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Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
May 29 2014 12:20 GMT
#201
On May 29 2014 21:19 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 21:13 Monv18hao wrote:
On May 29 2014 21:09 OopsOopsBaby wrote:

Haha whoever is handling that twitter account probably won't be handling it much longer....

Meanwhile, xiao8 posts chat convos between the team managers of NB and DK, showing them set up times for scrims, between the beginning of may and the 21st of may.

thanks for the updates! please keep us posted


No prob, give me a sec, new update from Lanm
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44283 Posts
May 29 2014 12:20 GMT
#202
Ugh this is disgusting but maybe next time valve can set up rules for this kind of issues if ever this is true. Racism will hurt esports overtime.
this is a quote
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 29 2014 12:20 GMT
#203
On May 29 2014 21:15 WashMyBack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 21:14 opterown wrote:
On May 29 2014 21:09 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
https://twitter.com/TeamNewbee/status/471974328926732288

I'm suspecting that this person isn't actually part of NewBee organisation in China and does not represent their official views i.e. he/she is not based in China, probably more of a Mali-LGD relationship.


Isn't Mali doing Newbiee twitter too?

if it is i wouldn't trust that at all... mali hardly knows what goes on behind the scenes.
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TL+ Member
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 12:22:37
May 29 2014 12:21 GMT
#204
valve shouldn't do a damn thing about this, and you're insane if you actually think it's a good idea for them to.

I'm still not convinced there's any substance to this so far. Hao has always been a shit talker and that post doesn't mean much other than "don't blame your weakness on others" typical trash talk. xiao is also on newbee and says they just didn't scrim much against anyone overall.

Even if it were true that NB don't scrim DK for any reason, that's still one step removed from accusing an entire chinese scene of racist collusion.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 29 2014 12:22 GMT
#205
On May 29 2014 21:13 mutantmagnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 19:47 fluidin wrote:
This is what Mushi's admin posted:

Some of you who add Mushi at weibo may know the news already, let me tell u the story here..
DK has been boycott by China team (don't want to train with them) for quite some time because of xiao8 (Newbee) asking other team not to train with DK, just want DK to fall, stop them from improving, saying that DK is not truly a China team(because of Mushi & iceiceice), don't want them to be champion. I know many of u will ask for prove, I just can tell u, they got this news from a very reliable person & DK aint a person who will simply flame a person.
Other than training with VG, CIS, they can only train with public, or 2v2 among themselves.
*admin posting

Mushi's Weibo post was also corroborated by Burning. This seems like it could be real



If this pariah status is true this does help clear up for me whether or not there was bad blood over DKs reshuffle after TI3.

It's cool that Super and ROTK are still working with Burning and MMY.


If this situation is true this would hurt my respect for xiao8. He's already been in a bubble after his transition to Newbee.


If you're interested in DK's reshuffle, rotk said a few things about it in an interview a month or two after DK formed. It sounded to me like there was a little bit of bad blood (rotk didn't understand why the team needed to be reformed), but that he and Burning had worked things out.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
son1dow
Profile Joined May 2009
Lithuania322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 12:25:56
May 29 2014 12:25 GMT
#206
Meanwhile ixmike is defending Newbee in this long chain of posts.

Play more Quake.
Spriki
Profile Joined April 2012
216 Posts
May 29 2014 12:25 GMT
#207
the guy handling the newbee twitter account should be fired this instant

the way he answers tweets just puts fuel to the flame
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Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
May 29 2014 12:25 GMT
#208
On May 29 2014 21:15 WashMyBack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 21:07 Kentakky wrote:
On May 29 2014 21:00 WashMyBack wrote:
Its will be shame if this turn out to be true, and even more shame if valve dont react.


Don't think it's on Valve to fix (if true) since China have a organization that's supposed to deal with teams/players in ACE.

Nevertheless I think Newbee should be allowed to not scrim DK if they don't want to, that's totally fine but if it's because of racism it should be looked on and if they tell other teams to not scrim DK that's also really bad.


They can fix it very easily - drop players/teams from TI.



Yes of course they can fix it easily I'm more saying it should be handled by ACE if there's a problem since that's what they're there for. ACE might be China biased though so who knows.
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2073 Posts
May 29 2014 12:25 GMT
#209
On May 29 2014 21:20 goody153 wrote:
Ugh this is disgusting but maybe next time valve can set up rules for this kind of issues if ever this is true. Racism will hurt esports overtime.

Wtf? Valve can not and should not set up any rules, this is infringement of human rights.... =.= Teams have choice who to scrim with, although it is unfair and evil....
Oppa feeding style
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
May 29 2014 12:26 GMT
#210
So 2/5 of DK are not Chinese so the other Chinese teams are throwing a fit about it? Fucking logic.

