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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 17 2015 17:49 GMT
#18221
Oh shit ya I heard they are coming to Xbox...is it xboxone caused I only have xbox360

Ground zero I can't be bothered apparently you can finish the game in 45mins or something but the price was the price of an average game.

And you really can't blame kojima knows nothing about PC gaming lol. If anything, capcom is smart enough to team up with valve to release that RE:remake not long ago that I highly encourage every RE fan to get it if you weren't lucky enough like me to play it on GC back then
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 17 2015 17:50 GMT
#18222
On March 18 2015 02:35 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 02:30 Comeh wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:27 teddyoojo wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:26 Comeh wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:25 l3loodraven wrote:
it is 1:30 in the afternoon no wonder you're depressed

I'm not drinking...
yet.

thats the problem

also im actually grinding mmr currently i even pick troll in some games

Sometimes its hard to motivate myself to tryhard. One day i'll get in the mood to get 5.5k, but honestly being good at solo queuing doesn't mean you are good at dota really.

i think its just an if function
being good at solo q => being good at dota
but not necessarily
being good at dota => being good at solo q

why would u say being good at soloq = good at dota theres so many awful 7ks its insane
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
March 17 2015 17:52 GMT
#18223
Phantom Pain is my most anticipated game after Witcher 3, just upgraded my PC last week to get the most out of these two.

I did buy Ground Zeroes too but didn't put that many hours into it, I'm too old to hunt all the collectibles and shit these days, it's really more of a tech demo and sets up the story for Phantom Pain than anything else, kind a like tanker in MGS2 I guess. I did collect all the hidden frogs in MGS3 and stuff like that in the past.

Also I have to second buying the HD collection, I enjoyed peace walker more on PS3 than PSP.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
March 17 2015 17:53 GMT
#18224
On March 18 2015 02:50 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 02:35 ChunderBoy wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:30 Comeh wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:27 teddyoojo wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:26 Comeh wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:25 l3loodraven wrote:
it is 1:30 in the afternoon no wonder you're depressed

I'm not drinking...
yet.

thats the problem

also im actually grinding mmr currently i even pick troll in some games

Sometimes its hard to motivate myself to tryhard. One day i'll get in the mood to get 5.5k, but honestly being good at solo queuing doesn't mean you are good at dota really.

i think its just an if function
being good at solo q => being good at dota
but not necessarily
being good at dota => being good at solo q

why would u say being good at soloq = good at dota theres so many awful 7ks its insane

excluding meepo pickers... awful relative to whom?
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 17 2015 17:53 GMT
#18225
On March 18 2015 02:49 BurningSera wrote:
Oh shit ya I heard they are coming to Xbox...is it xboxone caused I only have xbox360

Ground zero I can't be bothered apparently you can finish the game in 45mins or something but the price was the price of an average game.

And you really can't blame kojima knows nothing about PC gaming lol. If anything, capcom is smart enough to team up with valve to release that RE:remake not long ago that I highly encourage every RE fan to get it if you weren't lucky enough like me to play it on GC back then

Metal Gear Solid 5 is coming to PC. You might be thinking about the other guy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 17 2015 17:56 GMT
#18226
I keep wanting to upgrade my PC but intel continually refuse to release an actual improvement in processor tech since the core ix-2x00 generation

Just buying another GPU is hard to justify because I know i'd never reuse it in a new build when actually improved CPU's eventually come out.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 17 2015 17:56 GMT
#18227
On March 18 2015 02:53 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 02:50 teddyoojo wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:35 ChunderBoy wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:30 Comeh wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:27 teddyoojo wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:26 Comeh wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:25 l3loodraven wrote:
it is 1:30 in the afternoon no wonder you're depressed

I'm not drinking...
yet.

thats the problem

also im actually grinding mmr currently i even pick troll in some games

Sometimes its hard to motivate myself to tryhard. One day i'll get in the mood to get 5.5k, but honestly being good at solo queuing doesn't mean you are good at dota really.

i think its just an if function
being good at solo q => being good at dota
but not necessarily
being good at dota => being good at solo q

why would u say being good at soloq = good at dota theres so many awful 7ks its insane

excluding meepo pickers... awful relative to whom?

well i guess if you see "good at dota" in the grander scheme of all of dota i guess ur right
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 17 2015 18:00 GMT
#18228
I am waiting for this Steam streaming box to come out before I upgrade. If I can stream single player games downstairs and it doesn't suck, I'll upgrade the PC. If not, I might invest in a PS4.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 17 2015 18:00 GMT
#18229
On March 18 2015 02:49 BurningSera wrote:
Oh shit ya I heard they are coming to Xbox...is it xboxone caused I only have xbox360

Ground zero I can't be bothered apparently you can finish the game in 45mins or something but the price was the price of an average game.

