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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 15 2014 00:56 GMT
#14901
Pull the eftmost large camp for the Dire Jungle at XX:52 to stack right? Where do you run to? The smaller creep camp north east of it or to the right down the river? I still can't make it stack properly.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
January 15 2014 00:59 GMT
#14902
On January 15 2014 09:56 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Pull the eftmost large camp for the Dire Jungle at XX:52 to stack right? Where do you run to? The smaller creep camp north east of it or to the right down the river? I still can't make it stack properly.

http://imgur.com/a/HpCjm#2

NE/NW/E/W are all fine directions. It's more like :53 tho, just adjust depending on what you see. Personally I dislike doing it NE because sometimes the creeps decide to hate you and just turn around early but sometimes you gotta take it.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 15 2014 01:14 GMT
#14903
On January 15 2014 09:59 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:56 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Pull the eftmost large camp for the Dire Jungle at XX:52 to stack right? Where do you run to? The smaller creep camp north east of it or to the right down the river? I still can't make it stack properly.

http://imgur.com/a/HpCjm#2

NE/NW/E/W are all fine directions. It's more like :53 tho, just adjust depending on what you see. Personally I dislike doing it NE because sometimes the creeps decide to hate you and just turn around early but sometimes you gotta take it.

Yeah, when you go beyond those trees they go "ah fuckit I'm going back"

Thanks, will try these when I get the chance.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
January 15 2014 01:21 GMT
#14904
On January 15 2014 08:42 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 07:57 Rhyme wrote:
On January 15 2014 07:48 mizU wrote:
On January 15 2014 07:46 flamewheel wrote:
nop


do any damage amps stack?
like flesh golem plus veil and orchid?


yes they all stack


fun trick of the day.

step 1 - Take an undying and a pugna
step 2 - both build blade mails
step 3 - decrep an ulted undying
step 4 - ????
step 5 - infinite scaling damage!


if only that worked
dont ever say that
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 15 2014 04:15 GMT
#14905
What happens when you cast Veil on self
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
January 15 2014 04:19 GMT
#14906
On January 15 2014 08:42 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 07:57 Rhyme wrote:
On January 15 2014 07:48 mizU wrote:
On January 15 2014 07:46 flamewheel wrote:
nop


do any damage amps stack?
like flesh golem plus veil and orchid?


yes they all stack


fun trick of the day.

step 1 - Take an undying and a pugna
step 2 - both build blade mails
step 3 - decrep an ulted undying
step 4 - ????
step 5 - infinite scaling damage!


You should instead just get Eblade Veil of Discord Orchid Huskar

When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 15 2014 06:43 GMT
#14907
On January 15 2014 13:15 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What happens when you cast Veil on self

affects area

affects enemies in area
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 15 2014 14:09 GMT
#14908
On January 15 2014 15:43 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 13:15 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What happens when you cast Veil on self

affects area

affects enemies in area

I meant double click it in the hot key. It autocasts on self? Like how force staff works?
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
January 15 2014 14:36 GMT
#14909
On January 15 2014 23:09 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 15:43 flamewheel wrote:
On January 15 2014 13:15 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What happens when you cast Veil on self

affects area

affects enemies in area

I meant double click it in the hot key. It autocasts on self? Like how force staff works?


You can't double click item or ability which has "target ground".
You can't hit yourself or allies with an ability or item which only "affects enemies".
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
January 15 2014 14:39 GMT
#14910
I feel like it would almost be faster to get a definitive answer if you just launch a bot game and try it yourself ><
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 15 2014 17:00 GMT
#14911
On January 15 2014 13:15 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What happens when you cast Veil on self

You cannot to begin with.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Baelov
Profile Joined January 2014
United States7 Posts
January 15 2014 20:03 GMT
#14912
So i play brewmaster alot and i was curious how you guys build items on him?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 15 2014 20:05 GMT
#14913
Bottle + mana boots into blink + drums (order depends on how fast you can get blink) into aghs into AC usually.

Drums first if you need the bracer and can't afford to save 2K gold, blink first if you can get it in a hurry. Unlike puck you don't really have the mana to skip boots upgrade before blink.
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Baelov
Profile Joined January 2014
United States7 Posts
January 15 2014 20:10 GMT
#14914
On January 16 2014 05:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
Bottle + mana boots into blink + drums (order depends on how fast you can get blink) into aghs into AC usually.

