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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#12741
The key is, the higher your Mana pool the faster you spend mana with ult since it spends a % of your mana. So items like sheepstick that provide a ton of regen also cost you in terms of spending. I haven't run the numbers but I'm guessing it isn't possible without some cheesy stuff (shit like CM aura, Global OD aura spamming remnant, iunno that kind of stuff). Leaving ult at level 1 is definitely your best bet.

And you definitely regen mana while using ult, its just that your ult out-spends your regen pretty hard in most situations.

PS having a regen rune might allow you to fly around the map for the duration of the rune when combined with all the other shit, but that rune is less mana per second than one would like.

Alternately cheat yourself a refresher and a 99-stack of cheese and go ham lol. You can use those items in ulti.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 07 2013 20:17 GMT
#12742
On October 08 2013 00:21 eu.exodus wrote:
How do you guys deal with medusa ult in the middle of a team fight?

You build enough Eul's Scepters to keep her in the air while you win the game. Doesn't even matter how many Rapiers she has!

If we're talking post 2-3 major items, you need things like halberds/Eul's/Abyssal very badly in most cases. Straight up teamfighting a Dusa that can get her ult off is a pretty scary idea.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
October 07 2013 21:04 GMT
#12743
Naga ult yo
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Audle
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand40 Posts
October 08 2013 00:27 GMT
#12744
On October 08 2013 01:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
The key is, the higher your Mana pool the faster you spend mana with ult since it spends a % of your mana. So items like sheepstick that provide a ton of regen also cost you in terms of spending. I haven't run the numbers but I'm guessing it isn't possible without some cheesy stuff (shit like CM aura, Global OD aura spamming remnant, iunno that kind of stuff). Leaving ult at level 1 is definitely your best bet.

And you definitely regen mana while using ult, its just that your ult out-spends your regen pretty hard in most situations.

PS having a regen rune might allow you to fly around the map for the duration of the rune when combined with all the other shit, but that rune is less mana per second than one would like.

Alternately cheat yourself a refresher and a 99-stack of cheese and go ham lol. You can use those items in ulti.


Tested in a bot game (although never got a regen rune). Level 25 with 1 point in ult got me from well to mid. Void stones was no different. Same again for sheepstick, orchid, linkens and a 81 charge bloodstone. Your passive regen from Int and items definitely stops during ult.
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
October 08 2013 02:12 GMT
#12745
If you silence medusa while the mana shield is still up, does it stay up?
The Turtle Moves
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 08 2013 02:12 GMT
#12746
She can't toggle it off yes
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GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
October 08 2013 02:16 GMT
#12747
Ok, so the earlier comment about QoP jumping on Medusa and silencing her to pick her off doesn't suddenly make her squishy. That would be broken if it did lol.
The Turtle Moves
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 08 2013 05:05 GMT
#12748
how do you deal with huskar + shadow priest combo? its fucking broken.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
October 08 2013 05:31 GMT
#12749
On October 08 2013 11:16 GtC wrote:
Ok, so the earlier comment about QoP jumping on Medusa and silencing her to pick her off doesn't suddenly make her squishy. That would be broken if it did lol.


She won't be able to turn it on if you silence before though, I believe.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-08 05:32:28
October 08 2013 05:32 GMT
#12750
On October 08 2013 14:05 icystorage wrote:
how do you deal with huskar + shadow priest combo? its fucking broken.


Kill dazzle first, or get silences.

Dazzle on his own is pretty squishy, and he'll almost always save grave for someone else.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 08 2013 06:30 GMT
#12751
okay. imagine a full on 5 on 5 fight. huskar jumps in and gets graved, he doesnt care about his teammates. he usuall kills 2-3 heroes before he goes down (if he goes down).
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-08 06:58:37
October 08 2013 06:57 GMT
#12752
On October 08 2013 15:30 icystorage wrote:
okay. imagine a full on 5 on 5 fight. huskar jumps in and gets graved, he doesnt care about his teammates. he usuall kills 2-3 heroes before he goes down (if he goes down).


you need to give a replay or more information or something just saying that won't get you very much help.
items, hero composition, farm levels, etc.

obviously if your team has no disables or he's already farmed to the point where he kills everything, it doesn't really matter.

huskar only really does damage when he's low, so when he gets to that point just stun/sheep when he's graved and then right click
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 08 2013 06:59 GMT
#12753
get diffusal blade!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-08 07:52:35
October 08 2013 07:22 GMT
#12754
yeah we had a lack of disables.(OD, CM, SD, Morp and Timbersaw)

does grave go through bkb? does diffusal purge grave?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 08 2013 07:23 GMT
#12755
Purge doesn't remove Grave.
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 08 2013 08:10 GMT
#12756
On October 08 2013 15:30 icystorage wrote:
okay. imagine a full on 5 on 5 fight. huskar jumps in and gets graved, he doesnt care about his teammates. he usuall kills 2-3 heroes before he goes down (if he goes down).


Since you give no details, I answer with a pure theory craft: Pick axe!
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
October 08 2013 08:42 GMT
#12757
Does evasion work on physical spells like WD ult?
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
October 08 2013 09:40 GMT
#12758
so life steal and mark of the abyss stack? I saw it again while building my vlad in abadune
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
October 08 2013 10:33 GMT
#12759
On October 08 2013 17:10 Laserist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 15:30 icystorage wrote:
okay. imagine a full on 5 on 5 fight. huskar jumps in and gets graved, he doesnt care about his teammates. he usuall kills 2-3 heroes before he goes down (if he goes down).


Since you give no details, I answer with a pure theory craft: Pick axe!


yeah, Axe hilariously effective against Huskar
but you will still left with Axe in your team ...
Put quote here for readability
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
October 08 2013 11:39 GMT
#12760
On October 08 2013 15:59 flamewheel wrote:
get diffusal blade!

flamewheel pls
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