EPTEvil Geniuses Discussion - Page 10
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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ApproximateKnowledge
United States76 Posts
On September 10 2014 09:33 Kupon3ss wrote: The only thing the current EG roster has done is win a premiere LAN while looking moderately convincing This is pretty far removed from what Alliance looked like post G1 or DK post starladder. Both those teams won arguably more stacked LAN without dropping a single game while showcasing an entirely new brand of dota While they look like the strongest team in the world at the moment, best ever is something EG is not even close to be in contention for yet I don't really care about relative performance, all I know is that in absolute terms, this EG team is better than any other Western team ever was. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On September 10 2014 10:28 Kupon3ss wrote: well usually teams do that by playing like the best team in the world for longer than half of one tournament so we'll see How about the best improvement ever? Gimme that atleast. Jeyo, Bdiz, Fear, Demon, Maelk -> Fear, Universe, Zai, PPD, RTZ | ||
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Caladbolg
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
On September 10 2014 09:33 Kupon3ss wrote: The only thing the current EG roster has done is win a premiere LAN while looking moderately convincing This is pretty far removed from what Alliance looked like post G1 or DK post starladder. Both those teams won arguably more stacked LAN without dropping a single game while showcasing an entirely new brand of dota While they look like the strongest team in the world at the moment, best ever is something EG is not even close to be in contention for yet Eg kinda pioneered the carry mid though, when teams then preferred more interactive mids. They probably also made enigma such a hot pick too. | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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Elizar
Germany431 Posts
On September 10 2014 12:26 ApproximateKnowledge wrote: I don't really care about relative performance, all I know is that in absolute terms, this EG team is better than any other Western team ever was. How do you define "absolute terms"? Most won LANs? Most won TIs? While EG is the best western team atm (well deserved btw) it is hardly justified to say best western team ever. | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On September 10 2014 20:56 Elizar wrote: How do you define "absolute terms"? Most won LANs? Most won TIs? While EG is the best western team atm (well deserved btw) it is hardly justified to say best western team ever. By absolute terms he probably means: best overall, not relative to the rest of the scene at that moment, just best team. As you said EG is the best western team atm and considering the fact that this game is so new and every one keeps on improving, "best atm" most likely equals: "best ever". It's not like Alliance got worse after TI3, other teams formed and just got better, including EG. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
On September 10 2014 21:16 Diavlo wrote: By absolute terms he probably means: best overall, not relative to the rest of the scene at that moment, just best team. As you said EG is the best western team atm and considering the fact that this game is so new and every one keeps on improving, "best atm" most likely equals: "best ever". It's not like Alliance got worse after TI3, other teams formed and just got better, including EG. Alliance got worst. Not because teams got better or figured them out (admittingly its still a factor), but mainly cuz they decided to follow trends instead of playing a style that suits them. | ||
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Kupon3ss
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lestye
United States4133 Posts
On September 10 2014 22:28 DucK- wrote: Alliance got worst. Not because teams got better or figured them out (admittingly its still a factor), but mainly cuz they decided to follow trends instead of playing a style that suits them. Their playstyle and heroes were nerfed, as well as the meta that everyone else plays. That's going to have an effect of your performance. You can be the best 4 protect 1 team in the world, but if the dominant meta at the time is something that counters that, you can't just play the outdated playstyle and force it. You have to adapt. ppd's AMA is up | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3633 Posts
Anything interesting asked/said? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
This was the best one: Question: PPD, what do you think the rest of the NA scene needs to do to elevate itself to the same level as EU/China? PPD: make teams Confirmed that being a pubstar is not that impressive and to get better you need to learn to play well with other players. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On September 10 2014 17:03 DucK- wrote: Eg kinda pioneered the carry mid though, when teams then preferred more interactive mids. They probably also made enigma such a hot pick too. When you stop and look at the last year, EG's pioneered a lot of the meta that's happened. Mid-lane farmers, 4th position farmers, non-farming safelaners, offlane Void (technically not the first, but the first to make it look good), and just at WEC having carries and supports that swap farm priority mid game. | ||
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lestye
United States4133 Posts
On September 11 2014 06:33 Plansix wrote: PPD: make teams Confirmed that being a pubstar is not that impressive and to get better you need to learn to play well with other players. I think people can take that to heart. Assuming the Americas has its own Qualifiers for next TI, I think it'd be relatively easy to make a TI "capable" team compared to other regions. I honestly see it as the land of opportunity. Also: b4 I left for dignitas. After receiving the boot because "I was not good enough" lmao | ||
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
On September 10 2014 10:28 Kupon3ss wrote: well usually teams do that by playing like the best team in the world for longer than half of one tournament so we'll see There were certainly some times before Ti where they looked like the best team in the world. They should have done better at TI honestly. | ||
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widdox
166 Posts
On September 11 2014 11:21 Yamulo wrote: There were certainly some times before Ti where they looked like the best team in the world. They should have done better at TI honestly. Mason was not an ideal replacement for Fear. I was happy they got 3rd. | ||
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braincandy
Philippines179 Posts
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
Win it while teams are just getting back into training. EG definitely best ever. | ||
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