EPTHopefully that news is just rumours
Team DK Discussion - Page 9
| Forum Index > Dota 2 Player & Team Discussion |
|
Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
Hopefully that news is just rumours | ||
|
BoesFX
1465 Posts
| ||
|
TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
| ||
|
LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
No rules are being broken here since when do people have to scrim with someone they don't want to scrim with. And to prove it's because of racism not better contacts/strategy is pretty much impossible | ||
|
Monv18hao
Canada627 Posts
Am I reading this wrong or did he basically just admit they didn't scrim together? | ||
|
Kirsed
9380 Posts
On May 29 2014 20:31 Monv18hao wrote: There have been a lot of replies on weibo, but I think the most interesting one is hao's which says "Big brothers don't blame your losses on us little brothers for not practicing with you guys" Am I reading this wrong or did he basically just admit they didn't scrim together? Pretty much. Captilast just tweeted this. I had totally forgotten about that. But yeah if you remember the only teams Orange and Zenith scrimmed last year before ti were basically Orange and Zenith. | ||
|
Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
| ||
|
son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
On May 29 2014 20:31 LemOn wrote: doesn't seem like a big deal to me? No rules are being broken here since when do people have to scrim with someone they don't want to scrim with. And to prove it's because of racism not better contacts/strategy is pretty much impossible It may be implausible to prove beyond doubt, but if it becomes obvious enough fans can and probably should not cheer for that team. | ||
|
GaribaldiSC2
Spain709 Posts
| ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 29 2014 20:33 kirsed wrote: Pretty much. Captilast just tweeted this.+ Show Spoiler + I had totally forgotten about that. But yeah if you remember the only teams Orange and Zenith scrimmed last year before ti were basically Orange and Zenith. well to be fair china would rather play on their own servers and orange/zenith have pretty crappy pings to china, so yeah it's not like china was obliged to play with sea teams | ||
|
TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On May 29 2014 20:31 LemOn wrote: doesn't seem like a big deal to me? No rules are being broken here since when do people have to scrim with someone they don't want to scrim with. And to prove it's because of racism not better contacts/strategy is pretty much impossible No rules are broken but it's underhanded, scummy, and anti-competitive even if it's just "DK is better than us so we're going to attack them this way instead" and not racism. It damages the scene long term for a short term personal gain. Your suggestion that it has to do with contacts makes no sense, the lineups of these teams has been more or less the same for months, yet the lack of scrims started post-SL9. How do Burning and MMY of all players have no contacts in the Chinese scene? | ||
|
weiliem
2073 Posts
On May 29 2014 19:50 Monv18hao wrote: Lots of drama, lots of rumors.... Shortly after SL9, there was a chinese thread about how (I think it was faith) said on a broadcast that IG and LGD were no longer scriming with DK. Most thought it was because DK was too good, some thought it was because DK fell off. No one really thought much of it though. Yesterday, there was a weibo post that was er..."retweeted"....by burning's gf, which claimed that only VG were scriming against DK, and everyone else wasn't because DK was winning everything. Later, the post was deleted~ After their match against Titan, mushi posted on weibo saying which was later "retweeted" by burning. Both are known to rarely post on weibo, so this brings up more drama. Soon after, xiao8 posts on weibo saying that he recalls scriming with them a lot, less with lgd; Before MDL they (NB) only scrimmed twice; He never said or told any other teams to not practice with DK. Immediately after, Yao and Hao all post in defense of xiao8. xiao8 was also accused of doing the same to IG last year, but zhou posted that he doesn't remember such thing when he was on IG. Then mushi's admin posts on facebook about how it's because he and iceiceice aren't from China. TLDR: There's accusations of scrim boycotting against DK, xiao8 denies it, nothing is clear atm. Thats a pretty smart strategy from xiao8 actually.... although its pretty evil.... lol | ||
|
Kirsed
9380 Posts
On May 29 2014 20:38 opterown wrote: well to be fair china would rather play on their own servers and orange/zenith have pretty crappy pings to china, so yeah it's not like china was obliged to play with sea teams Ya I know that and Zenith was never exactly t1 but Orange was always competitive with t1 China teams. | ||
|
Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
If they did, that's poor poor sportsmanship. It's fine if u skip scrimming with DK but don't involve others for your personal issue. | ||
|
weiliem
2073 Posts
| ||
|
fluidin
Singapore1084 Posts
| ||
|
Monv18hao
Canada627 Posts
On May 29 2014 19:50 Monv18hao wrote: + Show Spoiler + Lots of drama, lots of rumors.... Shortly after SL9, there was a chinese thread about how (I think it was faith) said on a broadcast that IG and LGD were no longer scriming with DK. Most thought it was because DK was too good, some thought it was because DK fell off. No one really thought much of it though. Yesterday, there was a weibo post that was er..."retweeted"....by burning's gf, which claimed that only VG were scriming against DK, and everyone else wasn't because DK was winning everything. Later, the post was deleted~ After their match against Titan, mushi posted on weibo saying Nice strategy by small eight ! You are the best e-sport player I ever seen which was later "retweeted" by burning. Both are known to rarely post on weibo, so this brings up more drama.Soon after, xiao8 posts on weibo saying that he recalls scriming with them a lot, less with lgd; Before MDL they (NB) only scrimmed twice; He never said or told any other teams to not practice with DK. Immediately after, Yao and Hao all post in defense of xiao8. xiao8 was also accused of doing the same to IG last year, but zhou posted that he doesn't remember such thing when he was on IG. Then mushi's admin posts on facebook about how it's because he and iceiceice aren't from China. TLDR: There's accusations of scrim boycotting against DK, xiao8 denies it, nothing is clear atm. Sorry, I have absolutely no sense of time. The first event actually happened two weeks ago. | ||
|
maos
Sweden50 Posts
On May 29 2014 20:40 kirsed wrote: Ya I know that and Zenith was never exactly t1 but Orange was always competitive with t1 China teams. Sorry for the off topic, but Zenith was most definitely a tier 1 team. TI2 was a disappointment despite a 5/6th spot. Zenith at TI3 was a weaker team than the two earlier years, but was still 9th-12th in the world. hyhy and icex3 fanboy speaking, but I think it's lack of respect for a team that good to claim they weren't tier 1. Going back to the topic I've always respected xiao8 a lot, and I guess you could consider this yet another example of him doing anything for his team to become the best, but what I don't understand is how he's managed to convince other teams to agree to this. What does any other team have to benefit from a boycot? Practicing a lot against DK would surely improve them more than NOT doing it. | ||
|
Unnamezz
Malaysia191 Posts
| ||
|
duckii
Germany1017 Posts
| ||
| ||
