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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
tusk- barely played phoenix- reworked multiple times, probably imbalanced on release swm- buffed multiple times before he got imba ember spirit- imbalanced on release timbersaw- buffed a lot, never been imba (though there was a point after TI3 when he got picked a lot but he only got a minor nerf) LC- pretty balanced arc warden- theoretically imba as fuck winter wyvern- balanced, mostly been buffed since release earth spirit- imba oracle- imba | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
what a disappointing day | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:48 tehh4ck3r wrote: i mean if you look at all the heroes added since dota 2 (~2011): tusk- barely played phoenix- reworked multiple times, probably imbalanced on release swm- buffed multiple times before he got imba ember spirit- imbalanced on release timbersaw- buffed a lot, never been imba (though there was a point after TI3 when he got picked a lot but he only got a minor nerf) LC- pretty balanced arc warden- theoretically imba as fuck winter wyvern- balanced, mostly been buffed since release earth spirit- imba oracle- imba timbersaw was utterly broken | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
On March 10 2015 08:03 teddyoojo wrote: man im in a game with alur and trixi and server shoots itself what a disappointing day maybe it was just never meant to be | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
edit: and the worst part is that its probably gonna take icefraud about a year and a half to make him viable again after those nerfs | ||
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United Kingdom3341 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:44 TheYango wrote: lol what is this revisionist history about TI4 "Death balls" were not a problem leading up to TI4. Like, leading up to TI4, EG and DK were spearheading relatively slow, farm-oriented playstyles with comparatively farm-focused mid, safe lane, and support play. VG, which was the team that primarily launched the style into prominence was a total mess until a relatively close to the event. Even at The Summit, their play wasn't totally refined enough for a lot of teams to consider the playstyle itself that scary. Huh, that is simply not true? Nor painting the complete picture. Even for some of the examples you cite. EG played and drafted incredibly aggressive safe lanes when compared to the norm. Now granted, that was partially due to their lineup, but its a far cry from a "farm focused" playstyle. | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
hell, leveling my solo ranked has the same shit. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On March 10 2015 08:16 dismiss wrote: Huh, that is simply not true? Nor painting the complete picture. Even for some of the examples you cite. EG played and drafted incredibly aggressive safe lanes when compared to the norm. Now granted, that was partially due to their lineup, but its a far cry from a "farm focused" playstyle. EG has never drafted or played anything that can be seen as "incredibly aggressive" until after TI4 | ||
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United Kingdom3341 Posts
On March 10 2015 08:44 Kupon3ss wrote: EG has never drafted or played anything that can be seen as "incredibly aggressive" until after TI4 Their 3 stable safe laners were veno, tide and panda . All of which are significantly more aggressive than your usual agi carries. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
Bitch all they played was fucking mirana | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
On March 10 2015 08:16 dismiss wrote: Huh, that is simply not true? Nor painting the complete picture. Even for some of the examples you cite. EG played and drafted incredibly aggressive safe lanes when compared to the norm. Now granted, that was partially due to their lineup, but its a far cry from a "farm focused" playstyle. EG drafted zai greedy junglers/supports all the time- visage, enigma, ursa (that one game at TI4), etc. enigma was one of their most played heroes at TI4 and no safelane with enigma is going to be considered "incredibly aggressive" | ||
ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On March 10 2015 08:35 BluemoonSC wrote: leveling up party ranked has been pretty torturous. 4.2k storm players vs our lowly 3k silencer who is last wording creeps...not great. hell, leveling my solo ranked has the same shit. I've never seen much point in party ranked. The fact that you move in lockstep with your friends makes it really weird. If you really wanted to grind it it would be a game of finding friends who are underrated because they mostly solo or whatever, And then you could collect MMR as they equilibrate to the point where your being overrated now outweighs them being underrated. You could probably also get a lot by partying with people way down in the trench where it can't really match you well so you stomp, or finding 2.5k buddies and giving them simple stuff to do so they play at least a 3k jugger or something. Idk it seems mostly trickery and grinding if you really care about it. But mine is like 600 lower than my solo so maybe I'm just making excuses. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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andyrau
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