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HeadlessWonder
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1096 Posts
August 05 2013 00:46 GMT
#21
Wow. Thanks for the info! I'm finding these guides quite helpful as I peruse through TI3 streams
CIS Doto
Zyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands564 Posts
August 05 2013 00:49 GMT
#22
Thanks for these! Good write-up.
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DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
August 05 2013 01:00 GMT
#23
On August 05 2013 09:42 Nakwa wrote:
Short guide to dota2:

Don't make mistakes, force the other team to make mistakes, keep control and pressure.


That is like saying short guide to starcraft: win engagements, gather more resouces, and spend them appropriately, its not exactly helpful to a beginner.
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OomJan
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Germany26 Posts
August 05 2013 02:00 GMT
#24
Just what I needed. Thanks for the lovely article! <3
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jnsjr
Profile Joined February 2011
United States461 Posts
August 05 2013 02:11 GMT
#25
Thanks for these articles mate. Very new to Dota2 and they help alot!
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 05 2013 02:50 GMT
#26
Thanks for this article and the other one as well, awesome stuff
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
August 05 2013 05:06 GMT
#27
Excellent, as somebody just starting to play dota.
MaBe
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States97 Posts
August 05 2013 05:16 GMT
#28
Glad to see TL.net is trying to educate noobs, instead of forsaking them for what they do not know.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 07:18:25
August 05 2013 05:33 GMT
#29
I feel like its a bit overcomplicated (well maybe just too much) for a newcomer but i mean, its an article so you had to add some depth and if they are going to watch TI3, reading that isnt much of a problem anyway.

I understand it as i play the other moba that should not be named though.

Still dont have a damn clue about heroes / items though, which is the biggest thing when it comes to fully understanding a moba. Recommend using a Dota wiki for any heroes / items you dont recognise while watching TI3.
When you can start saying "Ahh lich's ult just bounces around and fucks people up or Ok so blink dagger lets them teleport every X seconds" instead of. Wtf is that ball of ice? How did the champ just warp across the screen?!?!! things start to make more sense lol.

*Lich used because he's like 1 of 2 heroes i learnt to play in dota.
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theazntiger
Profile Joined May 2012
13 Posts
August 05 2013 05:35 GMT
#30
Excellent guide - I love how there are some SC2 references in it to help new SC2 players to dota. I feel that it is missing an important concept though: counter pushing and team fight. EG. some hero are better at team fighting with large AoE disables and teams should follow up on these disables (many times I have played and some people don't follow up with the team initiating)
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 05 2013 05:53 GMT
#31
On August 05 2013 14:33 Capped wrote:
I feel like its a bit overcomplicated (well maybe just too much) for a newcomer but i mean, its an article so you had to add some depth and if they are going to watch TI3, reading that isnt much of a problem anyway.

I understand it as i play the other moba that should not be named though.

Still dont have a damn clue about heroes / items though, which is the biggest thing when it comes to fully understanding a moba. Recommend using a Dota wiki for any heroes / items you dont recognise while watching TI3.
When you can start saying "Ahh lich's ult just bounces around and fucks people up or Ok so blink dagger lets them teleport every X seconds" instead of. Wtf is that ball of ice? How did the champ just warp across the screen?!?!! things start to make more sense lol.

*Lich used because he's like 1 of 2 champs i learnt to play in dota.

lol Don't call Lich champ.

If you don't really know about heroes and items, you shouldn't expect to learn about it when watching the highest level of plays in TI, because it doesn't mean to teach you.

Anyway, I know what you mean. It's kind of overwhelming when you don't really know about it. What they should do is making an article that summarize the popular heroes for the last 2 days, their usefulness, skills, item builds,.v..v.v so that people can start to learn about the actual gameplay instead of random rant assuming people are retards.
holy penis
Profile Joined August 2013
China4 Posts
August 05 2013 05:55 GMT
#32
虽然不知道在说什么,但是感觉很厉害的样子

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holy penis
Profile Joined August 2013
China4 Posts
August 05 2013 05:59 GMT
#33
hope your band will make a differience
but the victory is still belonging to chinese!
and world players need chinese bands to bring something new
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GoodRiot
Profile Joined September 2011
United States75 Posts
August 05 2013 06:42 GMT
#34
Going to try to learn this very well made game, thanks!
Bogeyman
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden307 Posts
August 05 2013 06:49 GMT
#35
Nice write-up shosty!

Granted you're only going into the basics for now, but I expected at least a mention of split push.
Regardless, I'm looking forward to see what comes of this.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 05 2013 07:21 GMT
#36
Dota2 for SC2 Players:

Dota2 is just like a basetrade scenario with both sides having Swarmhosts in their main and only a few templarraveninfestorviperdtghosthybrids left.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 05 2013 07:28 GMT
#37
Very nice read, I've been playing some Dota2 but with very limited knowledge of what's going on. At my level, kills and farm is more important than the strategic aspect shown here.
maru lover forever
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
August 05 2013 07:39 GMT
#38
cool article. really would like to see an in-depth one that explains the meta as i find that to be the most difficult/confusing part of the game
MekTypro
Profile Joined July 2010
France360 Posts
August 05 2013 07:43 GMT
#39
Nice article, as a SC2 players I find it really helpful.

If there are more to come, I think it would help even more if there was more detailled diagrams showing everything that has been said (+ picture of heroes ?). Or maybe to a small presentation of the most played heroes with their skills (or maybe typical spells, terms used to refer to a spell (I know blink would be one of those term)).
I think the most difficult thing to understand while watching a Dota2 game is team fights, every hero cast all of his spells, something happens, then one team leads (I remember watching TI1 with tobi commentating, I knew as much as I do today and I couldn't understand a thing with tobi talking so fast and using spell's name, etc.)

Thx again, good job TL !
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
August 05 2013 08:07 GMT
#40
Found this kinda helpful with no knowledge at all. Gonna need matches though I think. Need to see a little more to undertand when there's a major WOAH That's awesome skill moment.
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