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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
December 02 2017 21:54 GMT
#3161
It looks like reports of EG's death were grossly exaggerated
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
December 02 2017 22:00 GMT
#3162
TTTTTTOPPP 3 :D

Haha so good, we did so well not tilting out of it in game 2 vs NaVi and our team fights are back to what they have been like which is also perfect.
Going to be extremely tough vs Liquid tomorrow but these are the games we must win to get back to our best!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
December 02 2017 22:03 GMT
#3163
I loved that t3 dive on Crystallize, killing him ontop of t4 towers when t1 tower in mid is still up <3
The boys look so good all of a sudden... Great and entertaining games!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-02 22:04:25
December 02 2017 22:03 GMT
#3164
Liquid are going to be a real test, but if the drafts are on point the boys can do it. Crit and Fear seem to be meshing well as a supp duo, RTZ and Sumail also stepped up their game big time. And Uni is just doing Uni things

Bleed blue!
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 03 2017 03:24 GMT
#3165
On December 01 2017 22:33 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2017 19:42 PoulsenB wrote:
EG vs Secret and I'm at work ; ; oh well there's always vods and whatnot. EG bois fighting!

Yeah i'll link you this for spoiler free vods, it is what i use!

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotaVods/comments/7gmida/dreamleague_season_8/

Spoiler free vods <3 this saves me when im normally in a position like yourself, luckily i booked today off randomly and it fell perfectly :D


Thanks for this buddy, has been very useful. Always my luck to get stuck with weekend duty on the days of EG tournament games.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 03 2017 08:23 GMT
#3166
On December 03 2017 06:54 PoulsenB wrote:
It looks like reports of EG's death were grossly exaggerated

It was one guy in here lul
Although they surprised me even TOP3
VP just doesn't like their loser brackets playing after a loss


I mean they still are a big dog vs Liquid but no matter what happens this was a great success
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
December 03 2017 09:09 GMT
#3167
On December 03 2017 17:23 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 06:54 PoulsenB wrote:
It looks like reports of EG's death were grossly exaggerated

It was one guy in here lul
Although they surprised me even TOP3
VP just doesn't like their loser brackets playing after a loss


I mean they still are a big dog vs Liquid but no matter what happens this was a great success

For me top3 is a great success this tournament... I was expecting them to need some time, and beating VP was a really good result for them. VP, Liquid and Secret are the top teams in the West.
Todays games vrs Liquid can go so many ways, Liquid have come back from losses hard before, winning games in 20 mins.
But I hope EG have the momentum from yesterday and give them a good fight!

Heart 2-1 EG
Head 2-1 Liquid

“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
December 03 2017 11:30 GMT
#3168
EG gave a bit to much respect to Liquid it seemed... Played a bit nervous and didnt get enough out of the Sand King in the mid game.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
December 03 2017 11:34 GMT
#3169
Yeah not sure what they were thinking about during the early mid game when they went passive. Cr1t did have a stupidly early blink timing though he had it up way fast but they didn't see to do anything against PL until to late.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
December 03 2017 12:11 GMT
#3170
Well... this is what I was afraid of, Liquid often come back swinging the day after a loss... Incredible game form Liquid, Miracle is way to good with these mobile heroes...
Anyway, top3 is a good result atm for EG, and I think they learned alott from this, gg bleed blue!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
December 03 2017 12:18 GMT
#3171
Damn, that stomp in game 2 But top 3 is good, they seem to be going in the right direction, keep it up bois

Bleed blue!
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
quake
Profile Joined May 2010
United States30 Posts
December 03 2017 12:19 GMT
#3172
I'll be honest, top 3 is better than I expected. Although... As big as an EG fan as I am... That was a complete stomp. What a thrashing wow. I notice they haven't been super aggressive towards the enemy safelane. Going by the games vs Secret and the games vs Liquid. It has ended up biting them in the rear in the end.
whats up?
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 03 2017 13:28 GMT
#3173
Gg, don't think anyone would dream of a top3 finish even a few weeks back before the qualifiers
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 15:22:31
December 03 2017 15:17 GMT
#3174
On December 03 2017 17:23 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2017 06:54 PoulsenB wrote:
It looks like reports of EG's death were grossly exaggerated

It was one guy in here lul
Although they surprised me even TOP3
VP just doesn't like their loser brackets playing after a loss


I mean they still are a big dog vs Liquid but no matter what happens this was a great success


Shhh

In all honesty, I vastly underestimated Secret. Yes, they were on a hot streak, but I expected the Cty standin to kind of quench that. I had Secret below the likes of VP and Newbee.

