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Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
May 29 2014 11:29 GMT
#161
It will be a lie if xiao8 isn't influenced by both Banana and Hao.

Hopefully that news is just rumours
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1451 Posts
May 29 2014 11:29 GMT
#162
I am not sure about this. DK has a history of jumping to conclusion. Remember the incident that DK withdrew from a tournament that was said not paying its prizepool?
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
May 29 2014 11:31 GMT
#163
I don't know about xiao8, but banana/Hao/Mu certainly have.
rip
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 29 2014 11:31 GMT
#164
doesn't seem like a big deal to me?
No rules are being broken here since when do people have to scrim with someone they don't want to scrim with.
And to prove it's because of racism not better contacts/strategy is pretty much impossible
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
May 29 2014 11:31 GMT
#165
There have been a lot of replies on weibo, but I think the most interesting one is hao's which says "Big brothers don't blame your losses on us little brothers for not practicing with you guys"

Am I reading this wrong or did he basically just admit they didn't scrim together?
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
May 29 2014 11:33 GMT
#166
On May 29 2014 20:31 Monv18hao wrote:
There have been a lot of replies on weibo, but I think the most interesting one is hao's which says "Big brothers don't blame your losses on us little brothers for not practicing with you guys"

Am I reading this wrong or did he basically just admit they didn't scrim together?


Pretty much. Captilast just tweeted this.


I had totally forgotten about that. But yeah if you remember the only teams Orange and Zenith scrimmed last year before ti were basically Orange and Zenith.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
May 29 2014 11:34 GMT
#167
Wonder if Valve will do anything if xiao8 or Newbee confirmed boycotting DK for Mushi/ice3 reasons. Will wait for more evidence but my heart says xiao8 = scum. Hope I'm wrong.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
son1dow
Profile Joined May 2009
Lithuania322 Posts
May 29 2014 11:35 GMT
#168
On May 29 2014 20:31 LemOn wrote:
doesn't seem like a big deal to me?
No rules are being broken here since when do people have to scrim with someone they don't want to scrim with.
And to prove it's because of racism not better contacts/strategy is pretty much impossible


It may be implausible to prove beyond doubt, but if it becomes obvious enough fans can and probably should not cheer for that team.
Play more Quake.
GaribaldiSC2
Profile Joined March 2013
Spain709 Posts
May 29 2014 11:36 GMT
#169
WIll be Xiao8 banned for this? I really hope so
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 29 2014 11:38 GMT
#170
On May 29 2014 20:33 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 20:31 Monv18hao wrote:
There have been a lot of replies on weibo, but I think the most interesting one is hao's which says "Big brothers don't blame your losses on us little brothers for not practicing with you guys"

Am I reading this wrong or did he basically just admit they didn't scrim together?


Pretty much. Captilast just tweeted this.+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/DotACapitalist/status/471976286349692928


I had totally forgotten about that. But yeah if you remember the only teams Orange and Zenith scrimmed last year before ti were basically Orange and Zenith.

well to be fair china would rather play on their own servers and orange/zenith have pretty crappy pings to china, so yeah it's not like china was obliged to play with sea teams
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
May 29 2014 11:39 GMT
#171
On May 29 2014 20:31 LemOn wrote:
doesn't seem like a big deal to me?
No rules are being broken here since when do people have to scrim with someone they don't want to scrim with.
And to prove it's because of racism not better contacts/strategy is pretty much impossible

No rules are broken but it's underhanded, scummy, and anti-competitive even if it's just "DK is better than us so we're going to attack them this way instead" and not racism. It damages the scene long term for a short term personal gain.

Your suggestion that it has to do with contacts makes no sense, the lineups of these teams has been more or less the same for months, yet the lack of scrims started post-SL9. How do Burning and MMY of all players have no contacts in the Chinese scene?
rip
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
May 29 2014 11:39 GMT
#172
On May 29 2014 19:50 Monv18hao wrote:
Lots of drama, lots of rumors....

Shortly after SL9, there was a chinese thread about how (I think it was faith) said on a broadcast that IG and LGD were no longer scriming with DK. Most thought it was because DK was too good, some thought it was because DK fell off. No one really thought much of it though.

Yesterday, there was a weibo post that was er..."retweeted"....by burning's gf, which claimed that only VG were scriming against DK, and everyone else wasn't because DK was winning everything. Later, the post was deleted~

After their match against Titan, mushi posted on weibo saying
Show nested quote +
Nice strategy by small eight ! You are the best e-sport player I ever seen
which was later "retweeted" by burning. Both are known to rarely post on weibo, so this brings up more drama.

Soon after, xiao8 posts on weibo saying that he recalls scriming with them a lot, less with lgd; Before MDL they (NB) only scrimmed twice; He never said or told any other teams to not practice with DK.