Drums first if you need the bracer and can't afford to save 2K gold, blink first if you can get it in a hurry. Unlike puck you don't really have the mana to skip boots upgrade before blink.


Do you recommend him mid? I usually play him in a dual lane but its hard to farm even with supports. Especially against any ranged.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 15 2014 20:13 GMT
#14915
Definitely mid. You can bully other melee mids by CSing and harassing with your nuke at the same time. Against ranged mids its a bit harder but you can still guarantee yourself farm with your nuke, and drunken brawler/haze both help mitigate harass (along with a stout shield).

Bottle crow or spam out the wave for rune control to keep your mana going for nuking the wave.

You don't necessarily win vs that many mids but your goal is to get a fast blink and a fast 6 and go kill other lanes. By the time you are 6 they can't even TP respond to your ganks because your ult can deal with basically 3 enemies single handedly.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 15 2014 22:29 GMT
#14916
On January 16 2014 05:10 Baelov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 05:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
Bottle + mana boots into blink + drums (order depends on how fast you can get blink) into aghs into AC usually.

Drums first if you need the bracer and can't afford to save 2K gold, blink first if you can get it in a hurry. Unlike puck you don't really have the mana to skip boots upgrade before blink.


Do you recommend him mid? I usually play him in a dual lane but its hard to farm even with supports. Especially against any ranged.


Dual lane with KotL, i highly recommend if you don't like mid.
They can smash every lane 2v2, except something like Balanar-Skywrath Mage probably.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 22:44:03
January 15 2014 22:36 GMT
#14917
Awful idea. You don't actually win nearly as many 2v2's as oo would have you believe due to your complete lack of hard stuns (aka they can just kill kotl over and over again if they have any stuns/nukes worth mentioning), plus you are slowing brew's level 6 substantially AND denying a perfectly useful farm lane to another hero who actually needs support.

Brew doesn't need support and benefits greatly from a fast level 6. Plus he is a ganking threat with certain early runes. In other works, Brew is a solo hero, and usually that means mid.

I suppose I should add a disclaimer that anything can work in low level pubs against awful opponents.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 22:49:30
January 15 2014 22:49 GMT
#14918
if you think kotl pl is annoying brew is a lot worse. if kotl is dying over and over again due to being out of position then hes bad. unless you went offlane you should pretty much never die as a kotl, especially on radiant side. the only exception to this is if they have a stupid hero combination like earth spirit +1 or any other combination that can actually force you out of position
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 23:37:31
January 15 2014 23:36 GMT
#14919
On January 16 2014 07:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Awful idea. You don't actually win nearly as many 2v2's as oo would have you believe due to your complete lack of hard stuns (aka they can just kill kotl over and over again if they have any stuns/nukes worth mentioning), plus you are slowing brew's level 6 substantially AND denying a perfectly useful farm lane to another hero who actually needs support.

Brew doesn't need support and benefits greatly from a fast level 6. Plus he is a ganking threat with certain early runes. In other works, Brew is a solo hero, and usually that means mid.

I suppose I should add a disclaimer that anything can work in low level pubs against awful opponents.


5k mmr dude
Going double offlane against carries - ezpz.
But it doesn't matter.

Agree about Brewmaster mid, but it's very situational.
And get arcanes pls guys, don't go for phase boots like someone does and feeds.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 23:59:15
January 15 2014 23:54 GMT
#14920
Brew+KotL is fine. Not necessarily better than Brew+CM though, since CM aura covers your needs anyway, and CM being able to lead off helps a lot for that first kill (once you get Boots advantage, it doesn't matter as much). It's more dangerous on 2v2 off-lane though because KotL is a much safer off-lane support because of his higher base MS and longer spell ranges.

On January 16 2014 07:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Brew doesn't need support and benefits greatly from a fast level 6. Plus he is a ganking threat with certain early runes. In other works, Brew is a solo hero, and usually that means mid.

The thing is, Brew vs. most solos is a stalemate at best and a big loss at worst in his harder matchups, while Brew+X lanes can be very effective 2v2 off-lane (also good safe lane, but that depends on your lineup whether you really need to put him safe lane).

A won dual lane is really not that much behind a lost solo, especially if the support picks good times to roam and allow you to get solo XP once you have an advantage.
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