It doest really matter if you lose mid vs bs (if you lose in terms of cs, getting killed isnt in the plan). As long as you're team has wards up and he isnt able to snowball he usually loses significance really fast.

nanospartan

649 Posts

August 17 2013 17:40 GMT

#11442

Okay, what do you do about spirit breaker, counters all splitpushing and roaming, and still has crazy damage on top @_@, I love the counterplay :/

Excludos

Norway8272 Posts

August 17 2013 17:48 GMT

#11443

On August 18 2013 02:40 nanospartan wrote:
Okay, what do you do about spirit breaker, counters all splitpushing and roaming, and still has crazy damage on top @_@, I love the counterplay :/

The problem with SB is that his damage is finite. He's not a really good carry, and will get progressively weaker the later the game goes, until the point where most of his use will come from his stuns, and not his damage. He will require a lot of farm to solo anyone as the game goes on(which he most of the time will have to do to stop splitpushers). So basically: outfarm him. Once you get hex on, say NP or Tinker, he basically can't touch you anymore unless he's simply way more farmed than you.

Don't let him take off during the early game, or he will snowball hard. Don't aggressively counterpush too much in the midgame until you are sure you can handle him on your own. Aggressive warding also helps you spot him coming towards you. I can't speak for competitive games, but in pubs most SB (myself included) tend to charge very fast if they see someone out of position. Hide a guy or two right around the corner to kill him as soon as he arrives, and you'll be sure he will think twice before charging next time.

hooahah

3752 Posts

August 17 2013 18:13 GMT

#11444

ok, so Armlet Bear has been nerfed (or rather, fixed so that Armlet works as intended) - my question is, is it still feasible? Armlet is still a good item, is it worth it to go Armlet on bear? (I don't have the micro but it sounds like a lot of fun)

evilfatsh1t

Australia8913 Posts

August 17 2013 18:31 GMT

#11445

if you had the apm to utilise armlet toggling properly on bear, then maybe. but its just too hard and you pretty much need to get a vlads fairly quickly so your bear doesnt die so quickly.

Mataza

Germany5364 Posts

August 17 2013 19:48 GMT

#11446

On August 18 2013 02:40 nanospartan wrote:
Okay, what do you do about spirit breaker, counters all splitpushing and roaming, and still has crazy damage on top @_@, I love the counterplay :/

It's important to play damage control and not let him snowball into a machine of destruction.
Somewhere between laning phase and mid game spirit breaker can start ganking. One of the best ways to beat SB is to make sure his ganks are not successful.
If he can't get experience and gold from his quasi global ganks, he is just an average hero with weak teamfight presence.

To stop his ganks, I would recommend rune wards and defensive play when going far away from your towers. Strongly consider using tp scrolls to follow sb and stop his ganks. That way he has to farm on lanes like normal heroes and gets easier to handle.

xAdra

Singapore1858 Posts

August 18 2013 06:12 GMT

#11447

Why isn't Tuskarr more relevant in competitive dota? He seems like a great initiator to me.

khanofmongols

542 Posts

August 18 2013 06:49 GMT

#11448

On August 18 2013 15:12 xAdra wrote:
Why isn't Tuskarr more relevant in competitive dota? He seems like a great initiator to me.

The issue is that snowball is pretty slow and so teams can usually run from it. If you bring most of your team with you are all clumbed up for and aoe spell and if you don't you are in the middle of the enemy team like clockwork but without cogs to help you out.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

August 18 2013 06:59 GMT

#11449

He's also hard to place early game. He's not a great mid, can't off-lane, and is not a reliable freefarm carry for safe lane. His best place is probably as a 4th position support/ganker like Nyx, but he is very weak in trilane 3v3 and desperately needs levels before his ganking ability/burst damage are strong enough. The best place for him early game is as a roaming ganker as part of a dual roam with a follow-up stun--but in a competitive game this isn't guaranteed to snowball (no pun intended) the game like it does in pubs.

His lategame for a support of that role is actually pretty good (both the Frozen Sigil aura and Walrus Punch act through magic immunity).

Erasme

Bahamas15899 Posts

August 18 2013 10:59 GMT

#11450

maybe if walrus punch 'stun' would get better with levels
theres just way better heroes at what he does

graNite

Germany4434 Posts

August 18 2013 12:42 GMT

#11451

i got the item "bloodstone". what can i do with it? i cant apply it to any hero or select it anywehre else than in the list of all my items?!

ReignSupreme.

Australia4123 Posts

August 18 2013 13:16 GMT

#11452

On August 18 2013 21:42 graNite wrote:
i got the item "bloodstone". what can i do with it? i cant apply it to any hero or select it anywehre else than in the list of all my items?!

It's purely to show that you were a part of the beta for Dota2, and shows how many people you invited into the beta also (if you did do that)

ZerG~LegenD

Sweden1179 Posts

August 18 2013 13:59 GMT

#11453

I'm looking to watch some TI3 replays to get better at Dark Seer. Who played a spectacular Dark Seer this International? Any games in particular?

PassiveAce

United States18076 Posts

August 18 2013 14:01 GMT

#11454

i think bulba plays a pretty mean ds.
I know navi is also really really good with ds but lots of teams banned ds against navi.

synapse

China13814 Posts

August 18 2013 14:12 GMT

#11455

On August 18 2013 21:42 graNite wrote:
i got the item "bloodstone". what can i do with it? i cant apply it to any hero or select it anywehre else than in the list of all my items?!

just a beta trophy