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GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 08:19:10
October 07 2013 08:18 GMT
#12721
Could you theoretically have sufficient mana regen to fly around the map indefinitely? Like, say, with a 6 void stone build into mass perseverance?
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 07 2013 08:20 GMT
#12722
u can get a little under halfway across the map with a fresh bloodstone (which is like 5000~7000 range? not really sure)
nice to remember for lasthitting heroes
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 07 2013 08:22 GMT
#12723
On October 07 2013 17:18 GtC wrote:
Could you theoretically have sufficient mana regen to fly around the map indefinitely? Like, say, with a 6 void stone build into mass perseverance?

sure with like 200 bloodstone charges
so basically no
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 08:23:46
October 07 2013 08:23 GMT
#12724
On October 07 2013 17:22 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 17:18 GtC wrote:
Could you theoretically have sufficient mana regen to fly around the map indefinitely? Like, say, with a 6 void stone build into mass perseverance?

sure with like 200 bloodstone charges
so basically no

You can't even with +750% mana regen? Aw...
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 07 2013 08:52 GMT
#12725
well if u leave ulti at lv1 so it uses less mana it moves at 1250 units per second and uses 10+1% mana per 100 units
so it uses 125 + 12.5% mana per second
lv2 is 187.5 + 18.75% mana per second
lv3 is 250 + 25% mana per second
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
October 07 2013 10:11 GMT
#12726
That's some sick number crunching
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
October 07 2013 12:09 GMT
#12727
ok just for clarity in dota2, does cleaving stack?

is it legit to do multiple battlefury builds?

Empower + cleave + stacking with fury?

is the only down side is that you could have had other better items?
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woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
October 07 2013 12:11 GMT
#12728
also i once saw this, I was playing ursa and was about to complete my vlads ( so still have naked mask) - courier is still ferrying the scroll but I can see my fury swipes on the creep (with the status) and can also see me life stealing. Does both of them stack?
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
October 07 2013 12:48 GMT
#12729
On October 07 2013 21:09 woreyour wrote:
ok just for clarity in dota2, does cleaving stack?

is it legit to do multiple battlefury builds?

Empower + cleave + stacking with fury?

is the only down side is that you could have had other better items?

They do stack and it can be funny in pubs but there is always a better option than a second Battlefury in serious games.
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Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
October 07 2013 13:16 GMT
#12730
It's either a bug or mistake. Fury swipes counts as a Unique Attack Modifier and shouldn't/doesn't stack with Orb based life steals (Helm of Dominator, Mask of Madness, Satanic, Morbid Mask). Whenever you're making vlads on ursa you shoudn't have the morbid mask in you inventory as it'll greatly diminish you're damage output.
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woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
October 07 2013 13:28 GMT
#12731
On October 07 2013 22:16 Baggage wrote:
It's either a bug or mistake. Fury swipes counts as a Unique Attack Modifier and shouldn't/doesn't stack with Orb based life steals (Helm of Dominator, Mask of Madness, Satanic, Morbid Mask). Whenever you're making vlads on ursa you shoudn't have the morbid mask in you inventory as it'll greatly diminish you're damage output.



yea, I know that for dota 1. But i saw it in dota 2. gotta try it again.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
October 07 2013 14:00 GMT
#12732
Maelstrom also applies fury swipes when it procs and is a confirmed bug. Haven't seen anything about lifesteal though.
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 07 2013 14:37 GMT
#12733
I am pretty sure mask and fury don't stack, will re-check this evening.
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
October 07 2013 14:46 GMT
#12734
On October 07 2013 23:37 Laserist wrote:
I am pretty sure mask and fury don't stack, will re-check this evening.

They don't

I've made that mistake
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eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
October 07 2013 15:21 GMT
#12735
How do you guys deal with medusa ult in the middle of a team fight?
6 poll is a good skill toi have
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 07 2013 15:34 GMT
#12736
On October 08 2013 00:21 eu.exodus wrote:
How do you guys deal with medusa ult in the middle of a team fight?

Hypothetically its purgeable so if you can get yourself a purge then you might be OK. Otherwise its "dont teamfight the dusa". Unless you can burst her down (depending on her build, something like qop blinking in with orchid often gives you enough time to either win the fight before her ult factors in or to burst the dusa, again depending on dusa's item choice).

Dusa isn't terribly mobile and she has to spend a TON of time farming, so it shouldn't be too hard to pick your fights (fight when she isn't there basically, or force her to waste ulti by ganking her). And last but not least, if you really don't have a choice you can just run away from the ult. It slows you but at least you aren't stunned and taking double damage or whatever.
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Vikeif
Profile Joined September 2009
126 Posts
October 07 2013 15:38 GMT
#12737
Engage in a way that lets you back off safely once she pops it and wait for it to wear off, deal with it before the fight, take out/disable the physical damage on their team right before the petrification hits, have supports not petrified and have them disable physical damage, basically don't have everyone stoned when she pops it
Eschew obfuscation
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 07 2013 15:42 GMT
#12738
On October 08 2013 00:38 Vikeif wrote:
basically don't have everyone stoned when she pops it

it's hard to do in the high and very high bracket

:>
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#12739
On October 08 2013 00:42 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 00:38 Vikeif wrote:
basically don't have everyone stoned when she pops it

it's hard to do in the high and very high bracket

:>


I see what you did there...
Audle
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand40 Posts
October 07 2013 16:05 GMT
#12740
On October 07 2013 17:18 GtC wrote:
Could you theoretically have sufficient mana regen to fly around the map indefinitely? Like, say, with a 6 void stone build into mass perseverance?


Last time I tried (A couple of patches ago) it wasn't possible. It seems you don't regen mana while channelling his ult. Also because you drain your mana at a fixed percentage you can only ever get across about half of the map.

I tested this in a bot game with cheats. Level yourself to 25, buy bloodstone + other crap and go get charges.
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