Coming out 3rd, behind TL and Secret is be a major win.

Edit: I've just thought of something. In this tournament, EG finally defined their style and picked heroes to supplement that. Do you think part of EG's problems in the past year was that they tried too hard to innovate, e.g., to pick too many different heroes before their style was defined (to them)?
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
December 03 2017 20:09 GMT
#3175
man what a fall from grace. i remembered when EG were the team everyone feared, and to see them beat like that is just whoa....out of all things to lose to a 4 protect 1 strat 2 times in a row, it wasn't even really a 4 protect 1 as miracle never was even pressured. i was more surprised when miracle had back to back kills on universe out of all people....
it happened not just in 1 game but both games in a row.

i really think it has to do with the picks, eg doesn't quite find their footing and their team composition doesn't allow for individual skills to shine. them not getting the meta is also affecting everything. its almost like because eg has such a powerhouse of a team, they expect to win every lane, but when one lane goes bad, everything starts falling apart. this is even more true for rtz, who i felt hasn't been a dominant carry at all....since he switched the mid role. with farm or no farm, he doesn't tip the scale in the team's favor....even if he gets farm he doesn't dominate everyone. its usually universe and sumail coming online and then rtz gets a footing, but if they don't, rtz is screwed. kinda hoping they get their dominant streak back.

secret is looking stupid good. i always had a sense that they were the type of team who kinda suffered like eg, power house players but failed short and it was rinse and repeat of this phenomenon, but it looks like they really found their footing especially the way they beat liquid.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 20:20:28
December 03 2017 20:19 GMT
#3176
One lost series (and to one of the strongest teams this year and the current TI champion) does not make a trend. Also I don't understand the hate on RTZ, in this tournament he was always the one who kept up with the opponents even if the team fell behind, and whenever he got a good start he got completely massive, getting like 5-6k networth lead over any other hero in the game. Also he had very few silly deaths.

Nothing lasts forever and right now EG are in this weird spot where they are still good, but no longer among the best. I'm sure thay can tighten their play and figure out the patch to the point where they can win tournaments. As the examples of Liquid and now Secret show, all they need is time and sticking together.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
December 03 2017 20:25 GMT
#3177
On December 04 2017 05:19 PoulsenB wrote:
One lost series (and to one of the strongest teams this year and the current TI champion) does not make a trend. Also I don't understand the hate on RTZ, in this tournament he was always the one who kept up with the opponents even if the team fell behind, and whenever he got a good start he got completely massive, getting like 5-6k networth lead over any other hero in the game. Also he had very few silly deaths.

Nothing lasts forever and right now EG are in this weird spot where they are still good, but no longer among the best. I'm sure thay can tighten their play and figure out the patch to the point where they can win tournaments. As the examples of Liquid and now Secret show, all they need is time and sticking together.


i agree. my sentiments among rtz are not simply due to this tournament but a pattern amongst all his tournaments ever since he had rejoined eg. he just doesn't appear dominant. his lead maybe massive but even then it's not great, if you compare guys like burning, rtz comes short in terms of massive leads in last hitting. if you compare the way miracle plays his carry role vs the way rtz does, you can see huge differences. and i make that comparison due to the fact both of them were originally mid players who transitioned to the carry role, i don't know how permanent miracles is though.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
December 04 2017 08:53 GMT
#3178
Yeah top 3 at a major, that is more points, beating some good teams along the way and then falling short vs Liquid. I think they have learnt so much about this patch in this tournament and gaining lots of TI points i can't see it being a negative tbh.
Now we need to build form here so the next time we face Secret and Liquid we are competitive against them build on that. Always the goal of being champion by the time TI rolls round :D

Next up Summit8
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
December 04 2017 10:50 GMT
#3179
The Summit is much less stacked than DreamLeague, if they keep improving I think they have a decent shot at a win, or at least Grand Finals there. But I'll be so torn if they play against Kinguin
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
December 05 2017 12:49 GMT
#3180
Haha! The format is so weird due to 9 teams. Doing 3 groups of 3! Win group = Semi Finals, then all 2nd place and best 3rd place into a play off to get 4th semi final spot :s
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
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