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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On August 05 2015 05:19 caiovigg wrote: I have the motivation to play on a pro team, but Im just a 4k scrub. They REALLY should kick artstyle. I'm undecided on ArtStyle. He's had a lot to do since coming back to real pro Dota. I definitely think Funn1k has lost it. XBOCT it feels like everything needs to be perfect, and I think he and Dendi enable each other's primadonna tendencies. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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Angeloidus
Russian Federation251 Posts
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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
On August 05 2015 10:28 Angeloidus wrote: Funn1k and Sonneiko removed their Na'Vi background on twitter @SoNNeikO_o @Funn1kDota SO IT BEGINS | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
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MyrMindservant
695 Posts
This could also be yet another bug/feature of the twitter service itself. Just like last year when there was a lot of speculations based on twitter background and all of them turned out to be caused by twitter not displaying it in some cases. I don't know anything for sure, maybe something is going on indeed. But I dislike baseless speculations and currently this is nothing more than that. Edit: On August 05 2015 11:45 Salazarz wrote: Will be sad if Na'Vi end up re-reshuffling again. Honestly the only thing they really need is to get some faith in themselves back; more scrims and small tournaments where they can win -- no matter against what opposition, and start believing in winning again. Changing players again won't lead to anything -- and it's not like anyone from Na'Vi has better options, anyway, unless they are going to retire or something. Agree with this. | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
On August 05 2015 11:48 MyrMindservant wrote: Or they simply did not have it set to begin with. Most pro players are really lazy to update their twitter. DkPhobos' twitter still links to the Na'Vi website for example. This could also be yet another bug/feature of the twitter service itself. Just like last year when there was a lot of speculations based on twitter background and all of them turned out to be caused by twitter not displaying it in some cases. I don't know anything for sure, maybe something is going on indeed. But I dislike baseless speculations and currently this is nothing more than that. Edit: Agree with this. Nah, it actually looks like Sonneiko is going. He tweeted, 'soon everything will be different' shortly after yesterday's loss, doubt that's a motivational kind of 'we'll get better soon' kind of thing. Really sad because if you look at how other teams played at the mainstage, Na'Vi's one game really didn't even look bad and I definitely feel like they could be in much better shape come majors. Oh well. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
On August 05 2015 11:48 MyrMindservant wrote: Or they simply did not have it set to begin with. Most pro players are really lazy to update their twitter. DkPhobos' twitter still links to the Na'Vi website for example. This could also be yet another bug/feature of the twitter service itself. Just like last year when there was a lot of speculations based on twitter background and all of them turned out to be caused by twitter not displaying it in some cases. I don't know anything for sure, maybe something is going on indeed. But I dislike baseless speculations and currently this is nothing more than that. Edit: Agree with this. Insn't DK phobos a programmer for navi or something like this? Maybe thats the reason his twitter links to NAVI site. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Racket
3023 Posts
On August 05 2015 19:58 SilverSkyLark wrote: Err, why didn't ArtStyle get a 3rd level on weave in their game against ViCi? I'm not sure if this is the right thread. Well, you won't get an answer from ArtStyle himself but my contribution is he couldn't as he was only level 15 when the game ended. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On August 05 2015 10:28 Angeloidus wrote: Funn1k and Sonneiko removed their Na'Vi background on twitter @SoNNeikO_o @Funn1kDota i really really doubt that means anything IMO, i doubt the organization would take a decision that fast without talking it over and bla bla bla, especially how hard was for NaVi to find a decent to good team if thats true it must be the players choice to leave | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On August 05 2015 10:28 Angeloidus wrote: Funn1k and Sonneiko removed their Na'Vi background on twitter @SoNNeikO_o @Funn1kDota While I feel Sonneiko was too good for that team I hope he doesn't let that type of praise go to his head. If he wants to build up a new team some humility is important as a Captain. More importantly at his young age he still needs to carefully consider his own future mistakes instead of thinking "I'm so awesome the team's failings are the other people." I'm wouldn't be surprised if Funnik is voluntarily leaving. He already had a poor outlook of Navi last winter and his one last hope was Artstyle. Artstyle sort of failed but that to me is the key point, sort of. He was definitely a positive overall influence for the team so I personally would've seen what happens for another 4 months to see how can discipline and refine the team. Navi shouldn't have expected amazing results. | ||
