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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3338 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 04:38:29
February 19 2015 04:37 GMT
#1481
On February 19 2015 11:18 drusalnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 10:40 FHDH wrote:
On February 19 2015 10:18 gergnub wrote:
On February 19 2015 10:15 drusalnik wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:45 FHDH wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:38 drusalnik wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:31 FHDH wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:30 drusalnik wrote:
On February 19 2015 06:15 FHDH wrote:
Dendi's willingness to play the farming mid has gone up quite a bit, and he is actually extremely efficient when his mindset is right. Recent performances on Sniper and Magnus would show this. To a lesser extent his SF as well (the standard by which he is judged is the Arteezy SF which is of course a farming monster).

I think it's more a matter of player utilization. Dendi at heart is a playmaker. He has of course made his name as a playmaker from the mid position but if you can find someone who will do a reasonably comparable job, putting him in a more aggressive position like offlane (given the meta) could net good results.

But it doesn't sound like there's any substance to the offlane rumor, so it's pretty academic.



Wonder if something happens to you who will start praising and licking Dendi's feet so much.

You wanna translate this totally inappropriate post to English?


To be blunt it feels like you are on a payroll from Na'Vi to praise their players even after they have fallen of the tier1 team spot.

You're a cute kid. You should find something better to do than dropping into this thread and spewing nonsense. Perhaps you think you're doing some really creative and effective trolling but really you're just being offensive and adding nothing to the conversation.

No one is impressed.


Sure mate what ever you say i mean you are the all knowing and all mighty.
I do not come here to seek impressed people i came because i find it really funny how deluded some fans can be and by some i mean you.
But hey what ever floats your boat.


You sir need to re-read that first post, think about it, read it again and then look at your replys. Hate on Dendi as much as you like still not making much sense there.

Don't try to reason with him, the only thing he ever comes here to do is troll. I can't remember if he was the one given a little timeout in the corner from the mods some time ago.

I think...he thinks he's owning me or something. It's hard to say.


You think too highly of your self i'm afraid.

I honestly don't know why you bother to come here so often only to laugh at everyone on the Na'Vi fanpage... just start a Na'Vi hate page or something... we're all so collectively sick of you I'm tempted to ask for another ban if the first one FHDH said actually happened... if it hasn't happened, always time for a first!

EDIT: also, who do you think is better than Dendi? I always like asking this question to see who the haters think are better than him...
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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
February 19 2015 08:21 GMT
#1482
On February 19 2015 13:37 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 11:18 drusalnik wrote:
On February 19 2015 10:40 FHDH wrote:
On February 19 2015 10:18 gergnub wrote:
On February 19 2015 10:15 drusalnik wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:45 FHDH wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:38 drusalnik wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:31 FHDH wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:30 drusalnik wrote:
On February 19 2015 06:15 FHDH wrote:
Dendi's willingness to play the farming mid has gone up quite a bit, and he is actually extremely efficient when his mindset is right. Recent performances on Sniper and Magnus would show this. To a lesser extent his SF as well (the standard by which he is judged is the Arteezy SF which is of course a farming monster).

I think it's more a matter of player utilization. Dendi at heart is a playmaker. He has of course made his name as a playmaker from the mid position but if you can find someone who will do a reasonably comparable job, putting him in a more aggressive position like offlane (given the meta) could net good results.

But it doesn't sound like there's any substance to the offlane rumor, so it's pretty academic.



Wonder if something happens to you who will start praising and licking Dendi's feet so much.

You wanna translate this totally inappropriate post to English?


To be blunt it feels like you are on a payroll from Na'Vi to praise their players even after they have fallen of the tier1 team spot.

You're a cute kid. You should find something better to do than dropping into this thread and spewing nonsense. Perhaps you think you're doing some really creative and effective trolling but really you're just being offensive and adding nothing to the conversation.

No one is impressed.


Sure mate what ever you say i mean you are the all knowing and all mighty.
I do not come here to seek impressed people i came because i find it really funny how deluded some fans can be and by some i mean you.
But hey what ever floats your boat.


You sir need to re-read that first post, think about it, read it again and then look at your replys. Hate on Dendi as much as you like still not making much sense there.

Don't try to reason with him, the only thing he ever comes here to do is troll. I can't remember if he was the one given a little timeout in the corner from the mods some time ago.

I think...he thinks he's owning me or something. It's hard to say.


You think too highly of your self i'm afraid.

I honestly don't know why you bother to come here so often only to laugh at everyone on the Na'Vi fanpage... just start a Na'Vi hate page or something... we're all so collectively sick of you I'm tempted to ask for another ban if the first one FHDH said actually happened... if it hasn't happened, always time for a first!

EDIT: also, who do you think is better than Dendi? I always like asking this question to see who the haters think are better than him...


