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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 29 2017 16:10 GMT
#3041
Yeah i agree, i mean what Fear says is just pandering to reddit comments probably. But it's fine im sad they lost, i think they look not so good, but a new patch is coming next time and they have a nice amount of time to practice it before they head into qualifiers for the next batches of tournaments. Plenty of points still up for grabs, plenty of time to get better. Now we just continue to hope they stay together and comeback to their best next patch.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 29 2017 16:33 GMT
#3042
Yeah, I hope they do it like Liquid or VP and stick together for a long time, you can see that the skill is there, they just need time to really click with each other and build that solid consistency they need to crush lesser teams and to go toe to toe with the best ones.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 29 2017 16:35 GMT
#3043
Yeah as long as they are still the same team going into TI i would rate their chances very high at taking it.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
October 29 2017 17:20 GMT
#3044
That fear tweet was made over a week ago
rip
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
October 29 2017 21:44 GMT
#3045
Sorry for being a party pooper , but i love Fear/Sumail/Universe and i feel that RTZ is not the carry that EG needs , he is a win more player , if the team is owning he will be owning as well , i think that on even games he is not performing to the level required , he gets the farm (as #1 of course) and he does not utilize it in a way that helps the team to the degree that he needs too , not even talking about games he is behind.
The sad thing for me in this EG that there was nothing glaring about their play that looked off to me , i hope they can put it together in the new patch but i feel that RTZ is not the #1 that will get them there.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
October 29 2017 21:50 GMT
#3046
Sumail interview after theier loss too Newbee at ESL:


With theier decent games vrs Newbee and hearing Sumail in this interwiev im getting a bit positive again, I think they just need to stick together, work hard and find theier form.
Bleed Blue!!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
MessiahGaming
Profile Joined November 2017
7 Posts
November 01 2017 07:52 GMT
#3047
Hi,
If anyone able to contact with Sumail or Universe, please help me to deliver this message:

- You need to understand to problem to able to solve the problem. In term of raw skill, EG players are the best beside team Liquid. The only difference is all 5 EG players are not on the same page.

- Where is your nickname come from? Come from thought world (spirit world), do not tell me that come from muscle building world, if you can agree that then listen continue:
I am the master in Earth planet right now, I can easily see Crit & Fear are the weakest link right now on team EG, they are not match Sumail, RTZ & Universe in term of spirit aura & energy. Just look at the nickname can see the failure already.
“Crit”: mean you are weak and need some “RNG” to win
“Fear”: mean you are weak and scare others.

While
“Sumail”: mean delivery the winning game
“RTZ”: easy game, it just an art
“Universe”: the whole Universe is behind and support you.

I can guess base on 1 dimensional observe online: Sumail is incarnated of prophet Muhammed in Islam while Universe is incarnated of Lord Krisna in Hindu.

If you want EG great again, you must replace “Crit & Fear” by others players like “Jerus looking SVG” or even “Purge”, support player require very little skill, mostly is needed most is strategy.

DO not call this is bullshit, you need to find and look at others angle rather than just practice and finding guessing game bug.

I hope this messages will able to be read and hear by Sumail, Universe & RTZ
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
November 01 2017 08:26 GMT
#3048
Well if I see them around I’ll let em know!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
November 01 2017 10:06 GMT
#3049
I have talked to cri1- and fear.

Cri1 is in doubt over what name to chose and want your opion on these: HappyBunny, BuffetOfLove and Euforia.

Fear dont want a big change so he decieded to change his name to Dear, one letter big difference.

My the Force be with you.
GO OG
MessiahGaming
Profile Joined November 2017
7 Posts
November 01 2017 11:57 GMT
#3050
Hi sapajo,
Who are you? Are you really talked to both Crit & Fear in matter of hour?
If that was true, then it’s great.

“Fear”: It is ok to change to Dear, another alternative is Fearless, but Dear is great no problem.
“Crit”: If “Fear” change to “Dear” then “BuffetOfLove” is the best choice since they are duo-support. While if Fear change to “Fearless” then “Euforia”.

That is just some nickname meaning magic, as long as positive meaning then it is ok.

In term of gameplay:
I highly recommend RTZ and Universe switch position. RTZ play style is too reckless while Universe is very carefully, and in Dota2 pos1 is need to be carefully while pos3 can play jetbaited and reckless.

That’s just my suggestion about positions, while if keep the current position, RTZ must play more carefully and EG need to have a better understanding about the game so they read and have the best decision in mid-late game and pre-match plan.

Dota2 is an unfair and more like finding bug oppa heroes, to understand more please read http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/528292-how-to-make-dota2-great-again

It seem Dota2 has a new patch but it doesn’t change much in term of competitive play, it just up and down heroes & items.

That is seem a lot to digest already, I knew a lot and can easily out-draft any pro-team if the current system still unchanged. Team Liquid Win Ti7 because they spent a lot of time about pre-match draft & strategy. EG need spend more time to think about drafting & strategy, since the differrence between players skill close to 0.

I cannot share more sensitive information here public since every team would copy....