And you really can't blame kojima knows nothing about PC gaming lol. If anything, capcom is smart enough to team up with valve to release that RE:remake not long ago that I highly encourage every RE fan to get it if you weren't lucky enough like me to play it on GC back then

no its 360 no worries
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DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
March 17 2015 18:01 GMT
#18230
On March 18 2015 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I keep wanting to upgrade my PC but intel continually refuse to release an actual improvement in processor tech since the core ix-2x00 generation

Just buying another GPU is hard to justify because I know i'd never reuse it in a new build when actually improved CPU's eventually come out.


And there will be no significant update in the near future, buy one now or just upgrade the GPU like I do. Or wait for GPU/both till later in the year and go for DDR4+ix-5xxx(14nm)+new ATI/NVidia card
But does it djent?
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
March 17 2015 18:01 GMT
#18231
On March 18 2015 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I keep wanting to upgrade my PC but intel continually refuse to release an actual improvement in processor tech since the core ix-2x00 generation

what.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
March 17 2015 18:05 GMT
#18232
On March 18 2015 03:01 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I keep wanting to upgrade my PC but intel continually refuse to release an actual improvement in processor tech since the core ix-2x00 generation

what.


Each Gen has like a ~10% jump in performance since the 2x00-Generation. If you have an i5 or i7 of the 2x00k-series and you overclock it, then you really don't need a new CPU since it will probably beat everything on normal clockspeed of the 47xxk series.
But does it djent?
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 17 2015 18:08 GMT
#18233
"i'm dumb... that's why i'm a twitch spammer. if you're a twitch spammer, you're probably also dumb" - bulldong 2015
posting on liquid sites in current year
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 18:11:21
March 17 2015 18:11 GMT
#18234
On March 18 2015 03:01 DaMuffinman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I keep wanting to upgrade my PC but intel continually refuse to release an actual improvement in processor tech since the core ix-2x00 generation

Just buying another GPU is hard to justify because I know i'd never reuse it in a new build when actually improved CPU's eventually come out.

Or wait for GPU/both till later in the year and go for DDR4+ix-5xxx(14nm)+new ATI/NVidia card

thats the plan. only problem is that it's been the plan for a while and dates keep getting pushed back etc lol
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 18:17:51
March 17 2015 18:17 GMT
#18235
oh nice they finally took heroes of the shitstorm out of my Other Games section thank god
i still miss CSGO
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
March 17 2015 18:21 GMT
#18236
On March 18 2015 03:05 DaMuffinman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 03:01 andyrau wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I keep wanting to upgrade my PC but intel continually refuse to release an actual improvement in processor tech since the core ix-2x00 generation

what.


Each Gen has like a ~10% jump in performance since the 2x00-Generation. If you have an i5 or i7 of the 2x00k-series and you overclock it, then you really don't need a new CPU since it will probably beat everything on normal clockspeed of the 47xxk series.

well this is not my field but as I understand it, the chip architecture hasnt changed much from a macro pov from ivy to broadwell
but die shrink, exponential growth in transistor numbers, native pcie and usb 3.0 support, far better integrated gfx for a higher requirement ceiling before offloading it to your dedicated gfx chip, etc etc
those aren't negligible improvements

besides all of that iirc the ivybridge chipset sucked for ocing
or was that sandybridge as well i forget
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
March 17 2015 18:24 GMT
#18237
Both Haswell and ivy bridge were pretty bad for overclocking
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
March 17 2015 18:26 GMT
#18238
On March 18 2015 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
oh nice they finally took heroes of the shitstorm out of my Other Games section thank god
i still miss CSGO
i actually completely stopped reading the csgo thread ever since they made you go to TL first rip tofu
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 18:28:25
March 17 2015 18:27 GMT
#18239
On March 18 2015 03:21 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 03:05 DaMuffinman wrote:
On March 18 2015 03:01 andyrau wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I keep wanting to upgrade my PC but intel continually refuse to release an actual improvement in processor tech since the core ix-2x00 generation

what.


Each Gen has like a ~10% jump in performance since the 2x00-Generation. If you have an i5 or i7 of the 2x00k-series and you overclock it, then you really don't need a new CPU since it will probably beat everything on normal clockspeed of the 47xxk series.

well this is not my field but as I understand it, the chip architecture hasnt changed much from a macro pov from ivy to broadwell
but die shrink, exponential growth in transistor numbers, native pcie and usb 3.0 support, far better integrated gfx for a higher requirement ceiling before offloading it to your dedicated gfx chip, etc etc
those aren't negligible improvements

besides all of that iirc the ivybridge chipset sucked for ocing
or was that sandybridge as well i forget

all this to say
10% CPU performance improvement at best per generation
aka
negligible
like i give a fuck about igpu
pcie/usb3 etc are chipset improvements that have nothign to do with the processor but that intel try to use to sell u new unimproved processors.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 17 2015 18:29 GMT
#18240
On March 18 2015 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I keep wanting to upgrade my PC but intel continually refuse to release an actual improvement in processor tech since the core ix-2x00 generation

Just buying another GPU is hard to justify because I know i'd never reuse it in a new build when actually improved CPU's eventually come out.

well they came out with tri-gate transisters for their CPU's which is pretty big. They're reaching physical limitations for that kind of stuff
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