A troll is a troll Bisu. You know those types, apparently know it all but actually doesn't know anything Because apparently everyone is bad, no one is good. I don't know why he bothers to continue to post. Special child.
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Hoenicker
Profile Joined February 2012
243 Posts
February 19 2015 08:49 GMT
#1483
Drusalnik has spread his toxicity in various team threads, he is simply a troll. Best ignore it.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
February 19 2015 09:22 GMT
#1484
@Drusalnik: Man, you gotta start showing some real foundations for your statements, spewing words for the sake of it really makes you look rather poorly minded. Unless of course you don't care, and that seems to be the case.

As I said before, judging a player without context it will always end up in a poor judgment. Same example as before, seeing s4 in his late [A] days he looks like a T2.5 midlaner and now in Secret he is back at "THE BEST MIDLANER IN THE SCENE!!!", like guys please stop to think before writing and start showing some sense when making such statements.
Yeah Dendi is not showing off like before, neither is NaVi playing like 2 years ago.

Sometime ago I read a post in Secret's discussion about n0tail, this guy said "n0tail is not even one of the best three supports in the west", just that. I was about to answer him "ok then, name three better supports other than him" but then I remembered how pointless it is to argue with kids.

Now I don't know why am I writing this to you... but oh well, it is done already.
drusalnik
Profile Joined July 2014
Bulgaria133 Posts
February 19 2015 17:49 GMT
#1485
You are all so cute.

Just fyi Racket i never said anything like this about n0tail i think he is even better support player then Zai was so i'm afraid my friend you have the capacity of a gold fish when it comes to actually reading or remembering.

Foundations?
You gotta be kidding me right because i think Dendi is in a average state atm i have to show foundations dude it is not how it works.
Na'Vi are average therefor so is Dendi if he was brilliant they could of at least won something recently and no making it to top8 in DAC doesn't count because lets face it most of the teams there apart from EG/VG/Secret were hit and miss.

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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
February 19 2015 19:15 GMT
#1486
On February 20 2015 02:49 drusalnik wrote:
You are all so cute.

Just fyi Racket i never said anything like this about n0tail i think he is even better support player then Zai was so i'm afraid my friend you have the capacity of a gold fish when it comes to actually reading or remembering.

Foundations?
You gotta be kidding me right because i think Dendi is in a average state atm i have to show foundations dude it is not how it works.
Na'Vi are average therefor so is Dendi if he was brilliant they could of at least won something recently and no making it to top8 in DAC doesn't count because lets face it most of the teams there apart from EG/VG/Secret were hit and miss.

Drusalnik, you didn't say it. I never said it was you, I was just giving an example of someone who states things without giving any reasons for his thinking. In fact I didn't take the time to answer him because I have never saw him before, unlike with you, whom I have seen many times around here. So keep your goldfish's analogy to yourself.

Again man, you have to grow up, later in life you either need to properly analyze and explain the reasoning backing your opinions or you will always be regarded as a blockhead.

And by this I mean, if you are going to keep on attacking people's opinions with that kind of attitude (FHDH's for instance), you will be regarded as unworthy of arguing with, even over the smallest things.

Lastly, if I am taking the time to say this to you is just because you seem able, from time to time, to make valid points... but what you did these last posts is not constructive in any way, you are just attacking people like a bot.

Note: We already discussed and agreed on Dendi's current performance, and also how his impact works on the team. If you deem him as average because he is not carrying 4 people on his back (even when Xboct's late performance couldn't do it, being him the best of the 5), then works the same for any other person in the same situation.
For instance n0tail, he went from one of the best supports in the west to a shadow of his former (Secret) self. why is it then? Maybe because Secret is not C9. I don't know why, but that doesn't make me vomit hate all over everyone else's opinion about him.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
February 19 2015 20:06 GMT
#1487
Again with the attacking.

You ever noticed how your average post start off with attacking someone first before giving some rather lame replies after? Least Azarkon ATTEMPTS to give his reasons, however much flame bait they are. Show foundations? You even know the meaning of what Racket says?

As Puppey said, DotA 2 is a team game. With 5 people, this isn't a Dendi show. He might not be a great as he was 2 years ago, but he is still good enough to win. This is a team effort, stop trying to shove the blame to someone on the team. That isn't being a fan, that's being a hater. Thorin would like a word with you. (Even though I really don't like him all that much either.)
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
February 21 2015 19:14 GMT
#1488
Guys there has been a tragic loss in our little community.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
February 21 2015 19:41 GMT
#1489
Oh no! What will we do now that a hater and a troll is gone.
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V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
February 21 2015 20:11 GMT
#1490
So when will they announce who will replace Funnik?
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
February 21 2015 20:18 GMT
#1491
On February 22 2015 05:11 V1ctor wrote:
So when will they announce who will replace Funnik?

No idea. I thought maybe Dendi had stopped streaming (after kicking up his frequency for a while) because they were busy either looking for or practicing with the new guy but it looks like he and XBOCT are in LA for unknown reasons. I'm not sure they know who the new guy is yet, and while it is sorta urgent, it's the last personnel move they can realistically make if they want to get into TI5, even through the qualifiers.

