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bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
March 17 2015 18:46 GMT
#481
Haven't seen the games yet, but Vici for whatever reason is historically awful against HGT, losing to them twice 1-2 at i-League season 2, losing to them 1-2 at WVW National Electronic Sports.
Nagamundo
Profile Joined January 2013
131 Posts
March 18 2015 01:58 GMT
#482
On March 18 2015 03:24 caiovigg wrote:
enigma as the offlaner is the worst shit ever, it just doesnt make sense :/

hope they can do well from now on


Enigma offlane is decent. You can deny/harass with eidolons.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
March 18 2015 03:49 GMT
#483
Iceiceice should draft. I still can't get over that no-ban draft vs iG at the height of iG's dominance.I dunno, I've never liked Fy's drafts.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
March 18 2015 03:54 GMT
#484
On March 18 2015 10:58 Nagamundo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 03:24 caiovigg wrote:
enigma as the offlaner is the worst shit ever, it just doesnt make sense :/

hope they can do well from now on


Enigma offlane is decent. You can deny/harass with eidolons.


Yeah, but you could have more farm in the jungle. If they had a magnus or tide instead of enigma they would do much better.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
March 24 2015 22:23 GMT
#485
so i watched quite some games of the new vici, and i have to say, they are not better then with black. but i guess they feel better being all chinese now, who knows.
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-25 00:53:13
March 25 2015 00:27 GMT
#486
On March 18 2015 12:49 Caladbolg wrote:
Iceiceice should draft. I still can't get over that no-ban draft vs iG at the height of iG's dominance.I dunno, I've never liked Fy's drafts.

Iceiceice already has a huge say in VG's draft, just not the one clicking the button.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODY0NjQ0NDU2.html

Spot the Singaporean (say about 2.50). The other members of the team also has quite a bit of say during the draft.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
March 25 2015 01:33 GMT
#487
On March 18 2015 12:54 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 10:58 Nagamundo wrote:
On March 18 2015 03:24 caiovigg wrote:
enigma as the offlaner is the worst shit ever, it just doesnt make sense :/

hope they can do well from now on


Enigma offlane is decent. You can deny/harass with eidolons.


Yeah, but you could have more farm in the jungle. If they had a magnus or tide instead of enigma they would do much better.


I'm not the biggest fan of Enigma offlane, but 'could get more farm in the jungle' holds true for quite a few offlane heroes. The point of an offlaner isn't just to get farm, it's to disrupt the carry's farm and force the supports to stay in the lane. Enigma's good at both.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
NubbleST
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
March 25 2015 01:37 GMT
#488
I have a friend who's been playing enigma offlane ~5.5k and getting double kills 1v3. It makes no sense.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
March 25 2015 02:49 GMT
#489
On March 25 2015 10:37 NubbleST wrote:
I have a friend who's been playing enigma offlane ~5.5k and getting double kills 1v3. It makes no sense.


I'd love to see replays of that. Think you can cop some?
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
NubbleST
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
March 26 2015 10:09 GMT
#490
Most of the replays have expired, although looking at dotabuff it looks like sometimes he just feeds endlessly :d Maybe it depends on the game/heroes

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/83636940/matches?date=&hero=enigma&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
March 30 2015 12:57 GMT
#491
I must say that Hao and iceiceice making space for super mid game and super + iceiceice for Hao late game is much better than super + iceiceice create space for black all game. Also fy still thinks he's carry...
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 30 2015 23:48 GMT
#492
super has been incredible lately, it's really good to see
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
March 31 2015 03:49 GMT
#493
On March 25 2015 07:23 hunter_x wrote:
so i watched quite some games of the new vici, and i have to say, they are not better then with black. but i guess they feel better being all chinese now, who knows.


Being all able to speak and understand Mandarin fluently is a definite plus but on top of that the competition has improved also. I firmly believe VG with Black would not have been able to keep up. Even if we don't directly compare Black and Hao head to head, it is easy to see that having Black imposed certain limitations on the team in terms of strategies and combos due to communication affecting execution.

The Chinese teams play a very execution heavy based Dota compared to the West which is more strategy dominant. This is partially if not mostly due to playing conditions, as seen in a few of the Chinese games the expected ping is 30 and if one team has high ping such as >100 the other team will gladly wait or remake if it's pre-horn. In the West, not having a ping difference of >100 between the teams is already a good thing. At the moment having 10 players connected to the game for the whole game seems to be a luxury. My point being, to the Chinese players, having to sacrifice execution potential (in this case communication) is a limits their performance significantly.


fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
March 31 2015 22:09 GMT
#494
I just hope this team doesn't suffer burnout from all the LANs right before TI.
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 23:31:50
March 31 2015 23:31 GMT
#495
VG so fucking strong atm, making IG look like NA trash.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 01 2015 00:29 GMT
#496
On April 01 2015 07:09 fixed_point wrote:
I just hope this team doesn't suffer burnout from all the LANs right before TI.


i doubt they will attend all, "Visa Issues" will undoubtedly arise. i would say they probably only attend TS3 and ESL.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 01:02:55
April 01 2015 01:02 GMT
#497
On April 01 2015 09:29 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 07:09 fixed_point wrote:
I just hope this team doesn't suffer burnout from all the LANs right before TI.


i doubt they will attend all, "Visa Issues" will undoubtedly arise. i would say they probably only attend TS3 and ESL.

I hope you're right about the tournaments they might attend. I really want to meet them at ESL.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 01 2015 02:52 GMT
#498
agree that with black they wouldve never attained this sort of form. not sure if itll stick, but they now have the flexibility and coordination they didnt have before
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fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
April 07 2015 17:02 GMT
#499
iceiceice has said on stream that he doesn't want to go to too many tourneys before TI. Basically only wants to play TS3 and ESL. Not sure what other tournaments VG might consider joining. Maybe one of the chinese ones.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
April 08 2015 01:55 GMT
#500
i-League might be something they'll join
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
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