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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 08 2018 19:25 GMT
#196941
On November 09 2018 03:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2018 03:27 intotheheart wrote:
On November 09 2018 03:17 Plansix wrote:
On November 09 2018 03:12 Nevuk wrote:
Ssaspartan chose to be a moron today

Like how big of a moron? Are we talking EdgeLord moron or “caught trying to sleep with a minor” moron?

Well he made a racist comment towards the Chinese teams/players on Twitter so it's the first kind.

I look forward to the army of people coming out to claim it wasn't a big deal.

Well, he also used the n word so a bit more extreme than the others
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 08 2018 19:35 GMT
#196942
A true child of Valve esports.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
November 08 2018 20:24 GMT
#196943
A few days ago I said this chingchong-drama is the most american thing I've seen in weeks. Now I am not so sure anymore. On one hand it's a really fucking stupid move by Ssaspartan to pull this shit after all the drama happened. On the other hand he's a greek guy who (probably) never heard these words in a context that could be interpreted as racist up until last week.
IMO this whole thing is blown way out of proportion and there is no good way even touching that discussion with a 10ft pole.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 08 2018 20:39 GMT
#196944
In general when people from another country tell me something is racist or unacceptable, I listen to them because I’m ignorant of the cultural practices. Mostly for fear of getting the shit kicked out of me for whatever reason, because that is how racism was handled in the past. Call an Italian kid a Wop as a joke, he would just get into a fist fight with you to correct your error.

But now if you don’t know any better because you are from another country, not only do not have to apologize for saying racist shit, you can blame the people that pointed out the racist shit for blowing it out of proportion.

The kid is an idiot and will remain an idiot. Being Greek just makes him an idiot who doesn’t speak English as a first language.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 08 2018 20:45 GMT
#196945
words mean whatever people want them to mean. All languages are human constructs meant to convey meanings.

Languages aren't perfect. Our interpretation of meanings that others are attempting to communicate is more based on our own understanding of language than on the communicating party's intended meaning.

Why can we call Australians "Aussies" but can't call Japanese people "Japs"? Because of historical use of the term i'd assume, but things like that are not really obvious to people who didn't grow up in american culture where people remember war with "the japs".

Because how derogatory a nickname is basically is 100% culture dependant, it's incredibly stupid to universally allocate positive or negative connotations to a term that is used almost entirely to describe a place of origin. Yet we do, and it leads to shit like this. Unfortunately it's pretty hard to change the culture surrounding words because as I said, words mean whatever people want them to.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 08 2018 20:53 GMT
#196946
On November 09 2018 05:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
words mean whatever people want them to mean. All languages are human constructs meant to convey meanings.

Languages aren't perfect. Our interpretation of meanings that others are attempting to communicate is more based on our own understanding of language than on the communicating party's intended meaning.

Why can we call Australians "Aussies" but can't call Japanese people "Japs"? Because of historical use of the term i'd assume, but things like that are not really obvious to people who didn't grow up in american culture where people remember war with "the japs".

Because how derogatory a nickname is basically is 100% culture dependant, it's incredibly stupid to universally allocate positive or negative connotations to a term that is used almost entirely to describe a place of origin. Yet we do, and it leads to shit like this. Unfortunately it's pretty hard to change the culture surrounding words because as I said, words mean whatever people want them to.

Not really sure I ever claimed otherwise, but yes I agree.

Ok, so lets say you accidentally say something culturally offensive out of ignorance and someone tells you about it. Do you respond: "Its not big deal, your culture shouldn't give those words power anyways." Because that what the nugget is saying on twitter.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-08 21:03:30
November 08 2018 21:03 GMT
#196947
i wasn't writing in direct response to you it just took a while to make sure my words were more or less what i wanted them to be
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 08 2018 21:07 GMT
#196948
On November 09 2018 06:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
i wasn't writing in direct response to you it just took a while to make sure my words were more or less what i wanted them to be

All right, just makings sure. You are right and people are allowed to make mistakes. How people respond to those mistakes is the part that really matters. And the brain trust on twitter has responded poorly.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 08 2018 23:00 GMT
#196949
can events stop happening in shit timezones ty
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 08 2018 23:30 GMT
#196950
On November 09 2018 08:00 Sn0_Man wrote:
can events stop happening in shit timezones ty

TI next year QQ
© Current year.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2808 Posts
November 09 2018 00:03 GMT
#196951
On November 09 2018 03:12 Nevuk wrote:
Ssaspartan chose to be a moron today


I read "mormon" and was trying to figure out what that meant.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
November 09 2018 04:23 GMT
#196952
On November 07 2018 22:54 Atreides wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 21:26 Pontual wrote:
So do you hunt caribou and deers? What do you do with all the meat? You cut it and store it by yourself or take the animal to the butcher?

