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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 30 2016 07:00 GMT
#3501
On April 30 2016 06:15 the bear jew wrote:
I'll believe Navi can make a lower bracket run. EG if they beat Spirit will be a tough challenge, but I believe in them.

Seems like they are against Empire, don't know why.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 30 2016 07:22 GMT
#3502
On April 30 2016 04:29 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2016 02:46 Faruko wrote:
they looked bad at SL, but they were amazing at Dota Pit and the major, they are a pretty good team that when they are clicking they can go toe to toe with the best of the scene.

Would not be the biggest disaster losing against MVP and EG to drop out of the tournament tbh, they are literally teams that are still a tier above navi nowadays

Its sad because the other bracket looks far easier for navi, pretty sure we could beat either AF or Empire, EG its a different beast (even if its a different roster)

Yea well, easy on the first half of the way, hard on the second. The other way around would net more $$$ for them.

On another topic, why does ArtStyle not play Doom? He does well in the jungle and is tanky enough to let him dive/suicide just like he likes to do. I would like to see how he performs with it.


Because Doom is a melee hero with an important ultimate. Artstyle with his horrible positioning will never be able to play Doom well XD On a serious note, I think if they do pick jungle Doom, sonneiko would play it instead.

I said before, I think Bounty is such a good pick against Navi, because they ALWAYS somehow fuck up sometime in mid game, and Bounty gives so much gold to the enemy.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 30 2016 10:31 GMT
#3503
We lost boys, but wathever, not that it matters much, not sure why we played against empire but still, didnt watch the games but... New patch, not much time to practice it, this tournament was always going to be kinda random... Once things settle down, pretry sure we can beat Empire

Just keep the good work, even EG looks shaky so soon
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
April 30 2016 11:35 GMT
#3504
Yeah, disappointing, but i'll chalk it up to new patch, experimentation, and hope they do better at next tournament.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
RubickPicker
Profile Joined October 2015
United States332 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 11:58:47
April 30 2016 11:56 GMT
#3505
No team looks good right now. Secret lost in embarrassing fashion. EG is struggling with Peru teams again, and it's possible DigitalChaos could be stronger than them in NA. Liquid might still be strong, but we don't know.

This team's only problem is shallow heroes causing them to lose grasp of this patch. Dendi used to play so many heroes at a top level, or at least a core at a top level but a large pool at a level that looked acceptable; but these days he seems to be limited to just a few. You never saw him play Ember Spirit at all during this short reign, for example. His last Ember game was three months ago. His last competitive Alchemist game was December 2013.

He has some practice to do.
* N U K E D *
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
April 30 2016 13:01 GMT
#3506
I think the team's biggest weakness still is consistency, day to day, series to series. They can look and play really well, but then can't keep it up consistently.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 16:02:05
April 30 2016 16:01 GMT
#3507
On April 30 2016 22:01 the bear jew wrote:
I think the team's biggest weakness still is consistency, day to day, series to series. They can look and play really well, but then can't keep it up consistently.

From their loss to Danish Bears till this tournament they looked very strong and capable. Hopefully when the Major arrives they will be on the same level.

Also, ArtStyle keeps getting banned. They have to find a way around it.
Abductedonut
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States324 Posts
April 30 2016 17:17 GMT
#3508
I also think Dendi needs to polish his invoker a little bit. He just seems to have a hard time landing good combos, I dunno. I'm not an invoker player so I don't really know how to hero works but watching some like Miracle and then Dendi it just seems Dendi has a lower impact overall. (it's very scary to see a Miracle invoker)
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 30 2016 18:09 GMT
#3509
On May 01 2016 02:17 Abductedonut wrote:
I also think Dendi needs to polish his invoker a little bit. He just seems to have a hard time landing good combos, I dunno. I'm not an invoker player so I don't really know how to hero works but watching some like Miracle and then Dendi it just seems Dendi has a lower impact overall. (it's very scary to see a Miracle invoker)

I have seen games where Dendi carried hard on Invoker. Watching Miracle playing pubs cannot be compared to any pro game. The way both games develop and are approached is completely different.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 19:53:20
April 30 2016 19:52 GMT
#3510
I actually believe they lack consistency tbh, they have a decent hero pool (bar artstyle) and while dendi could kearn a hero or 2 (Alche would be great) its not like he actually lacks in options

When they are playing well and they are focused, they have thw tools, they are cohesive, move like a unit and even have discipline.

But getting to do that in every match and keep your head cool even in the worst situations (which they have done, more than once this line up) its one of the hardest things to do in the game (and in any other sport/esport for all that matter)

So, while im not worried for Navi in general, im worried that this consostency doesnt show up by the major time, if it shows we are in the clear to do a decent/good tournament.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 30 2016 20:50 GMT
#3511
On May 01 2016 04:52 Faruko wrote:
I actually believe they lack consistency tbh, they have a decent hero pool (bar artstyle) and while dendi could kearn a hero or 2 (Alche would be great) its not like he actually lacks in options

When they are playing well and they are focused, they have thw tools, they are cohesive, move like a unit and even have discipline.

But getting to do that in every match and keep your head cool even in the worst situations (which they have done, more than once this line up) its one of the hardest things to do in the game (and in any other sport/esport for all that matter)

So, while im not worried for Navi in general, im worried that this consostency doesnt show up by the major time, if it shows we are in the clear to do a decent/good tournament.

I agree and I am afraid that this lack of consistency may translate, sooner or later, to comunication problems and internal conflict. Hopefully it won't happen for a long time. We will see
copocom
Profile Joined March 2016
Indonesia4 Posts
April 30 2016 22:53 GMT
#3512
--- Nuked ---
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 01 2016 05:12 GMT
#3513
On May 01 2016 07:53 copocom wrote:
dendi play supp with bane mmr ranked >>>>> : www.youtube.com

I am totally sure he will have a lot of fun when he switches to supp professionally.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 01 2016 05:34 GMT
#3514
I really never believed that navi will start winning tournaments again. All I'm asking is for them to give teams a hard time, as well as the occasional upsets.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 01 2016 07:15 GMT
#3515
On May 01 2016 14:34 DucK- wrote:
I really never believed that navi will start winning tournaments again. All I'm asking is for them to give teams a hard time, as well as the occasional upsets.

Be a part of the scene you mean? Like VP 2/3 months ago. That would be quite nice, for a start.
razor10854
Profile Joined May 2016
Indonesia8 Posts
May 02 2016 03:13 GMT
#3516
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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 03 2016 12:47 GMT
#3517
This qualifier is so scary... NaVi really dodged the bullet there.

I think Icefrog really f*cked up releasing the patch so close to the quals.
Souldivnr
Profile Joined September 2015
Cuba127 Posts
May 03 2016 14:13 GMT
#3518
Ok, noob question, why people comment "---Nuked---" so often? What does it mean?
"Puppey is always the BOSS"- XBOCT 2016
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 14:19:49
May 03 2016 14:18 GMT
#3519
On May 03 2016 23:13 Souldivnr wrote:
Ok, noob question, why people comment "---Nuked---" so often? What does it mean?

When people join the site to spam malicious or unwanted messages they get banned an all their posts change to "--Nuked--"
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Souldivnr
Profile Joined September 2015
Cuba127 Posts
May 03 2016 14:32 GMT
#3520
On May 03 2016 23:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2016 23:13 Souldivnr wrote:
Ok, noob question, why people comment "---Nuked---" so often? What does it mean?

When people join the site to spam malicious or unwanted messages they get banned an all their posts change to "--Nuked--"


Thanks.
"Puppey is always the BOSS"- XBOCT 2016
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