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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 24 2018 15:32 GMT
#188221
did they ask u for this gosi?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
March 24 2018 15:49 GMT
#188222
The happiest countries also tend to be the highest users of anti-depressants, fun fact.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 24 2018 15:52 GMT
#188223
wouldnt france be higher up then ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 24 2018 15:57 GMT
#188224
my memory of self-reported happiness surveys is that self-reporting happiness is considered pretty reasonable / accurate
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
March 24 2018 16:05 GMT
#188225
On March 25 2018 00:31 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 00:19 Gosi wrote:
how is this measured?

The happiness stuff is often measured more so in terms of how "content" people are, it's why denmark is often at the top of all those stupid "Happiest countries of the world" things. Fuck no we aren't happy, we're just relatively content because our expectations are low as fuck.



Yeah, similar here wish is why I cringe a little bit when Sweden is always painted in such high regards.

The amount of people living in shitty and poor municipalities with sub-par healthcare (lol waiting 8 months to see a doctor so he could give a new prescription for my antidepressants wadupp), awful schools or no job prospects is pretty high outside of the Stockholm/Gothenburg areas. Nearest police or ambulance can be 1-2 hours away because budgets are so low and that's all the "local" police/hospital can afford. People up north travel to Finland to have their babies because the maternity ward at the nearest hospital got cut. Housing situation being garbage, we have a big problem with gambling addiction and just high personal debts etc.

Not to say that everyone is fucking depressed but it's more likely being content than happy. But yeah, if you're from Stockholm and strolling around on Södermalm all year with a nice get-away with the family to your vacation spot in the Stockholm archipelago then I'm sure life is great.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
March 24 2018 16:09 GMT
#188226
I thought the happiest country was Butan,
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-10 23:19:53
March 24 2018 16:16 GMT
#188227
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
March 24 2018 16:20 GMT
#188228
I wish Sweden would have a law similar to Norway where wealth is distributed evenly among municipalities across the country. Only way to prevent trigger happy politicians in Stockholm to fuck over the countryside in every way possible.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
March 24 2018 16:21 GMT
#188229
i know a dane who gets paid to go to uni, must be nice to get paid to get education
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
March 24 2018 16:23 GMT
#188230
did you guys do anything about the 200 year mortgages :D

You are mostly ok in Finland as long as you don't need competent mental or physical public health services and are a woman.

In rural areas they can't tell flu and terminal cancer from each other and treat bad hips as spinal injury for 20 years.

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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 16:25:48
March 24 2018 16:23 GMT
#188231
It's like pocket change though. Unless you live home for free you still have student debt. Not US-tier but still...

On March 25 2018 01:23 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
did you guys do anything about the 200 year mortgages :D


yeah it's only like 100 years now!
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 16:32:36
March 24 2018 16:32 GMT
#188232
On March 25 2018 01:21 2009 wrote:
i know a dane who gets paid to go to uni, must be nice to get paid to get education

That's how it is for everyone here, but yeah outside of specific cases it's mediocre.

On March 25 2018 01:05 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 00:31 Unleashing wrote:
On March 25 2018 00:19 Gosi wrote:
how is this measured?

The happiness stuff is often measured more so in terms of how "content" people are, it's why denmark is often at the top of all those stupid "Happiest countries of the world" things. Fuck no we aren't happy, we're just relatively content because our expectations are low as fuck.



Yeah, similar here wish is why I cringe a little bit when Sweden is always painted in such high regards.

The amount of people living in shitty and poor municipalities with sub-par healthcare (lol waiting 8 months to see a doctor so he could give a new prescription for my antidepressants wadupp), awful schools or no job prospects is pretty high outside of the Stockholm/Gothenburg areas. Nearest police or ambulance can be 1-2 hours away because budgets are so low and that's all the "local" police/hospital can afford. People up north travel to Finland to have their babies because the maternity ward at the nearest hospital got cut. Housing situation being garbage, we have a big problem with gambling addiction and just high personal debts etc.

Not to say that everyone is fucking depressed but it's more likely being content than happy. But yeah, if you're from Stockholm and strolling around on Södermalm all year with a nice get-away with the family to your vacation spot in the Stockholm archipelago then I'm sure life is great.

