On October 29 2014 18:44 Alcor wrote: i only know that they have a sick winrate lately, apart from the 2 matches in starladder finals that got them out...
Really? Every time I tune into one of their matches they're losing recently, except for that BBC game yesterday. They got knocked out of ESL New York in their first bo3. They're losing to Empire right now.
10-4 in Starladder 7-2 in The summit Playoff of D2CL (5-0 in the bracket) The game against empire are actually the final of EMC2 where they cleaned the bracket 4-0.
So no they have a great winrate, they are mostly losing only to the top teams (EG / C9 / SECRET / VG) but they are dominating the scene atm. They even took map off EG / VG so they have a really decent record. Its just not up to what fans were used to (top 3 world).
thank god u pointed out navi is currently dominating the scene. nobody else noticed
No thank to god about your reading skill tho.
ah right im retarded sory
nvm i take this back. ur wording makes it seem as if u were referring to navi with the dominating the scene bit. thank god for ur writing skills dumbass
On October 29 2014 18:44 Alcor wrote: i only know that they have a sick winrate lately, apart from the 2 matches in starladder finals that got them out...
Really? Every time I tune into one of their matches they're losing recently, except for that BBC game yesterday. They got knocked out of ESL New York in their first bo3. They're losing to Empire right now.
10-4 in Starladder 7-2 in The summit Playoff of D2CL (5-0 in the bracket) The game against empire are actually the final of EMC2 where they cleaned the bracket 4-0.
So no they have a great winrate, they are mostly losing only to the top teams (EG / C9 / SECRET / VG) but they are dominating the scene atm. They even took map off EG / VG so they have a really decent record. Its just not up to what fans were used to (top 3 world).
thank god u pointed out navi is currently dominating the scene. nobody else noticed
No thank to god about your reading skill tho.
Burnt
whatever dude
No hard feelings man, all good please. I felt the need to say it.
On October 29 2014 18:44 Alcor wrote: i only know that they have a sick winrate lately, apart from the 2 matches in starladder finals that got them out...
Really? Every time I tune into one of their matches they're losing recently, except for that BBC game yesterday. They got knocked out of ESL New York in their first bo3. They're losing to Empire right now.
10-4 in Starladder 7-2 in The summit Playoff of D2CL (5-0 in the bracket) The game against empire are actually the final of EMC2 where they cleaned the bracket 4-0.
So no they have a great winrate, they are mostly losing only to the top teams (EG / C9 / SECRET / VG) but they are dominating the scene atm. They even took map off EG / VG so they have a really decent record. Its just not up to what fans were used to (top 3 world).
thank god u pointed out navi is currently dominating the scene. nobody else noticed
No thank to god about your reading skill tho.
Burnt
whatever dude
No hard feelings man, all good please. I felt the need to say it. ALSO FUCK U U GAY CUNT
all right all right calm down dude no need to get angry
On October 29 2014 18:44 Alcor wrote: i only know that they have a sick winrate lately, apart from the 2 matches in starladder finals that got them out...
Really? Every time I tune into one of their matches they're losing recently, except for that BBC game yesterday. They got knocked out of ESL New York in their first bo3. They're losing to Empire right now.
10-4 in Starladder 7-2 in The summit Playoff of D2CL (5-0 in the bracket) The game against empire are actually the final of EMC2 where they cleaned the bracket 4-0.
So no they have a great winrate, they are mostly losing only to the top teams (EG / C9 / SECRET / VG) but they are dominating the scene atm. They even took map off EG / VG so they have a really decent record. Its just not up to what fans were used to (top 3 world).
thank god u pointed out navi is currently dominating the scene. nobody else noticed
No thank to god about your reading skill tho.
Burnt
whatever dude
No hard feelings man, all good please. I felt the need to say it. ALSO FUCK U U GAY CUNT
all right all right calm down dude no need to get angry
On October 29 2014 18:44 Alcor wrote: i only know that they have a sick winrate lately, apart from the 2 matches in starladder finals that got them out...
Really? Every time I tune into one of their matches they're losing recently, except for that BBC game yesterday. They got knocked out of ESL New York in their first bo3. They're losing to Empire right now.
10-4 in Starladder 7-2 in The summit Playoff of D2CL (5-0 in the bracket) The game against empire are actually the final of EMC2 where they cleaned the bracket 4-0.
