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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 20 2013 22:09 GMT
#11501
On August 21 2013 07:08 StaraCroft wrote:
Is there a comprehensive list of stuff that bkb blocks? The last times I bought it, I bought it against doom's ult, silencers ult and snipers stun. Turns out it doesn't help against any of that. But how do I know that?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Magic_Immunity
:)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 22:13:46
August 20 2013 22:13 GMT
#11502
On August 21 2013 07:08 StaraCroft wrote:
Is there a comprehensive list of stuff that bkb blocks? The last times I bought it, I bought it against doom's ult, silencers ult and snipers stun. Turns out it doesn't help against any of that. But how do I know that?

There are a few lists around the internet such as the one just linked but the best way to figure it out is to just come across each of the exceptions one by one and learn about them the hard way.

Regarding Global Silence - if he pops GS first and then you BKB, you are no longer silenced; if you pop BKB first and then he casts GS then you become silenced as well. Similar interaction to roots from Treant's ult as well as Lone Druid's entangle.
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 20 2013 22:19 GMT
#11503
On August 21 2013 06:57 Clafou wrote:
How to stay alive in the late game as a Wisp? I'm trying the combo Wisp+CK with a friend at the moment and I'm ok in the early/mid game (nice ganks with relocate, survivability is ok too, ...) but I can't stay alive and help the carry in the late game... Any tips?


Really it's just about positioning during the fight. 90% of your contribution during that fight should just be buffing your carry with overcharge and maybe hitting people with balls. And all you need to do that is stay in tether range. So try to stay far back or in trees, or on high ground, or such things to make yourself a difficult target.

Don't be trying to run into melee range and get tether stuns off in late game if it will get you killed.
Clafou
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium921 Posts
August 20 2013 22:22 GMT
#11504
On August 21 2013 07:19 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 06:57 Clafou wrote:
How to stay alive in the late game as a Wisp? I'm trying the combo Wisp+CK with a friend at the moment and I'm ok in the early/mid game (nice ganks with relocate, survivability is ok too, ...) but I can't stay alive and help the carry in the late game... Any tips?


Really it's just about positioning during the fight. 90% of your contribution during that fight should just be buffing your carry with overcharge and maybe hitting people with balls. And all you need to do that is stay in tether range. So try to stay far back or in trees, or on high ground, or such things to make yourself a difficult target.

Don't be trying to run into melee range and get tether stuns off in late game if it will get you killed.



Thanks!
StaraCroft
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria292 Posts
August 20 2013 23:37 GMT
#11505
On August 21 2013 07:09 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 07:08 StaraCroft wrote:
Is there a comprehensive list of stuff that bkb blocks? The last times I bought it, I bought it against doom's ult, silencers ult and snipers stun. Turns out it doesn't help against any of that. But how do I know that?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Magic_Immunity

Thanks!
Follow up question: How do you deal with a lategame sniper with skull basher/mkb etc? The point where you will loose 2k+HP spamming an ability before it will actually go off between stuns.
Morton
Profile Joined July 2012
United States152 Posts
August 21 2013 01:02 GMT
#11506
On August 20 2013 21:11 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 10:55 Morton wrote:
I have recently been playing some elder titan out of pure curiosity since I NEVER see him played. He seems really fun so far but I have much trouble hitting my stomps without someone like a sven to initiate. Is this just the way the hero is, or do you guys have any tips, tricks, or meta tactics to hit good stomps?

He's really fun indeed. To land the stun, cast your astral behind the ennemy team and instantly stomp. I think he's a very strong heroe. One easy way to land stomps is eul. It's also a good farming tool on ET as it provides all the mana you need, the movement speed is also great for attacking. ET is strong early game thanks to astral and lategame thanks to this wtf aura, it's specially amazing on agi carries who counts on their agility to get armour because it means they have 0 armour if you're close to them. He's a very versatile heroe, who can initiate, scout, push, stall, good in teamfight, scales very well into lategame, just play him as a sololaner, preferably mid as it's the easiest solo lane. His weakness is that he's not really good in 1o1 but he's still hard to kill because he can escape with a good stomp.


