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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-26 15:33:17
November 26 2017 15:31 GMT
#3121
I want them to finish top 4 minimum but we played very well in the qualifier if you remember, we were on fire beating COL very easily who destroyed the likes of Optic in another qualifier too. So i expect top 4 and hope for the win :D

The bracket is super hard for us but at least it is double elimination! Still hopefully Secret be a bit tired from all their traveling i mean they just finished in China, now have to go to Sweden!

Oh nice it starts friday and i booked a day off hype!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
November 30 2017 23:51 GMT
#3122
On November 27 2017 00:31 Pandemona wrote:
I want them to finish top 4 minimum but we played very well in the qualifier if you remember, we were on fire beating COL very easily who destroyed the likes of Optic in another qualifier too. So i expect top 4 and hope for the win :D

The bracket is super hard for us but at least it is double elimination! Still hopefully Secret be a bit tired from all their traveling i mean they just finished in China, now have to go to Sweden!

Oh nice it starts friday and i booked a day off hype!


just out of curiosity, why do you refer to EG as "we"? i just find it funny that fans can be so immersed in it, they think they are apart of the team and organization. no BM intended. lol. I do realize it's a sports thing but i never understood it.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 01 2017 01:07 GMT
#3123
I'm going to go with a couple of different reasons.

It's naturally a lot easier to say something like we beat you when talking to an opponents fan than my team beat your team, or EG beat Secret. Or picture a group of friends at a bar watching a football game and your team won, it's just easier to say something like "Ya we won" than "Ya the Patriots won!"

When antagonizing other people for their sport team, by calling it we/us and you, it makes it more personal so the harassment is likely to be more potent.

Some people dedicate a shit ton of their lives to their sports. Picture how much time diehard fans of a Baseball team spend watching the games and reading the news on their team. They probably spend so much time on it that it legitimately feels like the team is a part of their life.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
December 01 2017 01:49 GMT
#3124
On December 01 2017 10:07 Chewbacca. wrote:
I'm going to go with a couple of different reasons.

It's naturally a lot easier to say something like we beat you when talking to an opponents fan than my team beat your team, or EG beat Secret. Or picture a group of friends at a bar watching a football game and your team won, it's just easier to say something like "Ya we won" than "Ya the Patriots won!"

When antagonizing other people for their sport team, by calling it we/us and you, it makes it more personal so the harassment is likely to be more potent.

Some people dedicate a shit ton of their lives to their sports. Picture how much time diehard fans of a Baseball team spend watching the games and reading the news on their team. They probably spend so much time on it that it legitimately feels like the team is a part of their life.


Yeah i can understand the time investment. but regardless, these are the same individuals who are extremely violent and radical. and why in sporting events break out in fights over something that is not necessarily even necessary. it's almost like at some point you have to delude yourself that you are apart of it, due to how obsessed you've become, and i find that quite scary and how commonly it happens.

I guess in my case i understand but the concept still seems so foreign to me. simple labels, results in this myriad of self delusion and behavior of speech. I mean just look at the way the 2017 election was, people were killing each other due to simply siding with either republicans and democrats. i guess i'm just baffled at how idiotic people are in a simple title. the concept is laughable to me, so i never take anyone who falls to this kinda logic seriously.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 01 2017 02:59 GMT
#3125
On December 01 2017 10:49 saocyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2017 10:07 Chewbacca. wrote:
I'm going to go with a couple of different reasons.

It's naturally a lot easier to say something like we beat you when talking to an opponents fan than my team beat your team, or EG beat Secret. Or picture a group of friends at a bar watching a football game and your team won, it's just easier to say something like "Ya we won" than "Ya the Patriots won!"

When antagonizing other people for their sport team, by calling it we/us and you, it makes it more personal so the harassment is likely to be more potent.

Some people dedicate a shit ton of their lives to their sports. Picture how much time diehard fans of a Baseball team spend watching the games and reading the news on their team. They probably spend so much time on it that it legitimately feels like the team is a part of their life.


Yeah i can understand the time investment. but regardless, these are the same individuals who are extremely violent and radical. and why in sporting events break out in fights over something that is not necessarily even necessary. it's almost like at some point you have to delude yourself that you are apart of it, due to how obsessed you've become, and i find that quite scary and how commonly it happens.

I guess in my case i understand but the concept still seems so foreign to me. simple labels, results in this myriad of self delusion and behavior of speech. I mean just look at the way the 2017 election was, people were killing each other due to simply siding with either republicans and democrats. i guess i'm just baffled at how idiotic people are in a simple title. the concept is laughable to me, so i never take anyone who falls to this kinda logic seriously.


Also have to remember that sporting events typically involve large amounts of alcohol in the pre-game tailgate followed by large amounts of alcohol during the game, then opposing fans next to you bad mouthing something that you presumably support/hold dear. It isn't surprising when people with limited self control get into fights under these conditions.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
December 01 2017 07:49 GMT
#3126
On December 01 2017 10:49 saocyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2017 10:07 Chewbacca. wrote:
I'm going to go with a couple of different reasons.

It's naturally a lot easier to say something like we beat you when talking to an opponents fan than my team beat your team, or EG beat Secret. Or picture a group of friends at a bar watching a football game and your team won, it's just easier to say something like "Ya we won" than "Ya the Patriots won!"

When antagonizing other people for their sport team, by calling it we/us and you, it makes it more personal so the harassment is likely to be more potent.