So they may be taking a long hard look at it. Maybe Funn1k isn't the only one going. Guess we'll see.

I do like that Dendi has been participating in EEL. It's more entertaining than most of his pubs, for one thing, and getting a lot of the pros involved with it over there should have - at least to some degree - the same effect as it's had in NEL: helping to develop and discover talent.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
February 21 2015 20:23 GMT
#1492
Thanks for the info.

I believe we will know the 5th guy sometimes next week because that is when D2CL is starting and they are participating in it.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-21 20:25:16
February 21 2015 20:25 GMT
#1493
On February 22 2015 05:23 V1ctor wrote:
Thanks for the info.

I believe we will know the 5th guy sometimes next week because that is when D2CL is starting and they are participating in it.

Didn't know that. Interesting times ahead.

One note that may be meaningless: Dendi has been drafting in most of the EEL games he's been playing in on stream.

And the rate of pro participation has been much higher in what I've seen of EEL than NEL.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
February 21 2015 20:26 GMT
#1494
On February 22 2015 05:25 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 05:23 V1ctor wrote:
Thanks for the info.

I believe we will know the 5th guy sometimes next week because that is when D2CL is starting and they are participating in it.

Didn't know that. Interesting times ahead.

One note that may be meaningless: Dendi has been drafting in most of the EEL games he's been playing in on stream.

And the rate of pro participation has been much higher in what I've seen of EEL than NEL.



Where are you watching that?
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
February 21 2015 20:36 GMT
#1495
On February 22 2015 05:26 V1ctor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 05:25 FHDH wrote:
On February 22 2015 05:23 V1ctor wrote:
Thanks for the info.

I believe we will know the 5th guy sometimes next week because that is when D2CL is starting and they are participating in it.

Didn't know that. Interesting times ahead.

One note that may be meaningless: Dendi has been drafting in most of the EEL games he's been playing in on stream.

And the rate of pro participation has been much higher in what I've seen of EEL than NEL.



Where are you watching that?

Well EEL is just an in-house league like NEL so I don't think anyone is "casting" it on a regular basis, so I'm seeing people play in it when pros are streaming. Right now I'm watching Resolut1on on Twitch, and he's in a game with Illidan, Alohadance, Dread, Yoky, Lil, and maybe other big players I don't recognize. In recent Dendi streams he has also been playing a fair amount of EEL, with some of the same guys in games, and XBOCT often on his team.

http://www.twitch.tv/resolut1ontv
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
February 21 2015 20:37 GMT
#1496
Aren't some players in the West Coast for the Valve meeting?

Maybe Dendi and Hvost went but decided to take a small vacation or something while the CIS region is doing some shuffling.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
February 21 2015 20:39 GMT
#1497
On February 22 2015 05:37 Seraphic wrote:
Aren't some players in the West Coast for the Valve meeting?

Maybe Dendi and Hvost went but decided to take a small vacation or something while the CIS region is doing some shuffling.

Hm that was a bit back and I believe Dendi was streaming from home while Funn1k was in Seattle. However, maybe they have been meeting groups of players in stages, and Dondo apparently loves Disneyland.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
February 21 2015 20:42 GMT
#1498
On February 22 2015 05:39 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 05:37 Seraphic wrote:
Aren't some players in the West Coast for the Valve meeting?

Maybe Dendi and Hvost went but decided to take a small vacation or something while the CIS region is doing some shuffling.

Hm that was a bit back and I believe Dendi was streaming from home while Funn1k was in Seattle. However, maybe they have been meeting groups of players in stages, and Dondo apparently loves Disneyland.


Who doesn't love Disneyland
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V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
February 21 2015 20:43 GMT
#1499
On February 22 2015 05:36 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 05:26 V1ctor wrote:
On February 22 2015 05:25 FHDH wrote:
On February 22 2015 05:23 V1ctor wrote:
Thanks for the info.

I believe we will know the 5th guy sometimes next week because that is when D2CL is starting and they are participating in it.

Didn't know that. Interesting times ahead.

One note that may be meaningless: Dendi has been drafting in most of the EEL games he's been playing in on stream.

And the rate of pro participation has been much higher in what I've seen of EEL than NEL.



Where are you watching that?

Well EEL is just an in-house league like NEL so I don't think anyone is "casting" it on a regular basis, so I'm seeing people play in it when pros are streaming. Right now I'm watching Resolut1on on Twitch, and he's in a game with Illidan, Alohadance, Dread, Yoky, Lil, and maybe other big players I don't recognize. In recent Dendi streams he has also been playing a fair amount of EEL, with some of the same guys in games, and XBOCT often on his team.

http://www.twitch.tv/resolut1ontv


Good to know, thanks again
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3338 Posts
February 22 2015 00:26 GMT
#1500
Yeah he's been playing a lot of EEL~ That's the only things I see of his streams these days. It's good to watch as it's more coordinated maybe his DCE tag?

Unrelated, why isn't the banned logo
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