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On October 12 2013 02:39 McTeazy wrote:
Why is bkb so popular on CK? He's literally the ONLY illusion based carry that I see it on. Everything else you build on him is to buff up illusions. It seems like a waste especially considering how strong his illusions are.
I guess it might be necessary for fights when your ult is down so you don't get trained but you really shoudn't be fighting without your ult.
The cooldown on CK's ult is way too big for him to function like a regular illusion carry (like PL or Naga), so he's not really an "illusion based carry" in my opinion.
He also doesn't farm well, and his skills are suited for fighting. CK has to establish an aggressive tempo to get ahead of other carries, and BKB is great for this. Considering how big the cooldown of phantasm is, I don't think avoiding fights while it's down is a good way to play the hero.
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Now I wanna try Diffusal CK. Its gotta be good right? Right?
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I like CK as 2nd position carry, I think he could be ok in a part of an agressive trilane if you have another carry who can farm 1v1 safelane. I think it's harder to draft than with naix because naix also does a very suitable 1 position so he does not give too much information when drafted early. There is also the insane mana cost of his spells which make each stun either a kill or they can easily zone you out for a good portion of time.
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Does negative armor affect your damage to allied creep.
Lets say i wanna try a lv 1-aura sf build, i will hit the creeps harder because of the minus armor, but will the other mid be able to deny more easely also ( i assume so, but sometimes screw logic)
So does -armor from an ennemy let you deny creeps more easely ( do more damage)
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On October 12 2013 04:42 Darkren wrote:
Does negative armor affect your damage to allied creep.
Lets say i wanna try a lv 1-aura sf build, i will hit the creeps harder because of the minus armor, but will the other mid be able to deny more easely also ( i assume so, but sometimes screw logic)
So does -armor from an ennemy let you deny creeps more easely ( do more damage)
The creeps armor value is for everyone. Everyone does more damage to units with negative armor.
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Ok i was a reallly fed sniper i bought a Divine rapier. Then cause i saw how awesome it was i saved up 6300 and tried to buy a second one but i lose my money and didnt get it. Help 
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On October 12 2013 06:34 jaybrundage wrote:Ok i was a reallly fed sniper i bought a Divine rapier. Then cause i saw how awesome it was i saved up 6300 and tried to buy a second one but i lose my money and didnt get it. Help
Sounds like a bug. Was it on the courier or on the ground?
If you have a match ID somebody could look it up (or we could find the match ID via your dotabuff profile  )
You are definitely allowed to buy more than 1 divine don't worry about that
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On October 12 2013 06:36 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 06:34 jaybrundage wrote:Ok i was a reallly fed sniper i bought a Divine rapier. Then cause i saw how awesome it was i saved up 6300 and tried to buy a second one but i lose my money and didnt get it. Help Sounds like a bug. Was it on the courier or on the ground? If you have a match ID somebody could look it up (or we could find the match ID via your dotabuff profile ) You are definitely allowed to buy more than 1 divine don't worry about that
I was soooo sad My dota name is JayBrundage it was the game i had like 20 something kills on sniper and we lost cause of all that wasted 6k and i died and lost my rapier and i found the match ID it was 341199264
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I watched the replay. The courier was going by the secret shop so when you bought it it bought on the courier since your hero was actually just out of range of the shop. It sat on the courier all game rofl.
Thats so unfortunate XD
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Oh God. It was terrible. The numb shock of blowing 6300 on a sweet new weapon and seeing your gold disappear and no weapon pop up on your inventory. Im surprised no one noticed it. Sucks we lost that next teamfight too and i was down 12000 gold zzzz. Thx for the help tho
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I also have another couple questions.
Concerning champ passives like for instance i was playing Phantom Assassin. The person with the little q harras the blink and the giant crit on her ult. like 450 at the end. The guide i was following (Love the intergrated guide in the game btw makes it so much easier.) didn't mention getting any crit item. So I didn't get it. We won and all but i was curious if how the crit would work. Like would your 15 percent on ult for 450 go thru and then another 25 percent would crit for idk like 240. How does that work?
Also the same question with mini stuns mini bashes is a mini bash just a proc of dmg. For sniper could i get other stunning items and they would stack.
Also whats the deal with Unique attack modiefiers is there an order for which one would come out first. Like for wind runner how do unique attack modifiers effect her?
Thanks for the help TL. Noobs like me appreciate it 
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On October 12 2013 03:29 TheYango wrote:
Radiance CK
OMG Yango is in Dota too D:
Yango drop a knowledge bomb on me :D
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Thanks to Oukka and Cry0nicS for the answer on my offlane body block question. I just still don't get it when I see a pro game where an offlane clock or something is sitting at lvl 1 just standing under his T1 isntead of trying to body block a wave and get some experience.
