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_Elendil
Italy192 Posts
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Racket
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On May 21 2017 20:38 _Elendil wrote: "not that bad". I'm fine with it. So we can beat a "not that bad team" and we lose to good teams. It's what I was saying from start. See? Even if Empire is no T1 material, they beat VP in 11 minutes. You called them T3, they are not. Even if they don't qualify for Majors. And VP is the best CIS team for the last 3 months at least. | ||
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_Elendil
Italy192 Posts
I think not. And neither Empire can. Let's see who's right in a few months? | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 22 2017 05:30 _Elendil wrote: So you think this Na'Vi team can have consistent results at majors? I think not. And neither Empire can. Let's see who's right in a few months? You are putting words in his mouth and asking loaded questions like an idiot. He said: Empire is not a T3 team. He didnt say Empire or Na'vi are teams that will consistently get to majors. Its very hard to get to the majors for T1.5 to T2 teams because the competition is quite brutal so being at that level is no guarantee of being a consistent performer at a major let alone getting to one. Thats all he is saying. You can say you dont think that is the case and thats fine, but you are betting against your self. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On May 22 2017 09:25 Rebs wrote: You are putting words in his mouth and asking loaded questions like an idiot. He said: Empire is not a T3 team. He didnt say Empire or Na'vi are teams that will consistently get to majors. Its very hard to get to the majors for T1.5 to T2 teams because the competition is quite brutal so being at that level is no guarantee of being a consistent performer at a major let alone getting to one. Thats all he is saying. You can say you dont think that is the case and thats fine, but you are betting against your self. Thanks, couldn't have explained it better. Also, NaVi won the vote for Epicenter. XD lame way to go there. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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neozxa
Indonesia545 Posts
I honestly am expecting a roster change very very soon if things dont shape up for them soon. This roster has been around for a while now I believe and still they aren't really seeing results. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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_Elendil
Italy192 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On June 05 2017 23:33 _Elendil wrote: I don't get why they disbanded the art style team to get this trash. Well Artstyle lost all his motivation after they didn't do well in 2 successive Valve events. Manila was shit bracket luck, but TI6 was a choke. Then they couldn't get reso, ditya was unwanted and sonneiko was unhappy with ditya's treatment. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
would make this team MUCH MUCH stronger i seriously dont think is a matter of skill more than they dont really fill in the same page as a team. | ||
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Racket
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FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On June 06 2017 01:43 Racket wrote: NaVi needs a captain, but someone who gives them direction and has a plan, Pajkatt is not him. Getting Reso would mean nothing if they don't have a clue ingame. Even outdrafting means nothing for them if they can't translate that into something useful. Yup. I think skill wise Navi is good enough. Dendi is still good. Doesn't have the aura noone/suma1l possesses, but he can play mid fine with a good draft. It's the strategic aspect that we are lacking. Artstyle with motivation is our saviour. Can't think of any other leaders for this team unless we wanna try new support captains. Of course pajkatt has to go because his ideas often clashes with other leaders in the team, and his playstyle is boring. I don't mind any davai carries to replace, though reso is probably the best. | ||
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_Elendil
Italy192 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On June 06 2017 06:27 Judicator wrote: The team is just not on the same page and I feel like Piecat just plays in a vacuum. Like months ago, if you were to say that this was the case, we could chalk it up to chemistry issues, but now its just trying to jam non-fitting pieces. It's very obvious they have agreed to disagree and that's just sad. It's not so much a lack of a direction, it's just players are going to different directions. Like I legit think that Biver can play at a high level if the cores can just agree to play one way. Looking at Biver play I think he can play well too. But if you want to keep the cis trio as well, then you need a good carry captain for that. There's hardly anyone that fits this role. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 06 2017 09:15 DucK- wrote: Looking at Biver play I think he can play well too. But if you want to keep the cis trio as well, then you need a good carry captain for that. There's hardly anyone that fits this role. That's the thing, I don't think carry captain should be a thing, honestly I think sonneiko should be the one shot calling it and he should be working with biver and general. Piecat I think is a better carry than any they have had, but damn those rotations are terrible. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On June 06 2017 02:17 FreakyDroid wrote: Reso would be kind of stupid to join NaVi, if the team doesnt work again, his market value would drop significantly and he has to be aware of the risk he would be taking by joining the team. NaVi should have built a new team around Sonneiko with fresh blood. Throwing money after old and established players for 4 years and getting 0 results isnt really working out for them and its about time they've realized this. If NaVi kicks Dendi and get no results they would be turning into yet another cis stack/failure. Dendi is the only thing that makes them different. If they were to kick him and turn into VP.. now we are talking, sadly I don't think that is even remotely possible. | ||
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RubickPicker
United States332 Posts
And if they can't beat CIS davai squads in BO1 they shouldn't go further, really. | ||
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