Awesome tips, thanks so much. Scouting with spirit is also a smart idea I hadn't thoight of at all. Also i discovered shift queuing my spirit stomp combo helps so much (not a pro animation canceller).

My current build is soul ring tranqs into fast mek, finish treads then i choose either drum urn or euls, finally starting towards that almighty refresher orb.

Anyway good stuff, thanks again
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 01:12:31
August 21 2013 01:11 GMT
#11507
Follow up question: How do you deal with a lategame sniper with skull basher/mkb etc? The point where you will loose 2k+HP spamming an ability before it will actually go off between stuns.


In my (albeit limited) experience, beating a farmed sniper generally either takes an extreme tank or a long range/instant cast attacking spell, and preferably both. Some of my favorite heroes to do this with are Chaos Knight and Brewmaster, who are both good teamfighters and have methods of getting in sniper's face (brew with blink). Of course, the easiest way to deal with him is just shut him down before he gets farmed, which isn't all that hard unless the sniper has competent supports.

Edit: Tiny is also a fun one to use, because he can make sniper stun himself.
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ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
August 21 2013 10:34 GMT
#11508
In the watch tab, under live games, there is a quarter circle diagram for every team. Anyone know what it measures?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
August 21 2013 10:35 GMT
#11509
The circle is split into segments, and each segment is a tower. When a segment is missing, the tower has been taken.
ArchmageKruzer
Profile Joined August 2013
64 Posts
August 21 2013 14:48 GMT
#11510
Does ethereal blade drow work? she has high agi from her ult, and can attack with her orb...
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8914 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 14:53:52
August 21 2013 14:53 GMT
#11511
it works but its not optimal. maybe if your team is primarily comprised of ranged carries you could get it, but theres so many other items drow needs. pretty situational

is it just me or is blink different in dota 2? i swear in dota 1 blink was instant, but in dota 2 there is a slight delay because the hero has to face the direction youre blinking to. for example, in dota 1 im quite certain that you could run forward then blink backwards instantly, whereas in dota 2 your hero actually turns around to blink backwards. the turning around bit causes the blink to come off a split second later, which in many of my games has been problematic. maybe im wrong about this, but i just have this feeling that blink is slower than before
edit: blink dagger btw, not the skill
Carmine
Profile Joined September 2010
United States263 Posts
August 21 2013 15:27 GMT
#11512
I was reading this guide http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418974 and I had a question about early game items. It says I will need a mana regen item and lists a couple choices like soul ring and the urn. The part i am confused about is right after where he says "round off the early game with some BOOTS" and then I believe it says something about switching the boots to magic mode to regen a little. Does this mean I should get both the soul ring and the boots or just one or the other?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 21 2013 15:30 GMT
#11513
On August 21 2013 23:53 evilfatsh1t wrote:
it works but its not optimal. maybe if your team is primarily comprised of ranged carries you could get it, but theres so many other items drow needs. pretty situational

is it just me or is blink different in dota 2? i swear in dota 1 blink was instant, but in dota 2 there is a slight delay because the hero has to face the direction youre blinking to. for example, in dota 1 im quite certain that you could run forward then blink backwards instantly, whereas in dota 2 your hero actually turns around to blink backwards. the turning around bit causes the blink to come off a split second later, which in many of my games has been problematic. maybe im wrong about this, but i just have this feeling that blink is slower than before
edit: blink dagger btw, not the skill

You had to turn in DotA 1 as well, it's just that there are many heroes' whose turning speed never matched their turning animations (Jakiro was the biggest offender but a lot of other heroes in the game had discrepancies as well), so in many cases it looked like you were blinking without turning.
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
August 21 2013 15:35 GMT
#11514
On August 22 2013 00:27 Carmine wrote:
I was reading this guide http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418974 and I had a question about early game items. It says I will need a mana regen item and lists a couple choices like soul ring and the urn. The part i am confused about is right after where he says "round off the early game with some BOOTS" and then I believe it says something about switching the boots to magic mode to regen a little. Does this mean I should get both the soul ring and the boots or just one or the other?

