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evilfatsh1t
Australia8915 Posts
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On September 02 2013 21:29 paradoxOO9 wrote: I've just got in to playing the game and I am wondering when it would be suitable to play with all heroes? Also wondering which heroes people would recommend for new players (I have not played other MOBA games before) Play all heroes from start, there is no other way to learn them. Read spells and item descriptions, you should have basic knowledge once all of this is done. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On September 02 2013 21:29 paradoxOO9 wrote: I've just got in to playing the game and I am wondering when it would be suitable to play with all heroes? Also wondering which heroes people would recommend for new players (I have not played other MOBA games before) For beginning, I think it doesn't matter unless you wouldn't have to control more than one unit or have to cast many spells at the same time. Just stay away from invoker, meepo , chen, enchantress, beastmaster, enigma for a while and lean more towards stun/disable heroes like dragon knight, bristleback, sandking, skeleton king, drow, rubick, leshrac, bane etc.. Lastly I don't recommend to get used to invis heroes since it gives you fake sense of safety that will be a hard habit to break later on. I recommend invis heroes for my noob friends who doesn't have any intention to play the game later on. | ||
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
On September 02 2013 21:37 Laserist wrote: For beginning, I think it doesn't matter unless you wouldn't have to control more than one unit or have to cast many spells at the same time. Just stay away from invoker, meepo , chen, enchantress, beastmaster, enigma for a while and lean more towards stun/disable heroes like dragon knight, bristleback, sandking, skeleton king, drow, rubick, leshrac, bane etc.. Lastly I don't recommend to get used to invis heroes since it gives you fake sense of safety that will be a hard habit to break later on. I recommend invis heroes for my noob friends who doesn't have any intention to play the game later on. On September 02 2013 21:34 nojok wrote: Play all heroes from start, there is no other way to learn them. Read spells and item descriptions, you should have basic knowledge once all of this is done. Cheers guys, I'll do that then. I'm finding melee heroes a bit annoying to use at the moment because I tend to over commit, I guess that fades in time though? | ||
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negon
212 Posts
The heroes listed in Purge's guide are kind of okay for beginners. | ||
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Ryhzuo
New Zealand198 Posts
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
What can i do to teach a LoL guy who wants to try dota? I mean, he surely knows basic MOBA (i dont like the term either) things, but, what are the main diferences (i've never played LOL), and in what should i focus? Game mode? AP? LHP? HELP?! lol. thanks | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On September 03 2013 00:37 DV G wrote: This might not be a simple question, buy any answer is good. What can i do to teach a LoL guy who wants to try dota? I mean, he surely knows basic MOBA (i dont like the term either) things, but, what are the main diferences (i've never played LOL), and in what should i focus? Game mode? AP? LHP? HELP?! lol. thanks Believe in search: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423453 | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On September 03 2013 00:37 DV G wrote: This might not be a simple question, buy any answer is good. What can i do to teach a LoL guy who wants to try dota? I mean, he surely knows basic MOBA (i dont like the term either) things, but, what are the main diferences (i've never played LOL), and in what should i focus? Game mode? AP? LHP? HELP?! lol. thanks Some of the bigger things for transitioning between LoL and Dota -Carry TPs! --These don't exist in LoL so they may not realize how important they are in dota -You don't have infinite mana early game for spamming spells -Denying creeps is very important, not just for denying enemy exp/gold, but for controlling how far the lane pushes -Dying early game is a much bigger deal because you lose gold, so don't over commit and make sure you have map vision before you go too far into enemy territory -Towers are nowhere near as strong in Dota, so don't think just because you are sitting under a tower in the early game means you can't be killed. -Rune control is way more important than a lot of newer people realize. -Importance of pulling/stacking jungle camps to supports. | ||
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
On September 03 2013 00:45 Laserist wrote: Believe in search: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423453 Thanks again, but thats more like what i should handle him to read, i was asking more like a small guideline of what to do with him. I'll read it tho  | ||
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Excludos
Norway8276 Posts
Did they change the system lately? or did I just break it? | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8276 Posts
On September 03 2013 02:19 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Streaks don't tell you anything about the MMR system. Nor should it. But amount of games in each bracket should give you an indication. Yet after winning almost everything after my last game in it, it seems to have sunk rather than risen. Thats why I'm confused right now. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 03 2013 02:20 Excludos wrote: Nor should it. But amount of games in each bracket should give you an indication. Yet after winning almost everything after my last game in it, it seems to have sunk rather than risen. Thats why I'm confused right now. If you won a bunch of games that you were supposed to lose then the sigma of your MMR would be so high that you could easily still Q into high games, especially if you're on the high/veryhigh split. You shouldn't worry about it until your MMR settles; play some games until you're closer to winning 50/50. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On September 03 2013 02:20 Excludos wrote: Nor should it. But amount of games in each bracket should give you an indication. Yet after winning almost everything after my last game in it, it seems to have sunk rather than risen. Thats why I'm confused right now. The amount of games in each bracket slightly gives clues about where you stand, rather the "wins" in each bracket does better. You may hang on the verge of very high bracket, have lots of game there but lose most of the time which stands out you are not good enough to be there constantly. MMR is simple, you must win games you should, and you should win the games that you are not expected to win. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
Try to teach him too much and it'll backfire - do one thing at a time. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
It's actually far more important to teach someone how the general game-flow is different, how it's overall easier to move the game forward through getting kills, both solo and in setting up ganks. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
though I guess expecting a new player to be able to last hit well even if you teach him is kind of unreal, so...yeah just play the game. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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