Yes, the Racism, everyone knows, Racism is bad, so get the pitchforks, but that many casters & players are living a Sexism live on Stream is accepted.
Many things should be discussed in general, not only Racism!
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Dil3mma
China33 Posts
Yes, the Racism, everyone knows, Racism is bad, so get the pitchforks, but that many casters & players are living a Sexism live on Stream is accepted. Many things should be discussed in general, not only Racism! | ||
Geoshin
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
Is it normal for Chinese to excuse themselves so shamelessly after something blows up like this on social networks? Edit: My post is out of date. Don't read it. Conclusions: We're leaving having learned a bit about the shady practice of chinese dota, and also that newbee's twitter poster should be out a job. | ||
Kirsed
9380 Posts
https://www.facebook.com/mushichai/posts/683486678385969 Regarding the post earlier, the team admin would like to apologise to all the people out there. That post was post without the knowledge of Mushi himself. Our admin posted because before this incident happen, we heard a lot of rumours that start to boycott Team DK. As a fren and also a fan We are pissed off regarding this matter. We hereby say that we are sorry for any inconvenience cause to anyone. Mushi himself will post regarding this matter soon. Sorry and thank you once again. *Admin posting on behalf on Mushi. P/S: Mushi is playing basketball right now | ||
Monv18hao
Canada627 Posts
On May 29 2014 21:32 Monv18hao wrote: Newest update from Lanm Tweet reads: "The cause for all this is because we heard that director 8 told other teams not to scrim with DK (Ever since SL9, IG clearly was no longer practicing with us and afterwards the situation with NB is like in image 2. [T/N: Image 2 is Lanm/DK messaging NB almost everyday in the past week asking if they were practicing, but not getting a response] Because of all this there were mushi and burning's posts. If it is how xiao8 says it is like in image 5, then we are willing to believe this is all a misunderstanding" Image 1-4: Starts may 21st, DK/Lanm asking if they are practicing, no response. When asked when they can practice with newbee, newbee responded with "after elimination from WPC" Image 5: Chat with xiao8 after mushi's post, who asked why mushi said that Lanm (im guessing it's him, cause its his post...): Someone told us you were telling other teams to not practice with us. Xiao8: Be broader (?), who said it? evidence? I'll say this, if I did this then my whole family dead (kinda like swearing on your family...) EDIT: xiao8 replies: 21st and 22nd I was at the hospital looking after my wife, the whole team didn't practice. Even though it's a misunderstanding, shouldn't you guys clearly state where you got the rumor (of the boycott)? Lanm apologizes. Drama ends guys, I have 2.5 hrs to sleep, goodnight~ Oops, should've just made a new post instead of editing so more people will see this. oh well. | ||
lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On May 29 2014 21:34 Oddball28 wrote: You can defend Newbee all you want, and say its just competitive taunts and all that. But that twitter post from NewBee is absolute disgrace. The guy handling that twitter acount is downright accepting the racism from Banana and Hao. A proper organization knows how embracing such a message is very bad for you. "Disaproval of foreginers" Just sounds soooo wrong. Have you seen some of the tweets from western teams? like seriously. Anyone surprised by hao/banana being xenophobic probably just isn't reading tweets from all of the pros from around the world. The entire dota2 scene and gaming in general is a racist, homophobic, sexist cesspool. | ||
Spriki
216 Posts
But really, glad that this whole fiasco is finished. We can go back to sunshine and rainbow land where both fans of DK and newbee can cheer for the other team | ||
son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
On May 29 2014 21:40 lolnoty wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 21:34 Oddball28 wrote: You can defend Newbee all you want, and say its just competitive taunts and all that. But that twitter post from NewBee is absolute disgrace. The guy handling that twitter acount is downright accepting the racism from Banana and Hao. A proper organization knows how embracing such a message is very bad for you. "Disaproval of foreginers" Just sounds soooo wrong. Have you seen some of the tweets from western teams? like seriously. Anyone surprised by hao/banana being xenophobic probably just isn't reading tweets from all of the pros from around the world. The entire dota2 scene and gaming in general is a racist, homophobic, sexist cesspool. Most of the time it's joking around / speaking of general quality of players on ladder. This is actual 'We don't like people of a nationality different to ours.' | ||
