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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
March 15 2015 22:17 GMT
#1601
On March 16 2015 06:56 LemOn wrote:
no starladder for navi wow

really dont know what to say :/
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gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
March 15 2015 22:52 GMT
#1602
always will love this team and organization, but to be honest it's time to call it quits and disband. this is just an insult to the brand name.

start fresh with young blood, like VPP did, and try to be "stable". seems empire can pseudo-do it, despite poaching, yet they can pull it off.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
March 15 2015 22:54 GMT
#1603
I don't think VP is a model of how to run a Dota2 team right now.

Considering they no longer have one.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
March 15 2015 23:03 GMT
#1604
On March 16 2015 07:52 gulati wrote:
always will love this team and organization, but to be honest it's time to call it quits and disband. this is just an insult to the brand name.

start fresh with young blood, like VPP did, and try to be "stable". seems empire can pseudo-do it, despite poaching, yet they can pull it off.


Disband NaVi, NaVi picks up TS roster. Personal apology letter to Puppey
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
March 16 2015 04:18 GMT
#1605
i honestly don't know what to say for Na'Vi now... hopefully they come back like EG did at one point. :/
Still Na'Vi fan~ like my signature, gotta stay with teams/players through hard times <3 GOGO Na'Vi <3 you were born to win
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
March 16 2015 05:11 GMT
#1606
Ya... er...

Iuno what to say really. I hope they return in strength soon but at the moment they look... just bad.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
March 16 2015 06:43 GMT
#1607
On March 16 2015 13:18 Bisu-Fan wrote:
i honestly don't know what to say for Na'Vi now... hopefully they come back like EG did at one point. :/
Still Na'Vi fan~ like my signature, gotta stay with teams/players through hard times <3 GOGO Na'Vi <3 you were born to win


EG didn't really come back though, or at least that team of EG didn't. Na`Vi has to be willing to let go of their "untouchable" players to go through that kind of brand revival, and judging how things went with fng, they don't seem to be prepared to do that.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
March 16 2015 08:22 GMT
#1608
On March 16 2015 15:43 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2015 13:18 Bisu-Fan wrote:
i honestly don't know what to say for Na'Vi now... hopefully they come back like EG did at one point. :/
Still Na'Vi fan~ like my signature, gotta stay with teams/players through hard times <3 GOGO Na'Vi <3 you were born to win


EG didn't really come back though, or at least that team of EG didn't. Na`Vi has to be willing to let go of their "untouchable" players to go through that kind of brand revival, and judging how things went with fng, they don't seem to be prepared to do that.

How far does fear go though? Wasn't he like the only constant? but yeah I'm all for Dendi getting to a better team (the fact that he's still doing really well is really nice to see but heartbreaking)... I miss TI2, TI3, and everything in between Na'Vi... those were the days
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
March 16 2015 18:11 GMT
#1609
On March 16 2015 17:22 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2015 15:43 Talin wrote:
On March 16 2015 13:18 Bisu-Fan wrote:
i honestly don't know what to say for Na'Vi now... hopefully they come back like EG did at one point. :/
Still Na'Vi fan~ like my signature, gotta stay with teams/players through hard times <3 GOGO Na'Vi <3 you were born to win


EG didn't really come back though, or at least that team of EG didn't. Na`Vi has to be willing to let go of their "untouchable" players to go through that kind of brand revival, and judging how things went with fng, they don't seem to be prepared to do that.

How far does fear go though? Wasn't he like the only constant? but yeah I'm all for Dendi getting to a better team (the fact that he's still doing really well is really nice to see but heartbreaking)... I miss TI2, TI3, and everything in between Na'Vi... those were the days

I feel you.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 16 2015 19:17 GMT
#1610
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
March 17 2015 00:38 GMT
#1611
On March 17 2015 03:11 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2015 17:22 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On March 16 2015 15:43 Talin wrote:
On March 16 2015 13:18 Bisu-Fan wrote:
i honestly don't know what to say for Na'Vi now... hopefully they come back like EG did at one point. :/
Still Na'Vi fan~ like my signature, gotta stay with teams/players through hard times <3 GOGO Na'Vi <3 you were born to win


EG didn't really come back though, or at least that team of EG didn't. Na`Vi has to be willing to let go of their "untouchable" players to go through that kind of brand revival, and judging how things went with fng, they don't seem to be prepared to do that.

How far does fear go though? Wasn't he like the only constant? but yeah I'm all for Dendi getting to a better team (the fact that he's still doing really well is really nice to see but heartbreaking)... I miss TI2, TI3, and everything in between Na'Vi... those were the days

I feel you.


Yeah, i feel u 2 guyz. What a team it was! I was ppy's fan from ks.int days tt it was very sad when he left Na'Vi cause i've became Na'Vi fan cause if him.

Nevertheless, i really hope that Na'Vi will do better sometime soon. Maybe they could Dendi support, Phobos off lane and take 3 young players?
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 17 2015 15:39 GMT
#1612
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 17 2015 15:44 GMT
#1613
On March 18 2015 00:39 DucK- wrote:
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.

Navi is 9th-12th, they're too far down for that to happen. The other times that happened they were 5th or 6th.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 15:47:57
March 17 2015 15:46 GMT
#1614
On March 18 2015 00:39 DucK- wrote:
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.

I fucking loved el classico era but the portion where EG(sadboys) still hasn't risen yet and China hasn't started to owning everybody. Those were the best times for me but i'm more of a alliance fan.
this is a quote
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
March 17 2015 15:53 GMT
#1615
On March 18 2015 00:46 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 00:39 DucK- wrote:
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.

