between Mid and Lanes?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
February 22 2014 18:04 GMT
#15707
Not really.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 22 2014 19:11 GMT
#15708
The one notable difference is that sidelane Panda is less likely to get Bottle, making him more likely to get Arcanes. This consequently means he's more likely to level Haze or Brawler over Stats.

Of course, this depends a lot on the game and the lanes in question.
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 22 2014 22:25 GMT
#15709
I go max clap one in brawler until lvl 10 as mid panda with bottle phase.

And max clap and passive in a sidelane. Duo offlane brew + shadow demon is superlegit 2v2 situation when they have a useless jungler like LC.

I think drums are pretty bad on brew and not worth the money. Mid go Phase + Bottle + Wand -> Blink -> Agh -> Shiva/AC/Abyssal mix. Also imo better to let someone else buy vlads. Even though Brew is a really good aura hero those items are generally slot inefficient in his case I think. Most gems will be given to him so Phase + bottle + wand + TP scroll + blink + gem + aghs is already 7 slots. So you are already starting to replace items by this phase of the game. Better let someone else get vlads/drums.

Side go Arcanes Magic wand/stick -> blink -> agh -> Shiva/AC/Abyssal mix. A bit more reasonable to go vlads here, but I would still avoid it unless you have a bad game.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 22 2014 22:41 GMT
#15710
Panda getting some love thanks to the dagger mana cost removal
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 23 2014 02:55 GMT
#15711
I actually really dislike Agha on Panda after the rework. Getting an extra skill on 2 Pandas and the usually-irrelevant Brawler on the 3rd doesn't make up for not having it upgrade CD, duration, and the stats on the Pandas.
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Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
February 23 2014 05:13 GMT
#15712
brawlers bad because the panda only has 1200 hp, it dies in a few hits by the time you get the aghs. Vlads has always been great on panda, and its a poor mans aghs anyway
In Mushi we trust
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 23 2014 11:11 GMT
#15713
I dunno, I still think aghs is the best followup for brew after blink. It might not be the most gamechanging aghs like disruptors but it's still a good upgrade. Also helps his health/mana pool if he blinks in and get disabled / instantly killed / mana burned. Can still get off his ulti most of the times. Only other followup I can see is like necro 3.

Also think vlads on him is like vlads on meepo. It's ok, not bad but not good either. You rather get someone else to get it.

I actually think shivas is the best item for panda after blink. I just don't like going straight for it after blink cause you're still squishy without any hp increasing items. Blink -> something that makes him not die in a stun after he blinks in -> shivas.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
February 23 2014 11:22 GMT
#15714
Atos.
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Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
February 23 2014 12:42 GMT
#15715
how can it be that you can hit a 3man stack in solo-que?
its quite annoying to play against such mini-parties ...
Ooooh, look at it go
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
February 23 2014 13:05 GMT
#15716
Ember vs Razor mid who wins the lane?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
February 23 2014 16:08 GMT
#15717
razor. just have to be careful that you dont get jumped at lvl 3/4 before you have stolen damage, because youll probably die. however, if you can constantly keep static linking, he cant kill you with his flame guard only and you will outfarm him
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 16:20:19
February 23 2014 16:19 GMT
#15718
On February 23 2014 20:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
Atos.


Best item in the game.

On February 23 2014 22:05 idonthinksobro wrote:
Ember vs Razor mid who wins the lane?


Razor almost never loses 1v1 to anyone.
Except probably Drow Ranger with new knockback and Weaver.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 20:37:59
February 23 2014 20:36 GMT
#15719
On February 23 2014 22:05 idonthinksobro wrote:
Ember vs Razor mid who wins the lane?

Ember loses the majority of reasonable mid matchups. There are a few exceptions that are mostly bottle-crow mid matchups or heroes that have no way to handle Flame Guard, but on the whole, his laning is quite weak unless the opponent lets you stay in lane comfortably till level 7+.

On February 24 2014 01:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 20:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
Atos.


Best item in the game.

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 22:05 idonthinksobro wrote:
Ember vs Razor mid who wins the lane?


Razor almost never loses 1v1 to anyone.
Except probably Drow Ranger with new knockback and Weaver.

There are a lot of 1v1s Razor loses, and certainly not just those 2. LD, Broodmother, Shadow Demon, etc.
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
February 23 2014 21:11 GMT
#15720
Yesterday I my laptop overheated and I got an abandon and put into low priority pool...

How long does it take to get out of low priority? Is it time based or do I have to play a certain number of unranked games before I'm out of it
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