Some people dedicate a shit ton of their lives to their sports. Picture how much time diehard fans of a Baseball team spend watching the games and reading the news on their team. They probably spend so much time on it that it legitimately feels like the team is a part of their life.


Yeah i can understand the time investment. but regardless, these are the same individuals who are extremely violent and radical. and why in sporting events break out in fights over something that is not necessarily even necessary. it's almost like at some point you have to delude yourself that you are apart of it, due to how obsessed you've become, and i find that quite scary and how commonly it happens.

I guess in my case i understand but the concept still seems so foreign to me. simple labels, results in this myriad of self delusion and behavior of speech. I mean just look at the way the 2017 election was, people were killing each other due to simply siding with either republicans and democrats. i guess i'm just baffled at how idiotic people are in a simple title. the concept is laughable to me, so i never take anyone who falls to this kinda logic seriously.

I use "we" for the team I support both in football and in dota, I have invested large amounts of time into both games. But I am not extremely violent, not even a little violent I think or radical... I just love these games, and have found teams that I like and want to support. Both fans and the players alike use the term "we" for the supporters as they are indeed a part of the club... If there are no supporters, there wont be any club (atleast not of any importance).
Using "we" to talk about your team is very normal, and not at all delusional... It just means u feel like your part of something, and as a fan you really are.
Sorry for bad english, sitting on phone at work

Anyways, go EG today! Secret been a bit up and down lately, but for the most part they look strong.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 01 2017 10:17 GMT
#3127
Yeah like others say, i have invested in EG alot just like Chelsea my football team, Chelsea alot more way more, 20 years of my life, where as EG i found through sc2 back in 2010 etc so yeah i just invest and it becomes we and becomes that weird sense. Might be an English/European thing idk.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
December 01 2017 10:34 GMT
#3128
Think in normal sports are seen as part of the club. When players talk about a victory the often give credit to fans for support. you talk about the twelth man in football, and you cant imagine playing without spectators. The fans are part of the club and you can talk about WE.
Of cause everybody know is playing and winning. You can break it down to individual archievements and as the saying goes "in the end everybody dies alone", but think people like being part of a community and feel share in victory even they didnt earn themself, and i think its fine to do that.
GO OG
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7728 Posts
December 01 2017 10:42 GMT
#3129
EG vs Secret and I'm at work ; ; oh well there's always vods and whatnot. EG bois fighting!
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 01 2017 13:33 GMT
#3130
On December 01 2017 19:42 PoulsenB wrote:
EG vs Secret and I'm at work ; ; oh well there's always vods and whatnot. EG bois fighting!

Yeah i'll link you this for spoiler free vods, it is what i use!

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotaVods/comments/7gmida/dreamleague_season_8/

Spoiler free vods <3 this saves me when im normally in a position like yourself, luckily i booked today off randomly and it fell perfectly :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7728 Posts
December 01 2017 14:21 GMT
#3131
On December 01 2017 22:33 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2017 19:42 PoulsenB wrote:
EG vs Secret and I'm at work ; ; oh well there's always vods and whatnot. EG bois fighting!

Yeah i'll link you this for spoiler free vods, it is what i use!

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotaVods/comments/7gmida/dreamleague_season_8/

Spoiler free vods <3 this saves me when im normally in a position like yourself, luckily i booked today off randomly and it fell perfectly :D

Thx m8, though I usually take a peek at the LR thread in such situations ;]
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 16:38:03
December 01 2017 16:37 GMT
#3132
Man, why is EG doing so bad

EZ 2 - 0 for Secret...
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 01 2017 16:42 GMT
#3133
So
Liquid stopped picking wisp this patch in first phases
EG come in on mediocre Cr1t thinking they can bring it back?

I mean they weren't a favourite vs Secret
but damn cmon
make them work for it
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
December 01 2017 16:51 GMT
#3134
On December 02 2017 01:37 Atoissen wrote:
Man, why is EG doing so bad

EZ 2 - 0 for Secret...

Fear captain is looking pretty bad. Also rtz and sumail are playing pretty shit for month now.
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
December 01 2017 16:51 GMT
#3135
Fear is drafting ?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 01 2017 16:53 GMT
#3136
Tough start to the day. I questioned them flying into Sweden on Thursday and proven right as they all woke up at 2am this morning because of jet lag, Sumail has had no sleep supposedly haha

They prioritising Io Tiny which is fine, game 1 was just an out ratting, in a straight 5v5 it would have been interesting but they did the same shit vs Penta a couple of days before so EG clearly didn't read up on that.
Game 2 was just straight out draft and they got suckered into putting the tiny io mid instead of finding something else for sumail to play. Rtz gets shut down and it just not a contest from minute 5 really.

No worries, we are lower bracket team for a reason :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
December 01 2017 16:58 GMT
#3137
I don't see them beating loser of VP/Liquid, if they can even beat Infamous.

Next tournament.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
December 01 2017 16:58 GMT
#3138
EG day 1 lol

They needed to have their butts kicked to wake up tho. You can't be the best doing the average, you would thought they got the memo when Liquid tryharded the whole year to win TI.
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
December 01 2017 16:58 GMT
#3139
I don't see them beating loser of VP/Liquid, if they can even beat Infamous.

Next tournament.

Or disband.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 17:06:32
December 01 2017 17:04 GMT
#3140
Lol
hold your Horses
Secret took games off Liquid this season they are no pushovers
EG made it to Major unlike other NA teams and were jet-lagged
Far far away from a disband
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
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