So no they have a great winrate, they are mostly losing only to the top teams (EG / C9 / SECRET / VG) but they are dominating the scene atm. They even took map off EG / VG so they have a really decent record. Its just not up to what fans were used to (top 3 world).
thank god u pointed out navi is currently dominating the scene. nobody else noticed
No thank to god about your reading skill tho.
Burnt
whatever dude
No hard feelings man, all good please. I felt the need to say it. ALSO FUCK U U GAY CUNT
all right all right calm down dude no need to get angry
Really? Every time I tune into one of their matches they're losing recently, except for that BBC game yesterday. They got knocked out of ESL New York in their first bo3. They're losing to Empire right now.
10-4 in Starladder 7-2 in The summit Playoff of D2CL (5-0 in the bracket) The game against empire are actually the final of EMC2 where they cleaned the bracket 4-0.
So no they have a great winrate, they are mostly losing only to the top teams (EG / C9 / SECRET / VG) but they are dominating the scene atm. They even took map off EG / VG so they have a really decent record. Its just not up to what fans were used to (top 3 world).
thank god u pointed out navi is currently dominating the scene. nobody else noticed
No thank to god about your reading skill tho.
Burnt
whatever dude
No hard feelings man, all good please. I felt the need to say it. ALSO FUCK U U GAY CUNT
all right all right calm down dude no need to get angry
I'm increasingly seeing less and less of a future for this team in it's current state. That was rancid, very little positives in any of those games, and a lot of terrible play.
On October 30 2014 01:50 HaXxorIzed wrote: I'm increasingly seeing less and less of a future for this team in it's current state. That was rancid, very little positives in any of those games, and a lot of terrible play.
On October 30 2014 01:50 HaXxorIzed wrote: I'm increasingly seeing less and less of a future for this team in it's current state. That was rancid, very little positives in any of those games, and a lot of terrible play.
i think they have a a future. just not one that includes them being TI champs again, but theyre still a tier 1 team by western standards
They also had the awful game against PR though. That said, it's more the way they're playing when they lose. Rather than progress or an expansion of hero pools they can competently execute/strategies/correcting mistakes, it's the same poor plays on repeat, with no real sign of progress. Inconsistent online (with some absolutely awful games), consistently in the bottom half at lan performances, etc.
After all, the Navi tag carries the expectation that anything below title contenders is not good enough - and that was supposedly the new team's goal. A lack of progress - or indeed going backwards, really doesn't look good in line with that.
On October 30 2014 01:50 HaXxorIzed wrote: I'm increasingly seeing less and less of a future for this team in it's current state. That was rancid, very little positives in any of those games, and a lot of terrible play.
i think they have a a future. just not one that includes them being TI champs again, but theyre still a tier 1 team by western standards
I guess it depends on how large you make a tier, I'd argue the only T1 Western teams are Secret and EG and maybe C9.
They also had the awful game against PR though. That said, it's more the way they're playing when they lose. Rather than progress or an expansion of hero pools they can competently execute/strategies/correcting mistakes, it's the same poor plays on repeat, with no real sign of progress. Inconsistent online (with some absolutely awful games), consistently in the bottom half at lan performances, etc.
After all, the Navi tag carries the expectation that anything below title contenders is not good enough - and that was supposedly the new team's goal. A lack of progress - or indeed going backwards, really doesn't look good in line with that.
On October 30 2014 01:50 HaXxorIzed wrote: I'm increasingly seeing less and less of a future for this team in it's current state. That was rancid, very little positives in any of those games, and a lot of terrible play.
i think they have a a future. just not one that includes them being TI champs again, but theyre still a tier 1 team by western standards
I guess it depends on how large you make a tier, I'd argue the only T1 Western teams are Secret and EG and maybe C9.
(i know, Ukrainian is not for everyone, ask in youtube comments for English Subs, as the interviewer speaks it flawlessly)
At 12:03 V1lat answers that he thinks NaVi will change roster, at least one guy probably as soon as after SLTV Season X that ended. He mentioned that he is guessing, but knowing his close insights with NaVi organization i would say there is a real chance to see someone drop from the team.
What would be your bet, who would NaVi look up to drop and whom could they pick in it's place to keep all Russian speaking team?
my bet: no freaking clue, will try to think about it...
It will be FNG. I don't agree with calls for his head but they exist. XBOCT is probably here through TI5 unless he starts touching children or something. I think Vanskor is probably safe. No idea who they pick up though.
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