Immediately after, Yao and Hao all post in defense of xiao8.

xiao8 was also accused of doing the same to IG last year, but zhou posted that he doesn't remember such thing when he was on IG.

Then mushi's admin posts on facebook about how it's because he and iceiceice aren't from China.

TLDR: There's accusations of scrim boycotting against DK, xiao8 denies it, nothing is clear atm.

Thats a pretty smart strategy from xiao8 actually.... although its pretty evil.... lol
Oppa feeding style
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
May 29 2014 11:40 GMT
#173
On May 29 2014 20:38 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 20:33 kirsed wrote:
On May 29 2014 20:31 Monv18hao wrote:
There have been a lot of replies on weibo, but I think the most interesting one is hao's which says "Big brothers don't blame your losses on us little brothers for not practicing with you guys"

Am I reading this wrong or did he basically just admit they didn't scrim together?


Pretty much. Captilast just tweeted this.+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/DotACapitalist/status/471976286349692928


I had totally forgotten about that. But yeah if you remember the only teams Orange and Zenith scrimmed last year before ti were basically Orange and Zenith.

well to be fair china would rather play on their own servers and orange/zenith have pretty crappy pings to china, so yeah it's not like china was obliged to play with sea teams


Ya I know that and Zenith was never exactly t1 but Orange was always competitive with t1 China teams.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
May 29 2014 11:42 GMT
#174
I think the issue here is not newbee boycotting DK, but more like DID newbee ask other Chinese team to boycott DK?

If they did, that's poor poor sportsmanship. It's fine if u skip scrimming with DK but don't involve others for your personal issue.

weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
May 29 2014 11:43 GMT
#175
But Chuan is Malaysian too.... Why will iG boycott DK then? Dont really make sense.... lol
Oppa feeding style
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
May 29 2014 11:46 GMT
#176
If iG boycotts DK it will not only be because of the SEA issue. AFAIK there are internal problems between Mushi and Chuan.
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
May 29 2014 11:50 GMT
#177
On May 29 2014 19:50 Monv18hao wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Lots of drama, lots of rumors....

Shortly after SL9, there was a chinese thread about how (I think it was faith) said on a broadcast that IG and LGD were no longer scriming with DK. Most thought it was because DK was too good, some thought it was because DK fell off. No one really thought much of it though.

Yesterday, there was a weibo post that was er..."retweeted"....by burning's gf, which claimed that only VG were scriming against DK, and everyone else wasn't because DK was winning everything. Later, the post was deleted~

After their match against Titan, mushi posted on weibo saying
Nice strategy by small eight ! You are the best e-sport player I ever seen
which was later "retweeted" by burning. Both are known to rarely post on weibo, so this brings up more drama.

Soon after, xiao8 posts on weibo saying that he recalls scriming with them a lot, less with lgd; Before MDL they (NB) only scrimmed twice; He never said or told any other teams to not practice with DK.

Immediately after, Yao and Hao all post in defense of xiao8.

xiao8 was also accused of doing the same to IG last year, but zhou posted that he doesn't remember such thing when he was on IG.

Then mushi's admin posts on facebook about how it's because he and iceiceice aren't from China.

TLDR: There's accusations of scrim boycotting against DK, xiao8 denies it, nothing is clear atm.


Sorry, I have absolutely no sense of time. The first event actually happened two weeks ago.
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
maos
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden50 Posts
May 29 2014 11:52 GMT
#178
On May 29 2014 20:40 kirsed wrote:
Ya I know that and Zenith was never exactly t1 but Orange was always competitive with t1 China teams.


Sorry for the off topic, but Zenith was most definitely a tier 1 team. TI2 was a disappointment despite a 5/6th spot. Zenith at TI3 was a weaker team than the two earlier years, but was still 9th-12th in the world. hyhy and icex3 fanboy speaking, but I think it's lack of respect for a team that good to claim they weren't tier 1.

Going back to the topic I've always respected xiao8 a lot, and I guess you could consider this yet another example of him doing anything for his team to become the best, but what I don't understand is how he's managed to convince other teams to agree to this. What does any other team have to benefit from a boycot? Practicing a lot against DK would surely improve them more than NOT doing it.
When he was just 14 years old, Daryl Koh Pei Xiang knew that he was different from the other kids around him. He felt alone in a sea of noobs
Unnamezz
Profile Joined May 2010
Malaysia191 Posts
May 29 2014 11:53 GMT
#179
Yep, the irony is iG got Chuan which is from Malaysia and yet they are 'tying' to boycott DK. What is this heresy. Anyway go Dk go!!!!
Lazy and Sleepy
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
May 29 2014 11:58 GMT
#180
Isn't Chuan Malaysian Chinese? He might just be chinese enough for iG :p.
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