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Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
March 13 2018 19:09 GMT
#181
Noone's crazy good. Him and Ramzes mesh with each other so well.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
March 13 2018 20:50 GMT
#182
On March 14 2018 04:09 Xafnia wrote:
Noone's crazy good. Him and Ramzes mesh with each other so well.

That doesn't mean he is mechanically on par with Miracle or RTZ. He is good, yes, he is not extraordinary.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
March 14 2018 00:45 GMT
#183
Well, the team minus NoOne is playing WESG next. I know this tournament doesn't matter in the long run; maybe we'll see them try out some goofball stuff with their standin iLTW. But it is saying something about the competition when the most threatening thing in their group is Peru.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
March 14 2018 12:40 GMT
#184
On March 14 2018 09:45 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Well, the team minus NoOne is playing WESG next. I know this tournament doesn't matter in the long run; maybe we'll see them try out some goofball stuff with their standin iLTW. But it is saying something about the competition when the most threatening thing in their group is Peru.

I agree, not even Team Ukraine is playing.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
March 14 2018 16:07 GMT
#185
On March 14 2018 05:50 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2018 04:09 Xafnia wrote:
Noone's crazy good. Him and Ramzes mesh with each other so well.

That doesn't mean he is mechanically on par with Miracle or RTZ. He is good, yes, he is not extraordinary.


?? noone is feared to be one of the mechanically strongest players. there are rumors floating around that miracle dodges mid when playing against VP just because of how crazy Noone is in lane.
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 07 2018 19:53 GMT
#186
After dominating most of the season they are faltering as TI comes closer. Losses to Na'vi and FlyToMoon has definitely destroyed their invincible aura. Maybe taking an off for Changsha major will freshen them up, and will give them time to try out new heroes and strategies in the new meta. The hype also probably got to them.
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
May 09 2018 02:30 GMT
#187
On May 08 2018 04:53 arghyad1 wrote:
After dominating most of the season they are faltering as TI comes closer. Losses to Na'vi and FlyToMoon has definitely destroyed their invincible aura. Maybe taking an off for Changsha major will freshen them up, and will give them time to try out new heroes and strategies in the new meta. The hype also probably got to them.


I think their main problems post-Frankfurt have been falling back on their old hero pool and teams deliberately targeting Ramzes in the midgame. It could be remedied by giving Pasha more dominant 1v1/2v2 offlaners (Beastmaster and Veno spring to mind) to punish aggro lanes, or occasionally shifting the carry responsibilities to No[O]ne while Ramzes play utility safelane carries.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
cold_flame
Profile Joined May 2018
Burma2 Posts
May 11 2018 03:01 GMT
#188
Feel sorry for Team Secret and fng
For every dark night, there is a brighter day.😇
arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 31 2018 23:56 GMT
#189
Chance to create a new record of 5 major wins (& in their case all in 1 season). Though I personally am not supporting them, but if they win this major, they might create a record that might not be broken in quite some time.
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
June 01 2018 02:33 GMT
#190
Feels like at this point, VP's biggest enemy is themselves (it has probably been like that for a while). If they play at their best, no team can beat them.
cc1691
Profile Joined February 2015
16 Posts
June 03 2018 01:04 GMT
#191
Doesn't LGD have a superior head to head over VP in the last 5 months?
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
June 03 2018 01:33 GMT
#192
Not sure how much favor that puts them over Virtus Pro. VP have studied the teams that beat them in the past and came out on top in subsequent matches. They did it against OG, EG, even Liquid. Don't see how it wouldn't be different against LGD.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
cc1691
Profile Joined February 2015
16 Posts
June 03 2018 02:09 GMT
#193
You can say the same thing about LGD - everyone studies their opponents

LGD's form has been better than VP's, Not really sure why you're dismissing them?
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
June 03 2018 03:14 GMT
#194
VP won last tournament, to miss a tournament can give loss of form.

For me when VP plays to there best they look like the best team in the world, can't say i get same feeling watching LGD.
GO OG
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
June 03 2018 04:16 GMT
#195
On June 03 2018 10:04 cc1691 wrote:
Doesn't LGD have a superior head to head over VP in the last 5 months?


Yes, but those games are hardly proof of LGD being a superior team. They won the first series off the most YOLO Dark Rift imaginable, then took the second by abusing Slark's reemergence. They have largely looked even thanks to LGD's impeccable lane pressure canceling out VP's primary strength.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
cc1691
Profile Joined February 2015
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-03 09:52:02
June 03 2018 09:48 GMT
#196
On June 03 2018 13:16 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2018 10:04 cc1691 wrote:
Doesn't LGD have a superior head to head over VP in the last 5 months?


Yes, but those games are hardly proof of LGD being a superior team. They won the first series off the most YOLO Dark Rift imaginable, then took the second by abusing Slark's reemergence. They have largely looked even thanks to LGD's impeccable lane pressure canceling out VP's primary strength.



I never said LGD was vastly superior. I was just arguing against this -

Feels like at this point, VP's biggest enemy is themselves (it has probably been like that for a while). If they play at their best, no team can beat them.


I feel like people here don't give Chinese teams the credit they deserve just because they're Chinese.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3468 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-03 15:16:22
June 03 2018 15:15 GMT
#197
VP are amazing at stomping lesser teams I grant you. They are probably the best team in the world as well, but LGD, liquid and possibly Secret can still easily beat them in a series I think.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
June 03 2018 15:40 GMT
#198
On June 04 2018 00:15 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
VP are amazing at stomping lesser teams I grant you. They are probably the best team in the world as well, but LGD, liquid and possibly Secret can still easily beat them in a series I think.


Agreed VG for me is the best at topform, but all these teams have shown that they can win if they figured out meta and are topform, would also throw in Minesky, possible VG and Newbie.

Regarding that Chinese teams are not so high regraded is that they have EARNED an reputation of being boring with there play style for years. Also they have been really up and down this year and non of them have looked good for longer period of time. But guess that is true of most teams.
GO OG
cc1691
Profile Joined February 2015
16 Posts
June 09 2018 07:42 GMT
#199
On June 01 2018 11:33 BigO wrote:
Feels like at this point, VP's biggest enemy is themselves (it has probably been like that for a while). If they play at their best, no team can beat them.


2-0 vs lgd lmao
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
June 10 2018 05:25 GMT
#200
See? LGD are beatable.
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