goody153
44121 Posts
http://t.qq.com/p/t/400762093548983 so no more hate guys | ||
Oddball28
Denmark2121 Posts
On May 29 2014 21:40 lolnoty wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 21:34 Oddball28 wrote: You can defend Newbee all you want, and say its just competitive taunts and all that. But that twitter post from NewBee is absolute disgrace. The guy handling that twitter acount is downright accepting the racism from Banana and Hao. A proper organization knows how embracing such a message is very bad for you. "Disaproval of foreginers" Just sounds soooo wrong. Have you seen some of the tweets from western teams? like seriously. Anyone surprised by hao/banana being xenophobic probably just isn't reading tweets from all of the pros from around the world. The entire dota2 scene and gaming in general is a racist, homophobic, sexist cesspool. List me some of the European pros blatantly directing racism towards each other. I know that in public games the racism towards russians/peruvians exists. But I haven't seen pros gone at each other like that. They should be rolemodels, except I know that they aren't these days. Just take a look at sing etc. | ||
weiliem
2071 Posts
On May 29 2014 21:32 Monv18hao wrote: Newest update from Lanm Tweet reads: "The cause for all this is because we heard that director 8 told other teams not to scrim with DK (Ever since SL9, IG clearly was no longer practicing with us and afterwards the situation with NB is like in image 2. [T/N: Image 2 is Lanm/DK messaging NB almost everyday in the past week asking if they were practicing, but not getting a response] Because of all this there were mushi and burning's posts. If it is how xiao8 says it is like in image 5, then we are willing to believe this is all a misunderstanding" Image 1-4: Starts may 21st, DK/Lanm asking if they are practicing, no response. When asked when they can practice with newbee, newbee responded with "after elimination from WPC" Image 5: Chat with xiao8 after mushi's post, who asked why mushi said that Lanm (im guessing it's him, cause its his post...): Someone told us you were telling other teams to not practice with us. Xiao8: Be broader (?), who said it? evidence? I'll say this, if I did this then my whole family dead (kinda like swearing on your family...) EDIT: xiao8 replies: 21st and 22nd I was at the hospital looking after my wife, the whole team didn't practice. Even though it's a misunderstanding, shouldn't you guys clearly state where you got the rumor (of the boycott)? Lanm apologizes. Drama ends guys, I have 2.5 hrs to sleep, goodnight~ Everybody accusing each other without evidence.... Then the community without proper knowledge of the case just starts jumping to conclusions, and starts the hatings.... Now we see how fast rumours can spread.... | ||
ncsix
1370 Posts
On May 29 2014 21:27 kirsed wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 21:26 Emnjay808 wrote: So 2/5 of DK are not Chinese so the other Chinese teams are throwing a fit about it? Fucking logic. Sounds like theyre just salty for other reasons, imo. What do I know, though. Exactly DK crushes every fucking tournament of course the other teams are going to try and take them down. Even if it is racist who gives a fuck. People calling for reprimands are unfathomable. >>Even if it is racist who gives a fuck Come on... are you for real? I don't want to watch a sport that involves political / strategical maneuvering beyond the game. The whole point about keeping the playing field level is what makes watching teams play against each other enjoyable. If the boycott was true with race being the point of contention, thats just racism and any competition organizer throwing millions of dollars around should respect the sentiment of its international supporters. If the boycott was true but racism was not a factor in it (highly unlikely given Hao, Mu and Banana's history), its still scummy and they should be booed at TI. If the boycott was not true and Mushi's allegations were false, why would he or his team mates say such thing? They are such veterans of the scene that losing a few games purely because Newbee is on form won't bother them, so I suspect theres something more going on here. Even if none of these were true, Valve should address the issue anyway to remind all players participating in TI to be a good sport without bigotry. | ||
fluidin
Singapore1084 Posts
