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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-05 22:02:03
November 05 2018 21:50 GMT
#196821
Blizzard made precisely one game for the HC community, which was SC2, and even then they used it to try and bring HC-gaming to the non-HC masses.

Their original line of games were the then-equivalent of mass-market AAA titles. They were innovative but not especially hardcore-oriented. One of these just happened to become the crown jewel of eSports off the back of unintentional mechanics and pure serendipity, at a time when blizz themselves were focused on the giant casual money factory that is/was wow.

A bunch of years later blizz realised they could cash in this whole eSports thing, and made SC2. They had a red-hot go, but even here they tried to focus on accessibility and had a lot of issues re-bottling the eSports lightning due to this (see colossi vs bw reavers). Which is fine, by the way. SC2 wouldn't have sold half as many copies if it had been a BW reskin with all the painful 90 mechanics.

Since then they've pretty much focused on casualised versions of more hardcore games - HS vs MTG, HOTS vs dotes. They've never, ever been the type of by-hardcores for-hardcores company you seem to have in your head.

If anything they seem to see themselves as a company built on dumbing down hardcore stuff for the masses, which mobile Diablo would actually be a textbook example of.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-05 22:17:26
November 05 2018 22:14 GMT
#196822
TBH: Blizzard is a company that refines design ideas found in other games and adds the Blizzard polish onto everything. They, like Nintendo, are the the closest thing we have to Disney in video games. They have this comically bitter group of self titled "hard core gamers" that is so upset Blizzard doesn't make games only for them. And every couple of Blizcons they throw a fit over something embarrassing.

Seriously, making games for "the masses". This is like the worst elitism of film critique, but over a video games about punching the devil until he goes away.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 05 2018 22:15 GMT
#196823
On November 06 2018 05:29 Faruko wrote:
Holy shit Apple, that's a sharp drop

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


What did it make Apple drop $25?

earnings report

they also announced they would stop releasing numbers sold for iphones (i think the growth is 0)
© Current year.
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
November 05 2018 23:32 GMT
#196824
On November 06 2018 07:15 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2018 05:29 Faruko wrote:
Holy shit Apple, that's a sharp drop

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


What did it make Apple drop $25?

earnings report

they also announced they would stop releasing numbers sold for iphones (i think the growth is 0)


units sold growth is 0 but theyve jacked up the price so everyone is spending $200 more for a phone wew
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
November 06 2018 00:59 GMT
#196825
YTD still positive on apple so it really only affects gamblers.
High Risk Low Reward
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-06 11:10:41
November 06 2018 10:35 GMT
#196826
Now i read that the iPhone XR is selling not good enough and people are even buying thr iPhone 8 lol

Seems like people likes button
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-06 12:58:21
November 06 2018 12:55 GMT
#196827
A just rediscovered that I registered for a Diablo 2 forum in 2002.
Still some guys from back then posting every now and then in the old Tavern thread lol

we should do a 8 man HC run of LoD at some point. first one dying has to play support paladin next run!
no turning back from a battle after clearing act 1. Duriel or bust
passive quaranstream fan
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 06 2018 14:11 GMT
#196828
Election Day!!!! Traffic sucks.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 06 2018 14:36 GMT
#196829
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
November 06 2018 14:51 GMT
#196830
I wish that was my job
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-06 15:15:08
November 06 2018 15:01 GMT
#196831
Hard to work employees to death if you don't make any games.

Also doubt their stock or results will suffer. Dota lost 2/3rds of its playerbase and they are still breaking bank.
It's like the golden age of poker, you just have to abuse the whales.

There's just a small disconnect with blizzard expecting their audience to be hyped for a mobile game when they have released what, 3 games for consoles and one topdeckmoba for iPaddles in the last two decades. The ex-audience also needs to realize that anyone ambitious enough to make a videogame has left the company by now. And I do consider sc2 a real game, their last games just have minimal gameplay mechanics or any new lore really (, not to praise sc2 lore).

https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
November 06 2018 15:22 GMT
#196832
I love it when fast food Twitter gets sassy.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7755 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-06 15:59:32
November 06 2018 15:32 GMT
#196833
I've recently been doing more administrative tasks at my job and it's a nice change of pace from the day-to-day grind, even tough I'm still getting used to increased responsibility.

edit: oh I passed the 5k posts mark
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
November 06 2018 16:52 GMT
#196834
On November 07 2018 00:32 PoulsenB wrote:
I've recently been doing more administrative tasks at my job and it's a nice change of pace from the day-to-day grind, even tough I'm still getting used to increased responsibility.

edit: oh I passed the 5k posts mark

congrats Poulsen! On both things you said
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 06 2018 17:26 GMT
#196835
Apparently the county coroner is an elected position.
Wondering why I haven't seen more coroner's on the campaign trail
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 06 2018 17:33 GMT
#196836
On November 07 2018 02:26 PassiveAce wrote:
Apparently the county coroner is an elected position.
Wondering why I haven't seen more coroner's on the campaign trail

"If your corpse comes to me I promise to examine it as thoroughly as possible. Unless you're brown."

- Republican Coroner
Writer@WriterYamato
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-06 17:36:35
November 06 2018 17:35 GMT
#196837
On November 07 2018 02:26 PassiveAce wrote:
Apparently the county coroner is an elected position.
Wondering why I haven't seen more coroner's on the campaign trail

Really? is it that way in all counties/states?

It's not like that in Canada (not that many people are so familiar with coroners per se, but my uncle is a career public servant and has a reasonably important role as a provincial coroner. judicial, not medical)
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 06 2018 17:51 GMT
#196838
On November 07 2018 02:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 02:26 PassiveAce wrote:
Apparently the county coroner is an elected position.
Wondering why I haven't seen more coroner's on the campaign trail

Really? is it that way in all counties/states?

It's not like that in Canada (not that many people are so familiar with coroners per se, but my uncle is a career public servant and has a reasonably important role as a provincial coroner. judicial, not medical)

In no way. MA doesn't vote on that silly stuff.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-06 18:13:21
November 06 2018 18:11 GMT
#196839
On November 07 2018 02:33 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 02:26 PassiveAce wrote:
Apparently the county coroner is an elected position.
Wondering why I haven't seen more coroner's on the campaign trail

"If your corpse comes to me I promise to examine it as thoroughly as possible. Unless you're brown."

- Republican Coroner

It literally said (Democrat) or (Republican) next to the candidates names lmao

On November 07 2018 02:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 02:26 PassiveAce wrote:
Apparently the county coroner is an elected position.
Wondering why I haven't seen more coroner's on the campaign trail

Really? is it that way in all counties/states?

It's not like that in Canada (not that many people are so familiar with coroners per se, but my uncle is a career public servant and has a reasonably important role as a provincial coroner. judicial, not medical)

I don't remember seeing this in Michigan so I think it's just a weird local Colorado thing
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 06 2018 18:12 GMT
#196840
I have traveled down a dark rabbit hole to find replacement rockband 2 parts and accessories. This is a bad place of a bygone era of gaming. Or an era that never should have never been linked to consoles and just worked through a streaming service or something. Like an apple TV, but for music and plastic instruments.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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