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Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
October 29 2018 08:13 GMT
#196561
The only singleplayer game i bought recently was new Tomb Raider but I havent played it yet. The other ones were great though, im looking forward to it
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
October 29 2018 15:13 GMT
#196562
I bought Banner Saga 3 when it came out just before TI and was really excited to play it, wanted to play through the first two again before starting it though just to have a fresh save... I still have not started that game
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 29 2018 17:13 GMT
#196563
Is Banner Saga that franchise you described to me as being either way too easy or way too challenging depending on the difficulty?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 17:19:32
October 29 2018 17:18 GMT
#196564
I never really saw the point of making Banner Saga super hard. The combat is interesting enough, but I would never want it to be super challenging given the game is all about brutal narrative choices with unknown outcomes. Reliable combat was felt like reprieve from the risk of losing characters for small choices.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 29 2018 17:25 GMT
#196565
I've watched the ASL S6 finals and must say that SC:BW is by far the best rts to watch. Now with the better graphics it's even fun to just watch the supply depot or a nydus canal and look for the changes they made.

I think apart from the mirror matchups (MB except TvT) every single one of them is fun to watch.
passive quaranstream fan
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 29 2018 17:33 GMT
#196566
I think the zoom feature is especially nice for that game actually.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 29 2018 17:39 GMT
#196567
damn oneplus6t for 250 with tmobile is a screaming deal
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 17:42:04
October 29 2018 17:40 GMT
#196568
yeah but what about all the factional imbalance clearly represented by the fact that MY player didn't win???

also I thought effort vs last semifinals was maybe a better series but both were surprisingly excellent.

On October 30 2018 02:33 intotheheart wrote:
I think the zoom feature is especially nice for that game actually.


The thing about the zoom feature is it almost cheapens how utterly impossible it is to get 200 supply armies to do what you want in that game.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 17:42:46
October 29 2018 17:42 GMT
#196569
On October 30 2018 02:25 Artisreal wrote:
I've watched the ASL S6 finals and must say that SC:BW is by far the best rts to watch. Now with the better graphics it's even fun to just watch the supply depot or a nydus canal and look for the changes they made.

I think apart from the mirror matchups (MB except TvT) every single one of them is fun to watch.

All of them have appeal. ZvZ is probably the least interesting, but it isn't bad. The rare hive zvz is always fun.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 17:45:19
October 29 2018 17:45 GMT
#196570
My favourite part of watching top level zvz is how every little thing is so important. You cant lose a single drone, a single zergling, etc. Sure, build-order losses are kinda lame but it's also a super cool mindgame. its like 5d rock paper scissors with a ton of execution thrown in.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 29 2018 17:47 GMT
#196571
On October 30 2018 02:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
yeah but what about all the factional imbalance clearly represented by the fact that MY player didn't win???

also I thought effort vs last semifinals was maybe a better series but both were surprisingly excellent.

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 02:33 intotheheart wrote:
I think the zoom feature is especially nice for that game actually.


The thing about the zoom feature is it almost cheapens how utterly impossible it is to get 200 supply armies to do what you want in that game.

Well I meant that for the observing aspect of it. Certainly won't dedicate much time in actually playing it.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 29 2018 17:52 GMT
#196572
On October 30 2018 02:47 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 02:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
yeah but what about all the factional imbalance clearly represented by the fact that MY player didn't win???

also I thought effort vs last semifinals was maybe a better series but both were surprisingly excellent.

On October 30 2018 02:33 intotheheart wrote:
I think the zoom feature is especially nice for that game actually.


The thing about the zoom feature is it almost cheapens how utterly impossible it is to get 200 supply armies to do what you want in that game.

Well I meant that for the observing aspect of it. Certainly won't dedicate much time in actually playing it.

Yeah that's what I meant too. If you can zoom out and watch the whole battle, then you don't feel how the players are frantically trying to manage this massive battle with their tiny screen and vastly inadequate control groupings, lack of smart casting, terrible pathfinding and hotkey locations, etc.

I mean yeah it looks cool and I like it, It's just a shame that it further distances you from the supreme mechanical prowess that these players are displaying. It's nice sometimes to be reminded that with 40 supply I couldn't make the control look as smooth as these players with their 200.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 17:56:08
October 29 2018 17:55 GMT
#196573
On October 30 2018 02:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
My favourite part of watching top level zvz is how every little thing is so important. You cant lose a single drone, a single zergling, etc. Sure, build-order losses are kinda lame but it's also a super cool mindgame. its like 5d rock paper scissors with a ton of execution thrown in.

I think all of ZvZ is fun except when it's like 3 stacked groups of mutas fighting and literally no one can tell who is winning until they've already lost
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 18:01:34
October 29 2018 17:57 GMT
#196574
The occasional rare high level zvz is glorious, no doubt about that, but I was speaking more generally and if I had to choose I'd personally go for TvT instead of any other mirror matchup.

I read on TL that the semi with effort was nice to watch too but firstly didn't find any vods to torrent and secondly didn't have the time (no Internet at home xd)

Casters were a bit too hype and sweeping in their assessment for my taste but were fine on the whole.

It's sometimes similar to football, when they shoot a pass over 3/4 of the field and the receiving player just stops it with one little flick of his foot. Bam mind blown. Everyone aghast. At the same time, no big deal for the players.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 29 2018 18:00 GMT
#196575
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27174930

That thread (and more specifically the post I linked for Effort v Last) has all the BW vods. It's ususally a few days behind (probably for spoiler purposes? idk) but it's very easy to find what you want. Tastosis casting combo is about as good as it gets for English, even if sometimes they can grate. If you can't stand them, there are usually youtube vods of the korean casters somewhere out there for the true BW experience.
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 29 2018 18:05 GMT
#196576
Yt download took too long for me to take the vods home unfortunately.
But I've forgotten about that thread, it's been so long...
Tastosis I appreciate, but the haute cuisine would be subtitled Korean Casters. But that's so much work that it's unlikely to be done for all but the very best casts..
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
October 29 2018 18:16 GMT
#196577
On October 30 2018 02:39 Spicy_Curry wrote:
damn oneplus6t for 250 with tmobile is a screaming deal

i gotta be honest

i thought lacking a headphone jack was whatever, until i got a phone with no headphone jack

holy shit it's super annoying, not a deal breaker but still
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 29 2018 18:19 GMT
#196578
What baffles me about the whole headphone jack fiasco is that I cannot believe that it saves the manufacturers that much time/expense/whatever to exclude it. I get that apple is pants-on-head idiotic and hates offering useful features, but how on earth is anybody dumb enough to copy them?

Even if it wasn't a big deal to lack it, they should still offer it for whatever margin of people still want it.
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 29 2018 18:24 GMT
#196579
Does it have to do with waterproofing?
Is it maybe more complicated than with a USB-C port?

I dunno... Saving space for..... À second speaker ?
passive quaranstream fan
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 29 2018 18:26 GMT
#196580
Uuh I actually just now read some report about waterproofing (not sure how accurate) and it turns out the old method was to just throw tons of glue/adhesives into the problem areas and call it a day. I get the feeling charging would always be an issue anyway, although more and more phones are starting to do wireless charging.

I honestly can't think of why, besides "elegance" or something but maybe it had to do with waterproofing.
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