Regard,
MessiahGaming
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
November 01 2017 12:10 GMT
#3051
Mr. MessiahGaming,

I plead you to post this on reddit (r/dota2), as there, and only there you'll find recognition for your work.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 01 2017 12:15 GMT
#3052
indeed
EG players are more likely to check a reddit thread than a tl one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 01 2017 12:27 GMT
#3053
ur posting this on the website of the enemy afterall
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
November 01 2017 12:52 GMT
#3054
I was using irony to respond to a very strange post, that says EG main problems is players name.
But disclaimer i haven't talked to them.
Also saying that support players don't need skill makes me think like you haven't seen dota in a long time.
Sorry for feeding the troll guys.
GO OG
MessiahGaming
Profile Joined November 2017
7 Posts
November 01 2017 13:28 GMT
#3055
I just created a thread at https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/7a3iej/eg_dota2_squad_suggestion/ but it seems new user thread will be never be read and discussed.

I am quite surprised that a big team like EG doesn't have a forum to connect the fan with the players. Its free to using myphpbb forum script or even using 100% cloud base free no ads like freeboards.org, etc.

I have a lot of nothing else to say about sapajo...........
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 01 2017 14:23 GMT
#3056
im disappointed sapajo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
JGwinworth
Profile Joined April 2017
45 Posts
November 07 2017 04:07 GMT
#3057
WHY IN THE HELL IS EG NOT PLAYING IN THE SUMMIT??! THEY NEED AS MUCH PRACTICE AS POSSIBLE AND WE ALL KNOW IF THEY WANTED TO GO THEN THE BTS GUYS WOULD HAVE GIVEN THEM EITHER A DIRECT INVITE OR INVITE TO THE NA QUALS. SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT MAYBE SOME WORDS WERE HAD DURING THE KINGS CUP( NOT SURE IF THEY DID ATTEND IVE ACTUALLY ALREADY FORGOTTEN BUT I FEEL THEY DID COMPETE?) BUT I MEAN NOW AFTER THIS LAST MONTH AND HALF OF QUALS AND TOURNEYS WERE NNOW ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THE PAST FEW YEARS OF, "My-shit-don't-stink-attitude," isn't going to work anymore b/c as a lot of talent has already stated, the event orgs dont need to beg on hands and knees anymore b/c the teams literally HAVE to try to attend if they want any sniff of a TI8 direct invite. I personally think the attitude our boys have had is going to bite them in some of these tourneys and the very 1st one thats so dam clear is Dotapit that just finished. EG won last Dotapit and werent even directly invited as is usual customary. Even if you all dont agree with me on everything dont you think its at least a little clear the chickens are coming home to roost for EG? I mean hands down the only way EG is going to participate in any major and minor is by going through every single qualifier, which has already showed that the NA quals is no longer the death sentence to all other teams not named EG. And one last, IMPORTANT point: I dont care how early it is b/c the scene is only going to get tougher and tougher but when TI8 rolls around, EG will most likely be going in through the quals, which means that a Dota2 International 8 could possibly be held without Evil Geniuses in attendance.
PS- I apologize about the terrible grammar and inappropriate caps usage I'm just a sparatic typist so I have to keep moving to get my points down before I forget or lose them bc I do suffer from hardcore ADD.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
November 07 2017 04:53 GMT
#3058
this last page has been something else.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
JGwinworth
Profile Joined April 2017
45 Posts
November 07 2017 05:01 GMT
#3059
On November 07 2017 13:53 nanaoei wrote:
this last page has been something else.

so u disagree? Ok then what about this point I've been waiting to make. Do you remember back on page 148, someone posted Crits commenst on his style of 4 and why he thinks its better? Its hogwash especially at this point. I have no idea why people think Crit was better 4 than Zai but i cant get over the feeling that I'm all alone on this thinking that Zai is much better than Crit. Even Back when people use Crits OG tenure as his glory days well back then Zai was tearing it up too. And also Crits little post about he's special b/c he's a 4 that leans more towards a 5 whereas Zai and other 4's lean more towards a 3/offlaner. (you can read his comments on Dota 2 Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/6y1ecw/cr1ts_thoughts_on_eg_captaining_and_zai/ )

My point is that Crits style is so far from being relevant in the upcoming style of Dota2 p7.07. We already have a position 5 Fear which is no question a problem but now we have this position 4 Crit who says in his own words that his style leans more towards a 5 then a roaming support who later can grow into a 4th core. From what people are talking about so far with the patch being potentially the "Carry" patch.... wait a minute what if since fears 5 was really so bad, it changes with the new patch to be more of a 4ish 5 and Crits 4 is more of a 5ish 4 and new support meta is born where they become a single unit like the support becomes 2 heros who together focus on warding and roaming for the betterment of the carrys. Oh wow now I myself am really confused but at the same time seeing that maybe I jumped the gun again and they can come up with somethign new and crazy. But still thery need to play in tourneys to get these dam points what is going on?
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-07 10:19:05
November 07 2017 10:18 GMT
#3060
On November 07 2017 14:01 JGwinworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2017 13:53 nanaoei wrote:
this last page has been something else.

so u disagree?


i don't believe he was referring to your post only, but the whole page, wich in my opinion was great, including your marvelous capslocked rant
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