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Alcor
Italy137 Posts
so the reshuffle will be way faster than in the previous years, i fear that in the haste of picking the right squad for next TI (lol) many (wrong) choices will be made, and not only from na'vi. | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
I saw Artstyle walking into the event this afternoon and asked him to sign my badge. He agreed and signed it. It wasn't until he was walking away I noticed my badge wasn't signed. I was confused until I looked over at him and saw he had autographed his own badge. On August 06 2015 01:31 Alcor wrote: they can not wait 4 months. new majors system asks the teams to fix the squad within a couple of weeks after the international, plus one reserve. so the reshuffle will be way faster than in the previous years, i fear that in the haste of picking the right squad for next TI (lol) many (wrong) choices will be made, and not only from na'vi. That's why I said wait 4 months. They can see how the team has improved without the pressure of TI during the next majors. If they still can't place top 4 in that then a change is needed. | ||
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Gevna
France2332 Posts
On August 06 2015 01:31 Alcor wrote: they can not wait 4 months. new majors system asks the teams to fix the squad within a couple of weeks after the international, plus one reserve. so the reshuffle will be way faster than in the previous years, i fear that in the haste of picking the right squad for next TI (lol) many (wrong) choices will be made, and not only from na'vi. Well for me it's kinda obvious what they have to do if they want to be relevant next year. After watching Ugin's interview, I'm now sure that they have to drop Hvost / Dendi / Funnik. After TI4 and the whole year of being terrible, they still don't know that in Dota you have to listen to your captain and follow a gameplan. It feels hopeless. Puppey, fng, Goblak, Artstyle, all of them were just confronted to a wall. This is not how Dota works. And, unfortunately they won't change their mentality. Build a new team around Sonneiko, keep the guys who are willing to actually play dota as a team (Dendi ?) and try to pick up the good players available (according to the team's mentality and playstyle). Now I'm not sure if Sonneiko has what it takes to captain a team, so maybe find a good captain along him. I just don't want to go through another year of primadonas believing that they know better than everyone. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On August 05 2015 22:35 Faruko wrote: i really really doubt that means anything IMO, i doubt the organization would take a decision that fast without talking it over and bla bla bla, especially how hard was for NaVi to find a decent to good team if thats true it must be the players choice to leave If removing the background plus his tweet were to mean something, I guess it would be he was scouted by someone who offered a really good opportunity and he got aboard instantly. I don't think his tweet is NaVi related, makes no sense that fast. I hope it means nothing tied to leaving the team. | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On August 06 2015 02:18 Salazarz wrote: I can see why some would want to see Funn1k or, to a lesser extent, Dendi gone. Why the constant hate on Xboct though? He's been Na'Vi's best (or second best since Sonneiko's joining) player for a long time, and is at least on par with the other CIS carries such as Silent and Illidan, likely better. I think your core assertion is what people are disagreeing on. | ||
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Alcor
Italy137 Posts
in the manager interview, he said Sonneiko, artstyle and Dendi really want to win. he was vague about xboct and funnik. for me if nothing big happens (like Dendi's persuasion) xboct will leave. Funnik: possible, given the interview, the twitter thing and the fact he's married and left already sonneiko? well, for me he'll be gone if nobody else leaves, or maybe he really has gone away already. puppey and kuro did the same decision in the same moment: the exact evening na'vi was eliminated from ti4. i think Dendi won't leave, just because na'vi wont let him go. they'll cover him w money to keep his image linked w the brand. i think Artstyle will remain w na'vi too, he just came back, after all. | ||
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