I fucking loved el classico era but the portion where EG(sadboys) still hasn't risen yet and China hasn't started to owning everybody. Those were the best times for me but i'm more of a alliance fan.

When did Chinese own everybody ? Because the last time it happened was at TI2 and it was before El classico. You could argue about TI4, still it wasn't really dominating, or not as much as in TI2 anyway.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 16:00:38
March 17 2015 15:56 GMT
#1616
On March 18 2015 00:53 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 00:46 goody153 wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:39 DucK- wrote:
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.

I fucking loved el classico era but the portion where EG(sadboys) still hasn't risen yet and China hasn't started to owning everybody. Those were the best times for me but i'm more of a alliance fan.

When did Chinese own everybody ? Because the last time it happened was at TI2 and it was before El classico. You could argue about TI4, still it wasn't really dominating, or not as much as in TI2 anyway.

TI4 was not as dominating as TI2, no, but it was still pretty dominating. Both finalists, 3 of the top 4, 5 of the top 8 were Chinese teams. Edit: And there were no other Chinese teams at the event, although there were a couple of SEA teams.
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Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 16:05:33
March 17 2015 16:05 GMT
#1617
On March 18 2015 00:56 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 00:53 Gevna wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:46 goody153 wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:39 DucK- wrote:
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.

I fucking loved el classico era but the portion where EG(sadboys) still hasn't risen yet and China hasn't started to owning everybody. Those were the best times for me but i'm more of a alliance fan.

When did Chinese own everybody ? Because the last time it happened was at TI2 and it was before El classico. You could argue about TI4, still it wasn't really dominating, or not as much as in TI2 anyway.

TI4 was not as dominating as TI2, no, but it was still pretty dominating. Both finalists, 3 of the top 4, 5 of the top 8 were Chinese teams. Edit: And there were no other Chinese teams at the event, although there were a couple of SEA teams.

Well yes, but then West got his payback at DAC. I mean, there is no such thing in dota as "China owning everybody". I was mostly talking about this point, but I've probably phrased it poorly. For me the only real exemple of China outplaying everyone was at TI2.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 17 2015 16:05 GMT
#1618
On March 18 2015 00:44 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 00:39 DucK- wrote:
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.

Navi is 9th-12th, they're too far down for that to happen. The other times that happened they were 5th or 6th.


They would still be invited because it's gonna be a last minute replacement, and they will be the only team able to attend easily
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 16:10:39
March 17 2015 16:07 GMT
#1619
On March 18 2015 00:53 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 00:46 goody153 wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:39 DucK- wrote:
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.

I fucking loved el classico era but the portion where EG(sadboys) still hasn't risen yet and China hasn't started to owning everybody. Those were the best times for me but i'm more of a alliance fan.

When did Chinese own everybody ? Because the last time it happened was at TI2 and it was before El classico. You could argue about TI4, still it wasn't really dominating, or not as much as in TI2 anyway.

TI4 was a pretty much chinese dominated.

Every single Western team expected to do well didn't make it while all the chinese team who participated got top 8. And EG which was the best Western team that time got crushed super hard by newbee and outplayed by VG.

Even the events leading to TI4 was pretty much chinese dominated except the ones with DK(the summit) lol.

On March 18 2015 01:05 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 00:56 Elyvilon wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:53 Gevna wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:46 goody153 wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:39 DucK- wrote:
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.

I fucking loved el classico era but the portion where EG(sadboys) still hasn't risen yet and China hasn't started to owning everybody. Those were the best times for me but i'm more of a alliance fan.

When did Chinese own everybody ? Because the last time it happened was at TI2 and it was before El classico. You could argue about TI4, still it wasn't really dominating, or not as much as in TI2 anyway.

TI4 was not as dominating as TI2, no, but it was still pretty dominating. Both finalists, 3 of the top 4, 5 of the top 8 were Chinese teams. Edit: And there were no other Chinese teams at the event, although there were a couple of SEA teams.

Well yes, but then West got his payback at DAC. I mean, there is no such thing in dota as "China owning everybody". I was mostly talking about this point, but I've probably phrased it poorly. For me the only real exemple of China outplaying everyone was at TI2.

Well yeah they got there revenge at DAC but china owned TI4 let's be honest that they were just clearly better than everybody else.
this is a quote
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 17 2015 16:08 GMT
#1620
On March 18 2015 01:05 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 00:56 Elyvilon wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:53 Gevna wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:46 goody153 wrote:
On March 18 2015 00:39 DucK- wrote:
I miss Navi and Alliance at their peak. It feels like Dota teams in general have regressed in the past year or 2.

Anyway don't worry about Navi and starladder. Some team's gonna not get visas or something, and Navi will get invited as a replacement.

I fucking loved el classico era but the portion where EG(sadboys) still hasn't risen yet and China hasn't started to owning everybody. Those were the best times for me but i'm more of a alliance fan.

When did Chinese own everybody ? Because the last time it happened was at TI2 and it was before El classico. You could argue about TI4, still it wasn't really dominating, or not as much as in TI2 anyway.

TI4 was not as dominating as TI2, no, but it was still pretty dominating. Both finalists, 3 of the top 4, 5 of the top 8 were Chinese teams. Edit: And there were no other Chinese teams at the event, although there were a couple of SEA teams.

Well yes, but then West got his payback at DAC. I mean, there is no such thing in dota as "China owning everybody". I was mostly talking about this point, but I've probably phrased it poorly. For me the only real exemple of China outplaying everyone was at TI2.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I don't see how you can argue that TI4 was not Chinese domination.
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