How hard/easy is it to hunt these animals? Also, how does the meat taste, is it lean, i suppose it tastes game-y but would imagine caribou to have some fat in it


I dunno, I've hunted my whole life. Its not too hard for me to shoot a caribou and two deer every year which is enough red meat for a single guy to eat for a year. (~200 lbs finished weight I guess? I do maybe another 100lbs finished weight of fish/shrimp) I do cut it and package and freeze myself. I have friends who take to shops but its kind of expensive to be honest. My best friend had a 1700$ bill for taking his moose meat to a local butcher. lol. I could hunt moose also and my limit on deer is actually 5, but 1) I don't need that much meat and I am mostly a meat/experience the outdoors hunters 2) It takes time and money to go hunting. As far as how hard? Well, this year my dad and I hunted for 8 days to each kill a caribou, but it was harder than usual they were very dispersed and far off the road/trails. We put in over 200miles in the backcountry on four-wheelers. Usually its more like 3 days. We were fortunate to have freedom of schedule to stay out so long. You can spend a lot of money on hunting stuff, though. Its a kind of expensive hobby to get into but the trip expenses arent bad at all. Once you have all the stuff. Mainly I have a small atv (4 wheeler) which if I was to go buy one right now I'd spend maybe 9k$ on but in fact I bought mine 17 years ago for 4K$ (Which I saved very fucking hard for over 2 years @ 14) and maybe 5k$ in optics/electronics/rifle etc for caribou hunting that I've gradually spent over the years I started out with cheaper stuff. Obviously guided hunting and trophy hunting can be VERY VERY expensive. It is big business here. A lot of residents self hunt though. Its not exactly a financial reason to hunt for yourself, its more of a lifestyle choice. People tend to think you hate animals or something, but I love and appreciate wildlife more than almost anyone I know. I've trapped thousands of muskrats for example but I think they are cool critters and it makes me super happy to see/watch them out of season.

Meat is very lean and good for you compared to basically any storebought meat. It is actually far healthier and more environmentally friendly than farmed/ranched meat. Populations are managed pretty carefully and the rules are quite complicated actually. I don't like the word 'gamey' because everything tastes different but its not that strong. But yes caribou tastes different than moose or deer or beef. It tastes like caribou. xd. Some people don't like it, but I actually like it a lot. If you live somewhere where you can buy higher end 'reindeer' (caribou are basically north american version of reindeer) or 'elk' meat thats free range it is basically like that. But that shits expensive. Wild game, even when fat and healthy are very different than cows that live in feed lot their whole life, the fat is all under the skin, outside the muscles or layered in the intestinal cavity. THere is virtually no fat "marbled" in the muscle because these critters actually use their muscles. they travel 5k+ miles a year. Basically moving constantly.

When I was gone this fall caribou hunting I told my WoW guild that I was larping my wow character for a week and a half.


As to Diablo: As someone who actually LOVES D3 (and will play the next season very seriously and try for top 10 on leaderboards again) I don't give two flying shits if Blizzard sells out and makes (has someone make) a Diablo mobile game. I won't play it, but I don't care that it exists. Seriously though, how fucking out of touch do you have to be to pitch it as the feature presentation to the hardcore gamers who attend blizzcon? They deserve everything they got rofl

ur so fukin cool
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TL+ Member
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 09 2018 09:08 GMT
#196953
Yt on the switch is nice, but I'll probably next to never use it due to no adblock.
passive quaranstream fan
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2018 13:59 GMT
#196954
America politics has returned, Florida is now fighting over the election results before the results are in.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7755 Posts
November 09 2018 14:35 GMT
#196955
Why is it always Florida?
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-09 14:47:07
November 09 2018 14:45 GMT
#196956
On November 09 2018 23:35 PoulsenB wrote:
Why is it always Florida?

The state is very evenly split between shit headed Republican voters in the north, and psychotic, pull-out-handguns-during-road-rage Dem voters in the south
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2018 14:48 GMT
#196957
Florida is filled with old retirees and insane people. It isn't a good mix
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 09 2018 14:56 GMT
#196958
id say its too hot for the human brain?
passive quaranstream fan
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2018 14:59 GMT
#196959
It is also a staggeringly poor state with pockets of wealth and bad governance.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 09 2018 15:14 GMT
#196960
The entire state is populated with copies of Danny devitos character in Matilda
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
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