Both.

If you have Treads on Agility you will get regen your health/mana faster with the regen from soulring. So you should have it on agility when you need to regen a bit and are not fighting.

To be superefficient with treads you also want to have treads on agility when you use bottle If you cast spells you want them on intelligence and then swap back to strength. But that's a bit higher level. If you watch pro games you will often see them changing the colour of their treads depending on what they do. A lot of the good antimages will swap to Intelligence right before they blink and then back to agility to farm.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
August 21 2013 16:26 GMT
#11515
Got a small noobquestion about builds for phantom lancer. I like the phantomlancer because all but 1 of his abilities are passive, so, a nubhero if u can keep urself alive until ur strong enough ofcourse.

My question :

If an illusion is created, what is copied? So, stats + autochance from weaponsskills also? Ive read somewhere that diffusalblade rox with this character becuz the difussalskill is copied to illusions also. This means the illusions do extra damage and lower the opponents mana. It basiccally criples heros to the bone. Pretty potent. So, would a maelstrom also work with illussions and if not, why not? What do illussions copy and what not?

Thx peepz
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 21 2013 16:28 GMT
#11516
On August 22 2013 01:26 govie wrote:
Got a small noobquestion about builds for phantom lancer. I like the phantomlancer because all but 1 of his abilities are passive, so, a nubhero if u can keep urself alive until ur strong enough ofcourse.

My question :

If an illusion is created, what is copied? So, stats + autochance from weaponsskills also? Ive read somewhere that diffusalblade rox with this character becuz the difussalskill is copied to illusions also. This means the illusions do extra damage and lower the opponents mana. It basiccally criples heros to the bone. Pretty potent. So, would a maelstrom also work with illussions and if not, why not? What do illussions copy and what not?

Thx peepz


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Illusions
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
August 21 2013 16:38 GMT
#11517
On August 22 2013 01:28 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 01:26 govie wrote:
Got a small noobquestion about builds for phantom lancer. I like the phantomlancer because all but 1 of his abilities are passive, so, a nubhero if u can keep urself alive until ur strong enough ofcourse.

My question :

If an illusion is created, what is copied? So, stats + autochance from weaponsskills also? Ive read somewhere that diffusalblade rox with this character becuz the difussalskill is copied to illusions also. This means the illusions do extra damage and lower the opponents mana. It basiccally criples heros to the bone. Pretty potent. So, would a maelstrom also work with illussions and if not, why not? What do illussions copy and what not?

Thx peepz


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Illusions


Thx! and sorry that i forgot to look in the liquipedia
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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
August 21 2013 17:13 GMT
#11518
How about Mirana eth blade?
I think esports is pretty nice.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
August 21 2013 17:59 GMT
#11519
On August 22 2013 01:28 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 01:26 govie wrote:
Got a small noobquestion about builds for phantom lancer. I like the phantomlancer because all but 1 of his abilities are passive, so, a nubhero if u can keep urself alive until ur strong enough ofcourse.

My question :

If an illusion is created, what is copied? So, stats + autochance from weaponsskills also? Ive read somewhere that diffusalblade rox with this character becuz the difussalskill is copied to illusions also. This means the illusions do extra damage and lower the opponents mana. It basiccally criples heros to the bone. Pretty potent. So, would a maelstrom also work with illussions and if not, why not? What do illussions copy and what not?

Thx peepz


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Illusions


Ok, so basically it duplicates difussalblade + attack and movementspeed decrease/increase threw items and spells + stats

This leaves a question about diffusalblade then : How many blades is most potent? I guess 2 Difussal blades would do quite well or is that overdoing it?

Thx in advance!
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 21 2013 18:01 GMT
#11520
Orb effects don't stack. So only one diffusal blade would work.
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