Sounds like theyre just salty for other reasons, imo. What do I know, though.
Skol
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
May 29 2014 12:27 GMT
#211
On May 29 2014 21:26 Emnjay808 wrote:
So 2/5 of DK are not Chinese so the other Chinese teams are throwing a fit about it? Fucking logic.

Sounds like theyre just salty for other reasons, imo. What do I know, though.


Exactly DK crushes every fucking tournament of course the other teams are going to try and take them down. Even if it is racist who gives a fuck. People calling for reprimands are unfathomable.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 29 2014 12:28 GMT
#212
On May 29 2014 21:25 son1dow wrote:
Meanwhile ixmike is defending Newbee in this long chain of posts.

https://twitter.com/Liquidixmike88/status/471989891400626176


mike is right

mike isn't saying that chinese players should shun foreigners, he's saying there's legit competitive reasons to not scim against DK.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 29 2014 12:29 GMT
#213
i'm glad the sentiment on TL is more reasonable than on reddit, although the reddit posts have been a bit less pitchforky as the mob calms down a bit.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
son1dow
Profile Joined May 2009
Lithuania322 Posts
May 29 2014 12:29 GMT
#214
On May 29 2014 21:25 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 21:20 goody153 wrote:
Ugh this is disgusting but maybe next time valve can set up rules for this kind of issues if ever this is true. Racism will hurt esports overtime.

Wtf? Valve can not and should not set up any rules, this is infringement of human rights.... =.= Teams have choice who to scrim with, although it is unfair and evil....


From a commercial standpoint, companies do much more crazy ( 'nazi' ) things to to disassociate lesser evils from their name. And this would have to do upholding the spirit of competition, a much more honorable goal.

If chinese teams do this all the time, I don't see valve interfering, or standing their ground later on when teams are all hush about it but still do it secretly. However, if they see clear signs of racism, they could definitely penalize the specific speakers.
Play more Quake.
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 12:37:22
May 29 2014 12:32 GMT
#215
Newest update from Lanm
Tweet reads: "The cause for all this is because we heard that director 8 told other teams not to scrim with DK (Ever since SL9, IG clearly was no longer practicing with us and afterwards the situation with NB is like in image 2. [T/N: Image 2 is Lanm/DK messaging NB almost everyday in the past week asking if they were practicing, but not getting a response] Because of all this there were mushi and burning's posts. If it is how xiao8 says it is like in image 5, then we are willing to believe this is all a misunderstanding"

Image 1-4: Starts may 21st, DK/Lanm asking if they are practicing, no response. When asked when they can practice with newbee, newbee responded with "after elimination from WPC"

Image 5: Chat with xiao8 after mushi's post, who asked why mushi said that
Lanm (im guessing it's him, cause its his post...): Someone told us you were telling other teams to not practice with us.
Xiao8: Be broader (?), who said it? evidence? I'll say this, if I did this then my whole family dead (kinda like swearing on your family...)

EDIT: xiao8 replies:
21st and 22nd I was at the hospital looking after my wife, the whole team didn't practice. Even though it's a misunderstanding, shouldn't you guys clearly state where you got the rumor (of the boycott)?

Lanm apologizes.

Drama ends guys, I have 2.5 hrs to sleep, goodnight~
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
May 29 2014 12:33 GMT
#216
https://www.facebook.com/mushichai/posts/683486678385969

Regarding the post earlier, the team admin would like to apologise to all the people out there. That post was post without the knowledge of Mushi himself. Our admin posted because before this incident happen, we heard a lot of rumours that start to boycott Team DK. As a fren and also a fan We are pissed off regarding this matter. We hereby say that we are sorry for any inconvenience cause to anyone. Mushi himself will post regarding this matter soon.
Sorry and thank you once again.
*Admin posting on behalf on Mushi.
P/S: Mushi is playing basketball right now
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
May 29 2014 12:33 GMT
#217
At least Burning's old team mates on VG still scrim with him and DK.
Road to 6sange
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 12:34:54
May 29 2014 12:34 GMT
#218
You can defend Newbee all you want, and say its just competitive taunts and all that. But that twitter post from NewBee is absolute disgrace. The guy handling that twitter acount is downright accepting the racism from Banana and Hao. A proper organization knows how embracing such a message is very bad for you.

"Disaproval of foreginers" Just sounds soooo wrong.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 12:36:52
May 29 2014 12:34 GMT
#219
Should Mushi have some rest instead of playing basketball?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44283 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 12:36:07
May 29 2014 12:35 GMT
#220
nvrmnd .. kirsed already posted
this is a quote
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