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On October 12 2013 10:14 jaybrundage wrote:I also have another couple questions. Concerning champ passives like for instance i was playing Phantom Assassin. The person with the little q harras the blink and the giant crit on her ult. like 450 at the end. The guide i was following (Love the intergrated guide in the game btw makes it so much easier.) didn't mention getting any crit item. So I didn't get it. We won and all but i was curious if how the crit would work. Like would your 15 percent on ult for 450 go thru and then another 25 percent would crit for idk like 240. How does that work? Also the same question with mini stuns mini bashes is a mini bash just a proc of dmg. For sniper could i get other stunning items and they would stack. Also whats the deal with Unique attack modiefiers is there an order for which one would come out first. Like for wind runner how do unique attack modifiers effect her? Thanks for the help TL. Noobs like me appreciate it
Both sources of crit will roll the chance to crit. If both proc only the higher multiplier applies; otherwise the one that procs will apply.
Sniper's stun is a buff placer. Each attack can only place one buff. You can stack it with basher and MKB I believe, but in the case where both abilities proc at once, only one will apply and it will overwrite the other.
Which is probably worse than it seems because the double proc case will, if I'm not mistaken, reset the psuedo random number generator.
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On October 12 2013 10:14 jaybrundage wrote:
Also whats the deal with Unique attack modiefiers is there an order for which one would come out first. Like for wind runner how do unique attack modifiers effect her?
The general rule is skill UAMs override item UAMs and % based UAMs will have priority but stack with normal UAMs otherwise. There are some exceptions, like skadi stacking with clinkz's searing arrows if autocasted.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apzag3wGFZRndEkza1BtRUZHUkE4QWp1aEdEVFZCUHc#gid=0
as for windrunner, her ult also reduces any extra damage from UAMs (e.g. maelstrom).
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On October 12 2013 10:42 Logo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 10:14 jaybrundage wrote:I also have another couple questions. Concerning champ passives like for instance i was playing Phantom Assassin. The person with the little q harras the blink and the giant crit on her ult. like 450 at the end. The guide i was following (Love the intergrated guide in the game btw makes it so much easier.) didn't mention getting any crit item. So I didn't get it. We won and all but i was curious if how the crit would work. Like would your 15 percent on ult for 450 go thru and then another 25 percent would crit for idk like 240. How does that work? Also the same question with mini stuns mini bashes is a mini bash just a proc of dmg. For sniper could i get other stunning items and they would stack. Also whats the deal with Unique attack modiefiers is there an order for which one would come out first. Like for wind runner how do unique attack modifiers effect her? Thanks for the help TL. Noobs like me appreciate it Both sources of crit will roll the chance to crit. If both proc only the higher multiplier applies; otherwise the one that procs will apply. Sniper's stun is a buff placer. Each attack can only place one buff. You can stack it with basher and MKB I believe, but in the case where both abilities proc at once, only one will apply and it will overwrite the other. Which is probably worse than it seems because the double proc case will, if I'm not mistaken, reset the psuedo random number generator.
On October 12 2013 17:06 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 10:14 jaybrundage wrote:
Also whats the deal with Unique attack modiefiers is there an order for which one would come out first. Like for wind runner how do unique attack modifiers effect her? The general rule is skill UAMs override item UAMs and % based UAMs will have priority but stack with normal UAMs otherwise. There are some exceptions, like skadi stacking with clinkz's searing arrows if autocasted. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apzag3wGFZRndEkza1BtRUZHUkE4QWp1aEdEVFZCUHc#gid=0as for windrunner, her ult also reduces any extra damage from UAMs (e.g. maelstrom).
Thx for both your answers. For percent UAM's you mean like a chance to proc something right?
Also another question :D
When someone Dc's from a game and it gives us permission to leave it doesn't show up on your W/L i believe. But what if you stay and play anyway. Will it count as a loss if it you see it to its end. I had a game recently that i was sniper. Someone dc and i stayed cause i was fed and it was 2v5 but we had fun I left at the end. But what if i didn't. Does it count as a loss or what happens
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if someone dcs the games still count to your win/loss. only if its before 5mins or fb or something it wont count, and in those cases it specifically says stats will not be recorded. if you stay till the end and you win, you get the win. if you lose or leave, you lose.
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I don't know if it's the case anymore but even those games where stats aren't recorded would show up as win/loss on your dotabuf profile.
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if anybody dies with in the first 5mins it will show up on dotabuff reguardless of nostats or not.
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