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On May 29 2014 21:44 Oddball28 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 21:40 lolnoty wrote: On May 29 2014 21:34 Oddball28 wrote: You can defend Newbee all you want, and say its just competitive taunts and all that. But that twitter post from NewBee is absolute disgrace. The guy handling that twitter acount is downright accepting the racism from Banana and Hao. A proper organization knows how embracing such a message is very bad for you. "Disaproval of foreginers" Just sounds soooo wrong. Have you seen some of the tweets from western teams? like seriously. Anyone surprised by hao/banana being xenophobic probably just isn't reading tweets from all of the pros from around the world. The entire dota2 scene and gaming in general is a racist, homophobic, sexist cesspool. List me some of the European pros blatantly directing racism towards each other. I know that in public games the racism towards russians/peruvians exists. But I haven't seen pros gone at each other like that. They should be rolemodels, except I know that they aren't these days. Just take a look at sing etc. I'm not going to dig through every single tweet of every player for you because I don't think I have much to prove. Believe me or not, it's the entire gaming scene that has disgusting attitudes. It's not smart, productive, or practical for Valve to go on some global police censorship spree. Mass censorship doesn't solve thought crimes. | ||
lilopuppy
Philippines542 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
use your esports bones to get me rares please. who's winning ti4? | ||
Oddball28
Denmark2121 Posts
On May 29 2014 22:04 lolnoty wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 21:44 Oddball28 wrote: On May 29 2014 21:40 lolnoty wrote: On May 29 2014 21:34 Oddball28 wrote: You can defend Newbee all you want, and say its just competitive taunts and all that. But that twitter post from NewBee is absolute disgrace. The guy handling that twitter acount is downright accepting the racism from Banana and Hao. A proper organization knows how embracing such a message is very bad for you. "Disaproval of foreginers" Just sounds soooo wrong. Have you seen some of the tweets from western teams? like seriously. Anyone surprised by hao/banana being xenophobic probably just isn't reading tweets from all of the pros from around the world. The entire dota2 scene and gaming in general is a racist, homophobic, sexist cesspool. List me some of the European pros blatantly directing racism towards each other. I know that in public games the racism towards russians/peruvians exists. But I haven't seen pros gone at each other like that. They should be rolemodels, except I know that they aren't these days. Just take a look at sing etc. I'm not going to dig through every single tweet of every player for you because I don't think I have much to prove. Believe me or not, it's the entire gaming scene that has disgusting attitudes. It's not smart, productive, or practical for Valve to go on some global police censorship spree. Mass censorship doesn't solve thought crimes. Theres a diffrence in between players having opinions and an entire organization to blatantly accept racism from their players. I haven't seen pros with this kinda attitude. | ||
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Australia54784 Posts
On May 29 2014 22:13 Oddball28 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 22:04 lolnoty wrote: On May 29 2014 21:44 Oddball28 wrote: On May 29 2014 21:40 lolnoty wrote: On May 29 2014 21:34 Oddball28 wrote: You can defend Newbee all you want, and say its just competitive taunts and all that. But that twitter post from NewBee is absolute disgrace. The guy handling that twitter acount is downright accepting the racism from Banana and Hao. A proper organization knows how embracing such a message is very bad for you. "Disaproval of foreginers" Just sounds soooo wrong. Have you seen some of the tweets from western teams? like seriously. Anyone surprised by hao/banana being xenophobic probably just isn't reading tweets from all of the pros from around the world. The entire dota2 scene and gaming in general is a racist, homophobic, sexist cesspool. List me some of the European pros blatantly directing racism towards each other. I know that in public games the racism towards russians/peruvians exists. But I haven't seen pros gone at each other like that. They should be rolemodels, except I know that they aren't these days. Just take a look at sing etc. I'm not going to dig through every single tweet of every player for you because I don't think I have much to prove. Believe me or not, it's the entire gaming scene that has disgusting attitudes. It's not smart, productive, or practical for Valve to go on some global police censorship spree. Mass censorship doesn't solve thought crimes. Theres a diffrence in between players having opinions and an entire organization to blatantly accept racism from their players. I haven't seen pros with this kinda attitude. that twitter is atrocious, i imagine that guy will be disciplined extremely quickly if newbee management hears of it. don't take their tweets as official newbee positions. | ||
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