Denmark being much smaller size wise probably helps keep these problems smaller too.
And while various social programs are getting budget cuts we have people cry about how evil we are because we'd require immigrants that have lived in denmark for years upon years but still don't speak danish to pay for their own translators when they go to the doctor.
It's fucking dumb.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 16:45:51
March 24 2018 16:43 GMT
#188233
In Finland it maxes at about 20k I think. It's mostly so you get used to paying shit the previous generations didn't have to pay to live (instead they paid car loans and mortgages with it) and then you get to pay for their bloated unsustainable pensions(,which is also why all the immigrants were invited). There just hardly any work or any attempt create new jobs.
haha, that's kind of what happens when your demographic is skewed and old people vote is all that matters - old narcissistic people if there's any truth to the studies I've read (,or my personal experiences). It's like watching a disaster in slow mo.

if I somehow don't kill myself I'm booking it, Finland won't be on top of happiness charts in ten years

e. we made it almost 2 days without depressing shit, i take no responsibility
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
March 24 2018 16:52 GMT
#188234
On March 25 2018 01:43 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
In Finland it maxes at about 20k I think. It's mostly so you get used to paying shit the previous generations didn't have to pay to live (instead they paid car loans and mortgages with it) and then you get to pay for their bloated unsustainable pensions(,which is also why all the immigrants were invited). There just hardly any work or any attempt create new jobs.
haha, that's kind of what happens when your demographic is skewed and old people vote is all that matters - old narcissistic people if there's any truth to the studies I've read (,or my personal experiences). It's like watching a disaster in slow mo.

if I somehow don't kill myself I'm booking it, Finland won't be on top of happiness charts in ten years

e. we made it almost 2 days without depressing shit, i take no responsibility

The elderly live in shit conditions today already, and people still believe they're gonna get a state pension when they get old. And since most people buy into the whole system a lot of them don't do any saving on their own. It's gonna be so bad when this shit crash.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
March 24 2018 17:02 GMT
#188235
On March 25 2018 00:57 eieio wrote:
my memory of self-reported happiness surveys is that self-reporting happiness is considered pretty reasonable / accurate

But UN's happiness report isn't just based off of surveys. It's also based on the systems for well-being, healthcare and financial safety that the countries have. In a closed off environment this of course means its easier to be happy, that makes sense right. Self reporting actually varies on cultural differences so they're not that dependable globally.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 17:14:50
March 24 2018 17:03 GMT
#188236
On March 25 2018 02:02 Nixer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 00:57 eieio wrote:
my memory of self-reported happiness surveys is that self-reporting happiness is considered pretty reasonable / accurate

But UN's happiness report isn't just based off of surveys. It's also based on the systems for well-being, healthcare and financial safety that the countries have. In a closed off environment this of course means its easier to be happy, that makes sense right. Self reporting actually varies on cultural differences so they're not that dependable globally.

ah yeah I could imagine it varying pretty heavily by country, I must be thinking of comparisons across similar cultures


On March 25 2018 01:16 Comeh wrote:
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On March 24 2018 18:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On March 24 2018 13:12 Comeh wrote:
On March 24 2018 12:09 Fleetfeet wrote:
On March 24 2018 11:09 Comeh wrote:
broken up with


Shit man, rough. Hope its bearable hurt

its not

trying hard to distract myself cause honestly kind of dangerous hurt atm

It sucks now, but just know you will eventually move on and find someone else. Look forward to that.

Best thing you can do at the moment is talk to your family or a friend.

Knowing who I am and the kind of person I am, I find it hard to believe that I won't stop loving this girl. Might just have to be done with relationships for awhile

atm just trying to avoid suicidal thoughts, but im sure i wont do anything dont worry guys

this blows be safe
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
March 24 2018 17:39 GMT
#188237
On March 25 2018 01:16 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 18:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On March 24 2018 13:12 Comeh wrote:
On March 24 2018 12:09 Fleetfeet wrote:
On March 24 2018 11:09 Comeh wrote:
broken up with


Shit man, rough. Hope its bearable hurt

its not

trying hard to distract myself cause honestly kind of dangerous hurt atm

It sucks now, but just know you will eventually move on and find someone else. Look forward to that.

Best thing you can do at the moment is talk to your family or a friend.

Knowing who I am and the kind of person I am, I find it hard to believe that I won't stop loving this girl. Might just have to be done with relationships for awhile

atm just trying to avoid suicidal thoughts, but im sure i wont do anything dont worry guys

It gets better.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2836 Posts
March 24 2018 19:38 GMT
#188238
I had to go to therapy to (mentally) murder a girlfriend from a 5 year relationship that... honestly was never actually good for me, I just never recognized it in the thing itself. I was in love, and I was happy... isn't that all I'm supposed to need?

Anyway it ended and I went into a 3 year long depression and was miserable and nonfunctional for a very long time, but -also- did not kill myself. I strongly endorse getting help, and if you need help getting help get that too!
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 24 2018 19:55 GMT
#188239
Cosign, I went back to therapy ~2 months ago and it's been so good for me in the wake of my breakup
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
March 24 2018 20:13 GMT
#188240
I did an internship at karolinska in sweden and the god damn nurses would just go home without telling the attending. !!?!?!?!? What the fuck guys. Everything was so disgustingly disorganized.
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