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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
January 19 2014 13:05 GMT
#15001
On January 19 2014 21:45 CrtBalorda wrote:
So guides on the internet (whatever their worth is) say that on Io I should max Spirits first followed by Tether and I may or may not get 1 point in Overcharge. However I have been leaving Tether on lvl 1 and maxing Spirits followed by Overcharge. I feel like the buff benefit is more valuable than a 0.5s increase in slow duration. My reasoning is if I am ganking with someone a little longer slow time wont make a difference and damage reduction and atack speed simply seems better for team fights. If in team fights I would have the luxury of just making a gaint circle around the enemy while tethered I would be maxing Tether first.

I want to know what skill build is best.

Your build is right. Those guides are out of date.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
January 19 2014 13:10 GMT
#15002
You're reasoning is fine.

It's hard to recommend overcharge as second maxed skill because it hurts yourself.
Guides are often aimed at, bluntly said, bad players. Treat guides as though they were suggestions.

Also there is no single best skill build. Dota is too unpredictable to find one build that is the best in every single situation.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 19 2014 13:28 GMT
#15003
On January 19 2014 21:45 CrtBalorda wrote:
So guides on the internet (whatever their worth is) say that on Io I should max Spirits first followed by Tether and I may or may not get 1 point in Overcharge. However I have been leaving Tether on lvl 1 and maxing Spirits followed by Overcharge. I feel like the buff benefit is more valuable than a 0.5s increase in slow duration. My reasoning is if I am ganking with someone a little longer slow time wont make a difference and damage reduction and atack speed simply seems better for team fights. If in team fights I would have the luxury of just making a gaint circle around the enemy while tethered I would be maxing Tether first.

I want to know what skill build is best.


Tether one time is more than enough.
Notail was maxing W-E even when tether had stun.

So you're doing good.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
January 19 2014 17:42 GMT
#15004
I missed the game that LD and Merlini are talking about, so can somebody explain to me this shadow shaman strategy that only works on dire that they keep talking about?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
January 19 2014 17:46 GMT
#15005
On January 20 2014 02:42 TyrionSC2 wrote:
I missed the game that LD and Merlini are talking about, so can somebody explain to me this shadow shaman strategy that only works on dire that they keep talking about?


Only thing that comes to mind is the SS soloing roshan with ulti trick. Thats not Dire specific, but it is a lot easier due to rosh pit placement.
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
January 19 2014 18:55 GMT
#15006
rosh cant walk through the shaman ult, so you can trap him and solo him from the distance without taking any damage.
and since dire can walk there very easily, its easier to do from that side.
Ooooh, look at it go
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
January 19 2014 19:16 GMT
#15007
On January 20 2014 03:55 Rodberd wrote:
rosh cant walk through the shaman ult, so you can trap him and solo him from the distance without taking any damage.
and since dire can walk there very easily, its easier to do from that side.


I just said that like an hour ago ;(
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 19 2014 20:48 GMT
#15008
And rosh keeps trying to walk towards shaman without trying to kill the wards in his way?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 21:19:18
January 19 2014 21:14 GMT
#15009
On January 20 2014 05:48 ahswtini wrote:
And rosh keeps trying to walk towards shaman without trying to kill the wards in his way?

Yes, it's an AI bug.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
January 19 2014 21:20 GMT
#15010
On January 20 2014 06:14 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 05:48 ahswtini wrote:
And rosh keeps trying to walk towards shaman without trying to kill the wards in his way?

Yes, it's an AI bug. Probably has to do with the game treating Shaman as the source of the damage.


I guess its to make interaction with viper's corrosive skin work correctly. It probably isn't very easily fixable without screwing up that.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
January 19 2014 21:29 GMT
#15011
Shadow deamon is one of the few supports can still have a strong impact in late game. Illusions can siege, ulti can pierce bkb, damage amp is a fing %50 more damage. He is very good just outnerfed a little bit before 6.79
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
January 19 2014 21:59 GMT
#15012
When do pick Slark in a CM game?
我是冠军
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
January 19 2014 22:43 GMT
#15013
Looking to play with Tusk. Where is the best place to play him? How much would a mid build differ from a lane build?
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 01:07:11
January 20 2014 01:06 GMT
#15014
On January 20 2014 07:43 BoZiffer wrote:
Looking to play with Tusk. Where is the best place to play him? How much would a mid build differ from a lane build?


If you're playing some pubs, i can recommend midlane or 2v2 lane with support with stun or high dps like Skywrath Mage.

Builds are almost same probably, except thing that you're getting bottle in mid. Basilius will be more than enough for you on other lane. Get something like phase boots or pt, lothar, armlet or bkb, or both, then dps items like buriza or mkb or sustain if you're struggling. Tuskar doesn't really care about his items, he's still dealing ridiculous damage after 6.

About builds, you can max Q and E, if you're bullying opposition, but usual build is maxing Q-W i guess, with some points in sigil at 4 or 8 lvl.

On January 20 2014 06:59 Adrian_mx wrote:
When do pick Slark in a CM game?


When you want to win really hard.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
January 20 2014 01:25 GMT
#15015
lane build and mid build is pretty much the same. don't get basilius, get a bottle on side lane anyway
usually q>w>e, try to avoid leveling sigil early. snowball growth sucks but it's aoe and it's pretty strong in teamfights
generally bottle + phase/treads + wand + drums (optional urn / oov / medallion) > lothars, deso, and/or bkb
tusk is really good at smoke ganks and tp ganks because shards + snowball is so long range, so try to kill things early-midgame if you can
Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
January 20 2014 01:32 GMT
#15016
snowball is a great counter-initiation skill

it's a great spell for baiting stuns (like concoction) and then going in with impunity
dont ever say that
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 20 2014 09:11 GMT
#15017
What would happen if Rubick dueled an LC that's already in a duel? Would LC keep hitting her original target, Rubick, or both?

I managed to steal duel a few times, but I was never sure if it was smart to do that.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
January 20 2014 11:23 GMT
#15018
LC finishes the duel with the original target.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 14:13:41
January 20 2014 14:12 GMT
#15019
Sorry... wrong thread wrong everything...
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 14:26:22
January 20 2014 14:22 GMT
#15020
On January 20 2014 06:14 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 05:48 ahswtini wrote:
And rosh keeps trying to walk towards shaman without trying to kill the wards in his way?

Yes, it's an AI bug.


Can I do the same by setting up a wall of veno wards in front of him?

EDIT: Damn, I just realized I could edit this new, on-topic post, onto the previous one. Sorry.
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